Shall China deploy 041 AIP sub in Karachi to check Indian navy?

Alfa-Fighter said:

lol , when you supplied Nukes design to PAK, Libya got though PAK , are they sanctioned to Death ? In fact India allowed to buy Iran Oil by US went they hitting out every other company.


Well , Deploying Oil Rig is just the warning to Chinese telling that rules of game is changed. Now you sell further nuke, missile design to PAK, expect us same from our side and it will be on your border..

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Abingdonboy said:

So to "check" India you're willing to sell yourselves to the highest bidder? Pakistani members like to call Indians a lot of names on this site but none of them have ever stipulated having foreign powers stationed on their soil. I guess sovereignty, self respect and pride mean nothing to you?

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We are just talking about the possibility, the result had shown the deep faith Pakistanis have in China. We will ask for Pakistan permission if we really decide to station subs in Karachi. Pakistan is a independent country, she has the right to make the final decision.

Alfa-Fighter said:

lol , when you supplied Nukes design to PAK, Libya got though PAK , are they sanctioned to Death ? In fact India allowed to buy Iran Oil by US went they hitting out every other company.


Well , Deploying Oil Rig is just the warning to Chinese telling that rules of game is changed. Now you sell further nuke, missile design to PAK, expect us same from our side and it will be on your border..

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Pakistanis are smart enough to develop nuke on their own.

ChineseTiger1986 said:

One of the biggest priorities for our foreign diplomacy is to help Pakistan to rebuild its economy, so Pakistan will take the ride of China's new silk road to revitalize its economic structure.

By then, we can help Pakistan to build up a stronger navy with the nuclear subs and the AIP subs.

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you can help PAK and we will help Viets ..... PAK will have nuke Subs so does Viets will have Nuke Sub in South China sea.....

wanglaokan said:

We are just talking about the possibility, the result had shown the deep faith Pakistanis have in China. We will ask for Pakistan permission if we really decide to station subs in Karachi. Pakistan is a independent country, she has the right to make the final decision.


Pakistanis are smart enough to develop nuke on their own.

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Even PAK is allows China , China won't . Reason: Nuke Sub in PAK means India will post its own Nuke/ conventional SUB in Viet (South China sea)

PAK are smart enough ) so smart they gave Chinese Nuclear Bomb blue print to Libya for money and Libya surrender it to UN/ World.

Read history.. time and changed and India has changed.

Kaniska said:

You understood me wrong...I was not implicating for war...rather my point is that Pakistan has a chance to win the war when India was figting...Now the option is even closed...The option is closed does not mean India will win...But with more conservative estimate, India can defend itself properly...So the question is if also at any time war will happen, it will be initiated by Pakistan only....Because Pakisan has to gain the land of Kashmir...We are not desperate to win anyland from Pakistan...So why to do you think India will initiate it...As i mentioned earlier, our priorities and aspirations are different rather than fighting a useless war with Pakistan...

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If you look at Indian history with Pakistan, you took Kashmir forcibly when Maharajah said no to you, you interfered in East Pakistan, now you interfere in North Pakistan,and you say that Pakistan initiated wars, unless you listen and follow the truth, there exist the danger of another war, but you can stop by becoming truthful, stop harnessing Muslims in India, stop interfering, stop spinning maters because those may spin out of control.

asq said:

If you look at Indian history with Pakistan, you took Kashmir forcibly when Maharajah said no to you, you interfered in East Pakistan, now you interfere in North Pakistan,and you say that Pakistan initiated wars, unless you listen and follow the truth, there exist the danger of another war, but you can stop by becoming truthful, stop harnessing Muslims in India, stop interfering, stop spinning maters because those may spin out of control.

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For a moment, i buy our argument....We are bad and we occupied...so what dear...Bad things happens and there are pleny of example in this world...Many bad things happens to us too...Islamic invaders brutally tourtured Hindus and our histroy...That is also bad thing that does not mean, that i will keep on repeating the same thing that happened 500 years back and keep on fighting with Muslim nations....So bad thing happens, I admit even now, bad things are happening..But again, Kashmir is a collateral damage for Indian security and nationhood...The geographic location of Kashmir is very important for us...So we occupied...That does not mean, that if some UN or any nation ask us to vacate the land, we will simply handover it to any third entity.....This will be a too much of risk that India can afford..This could have only been possible if Pakistan is strong nation with global political and dolomatic clout around the world, But again in last 30 years, Pakistan is always in a self destructive mode, that has helped India to further consolidate his position with respect to Kashmir...

asq said:

If you look at Indian history with Pakistan, you took Kashmir forcibly when Maharajah said no to you, you interfered in East Pakistan, now you interfere in North Pakistan,and you say that Pakistan initiated wars, unless you listen and follow the truth, there exist the danger of another war, but you can stop by becoming truthful, stop harnessing Muslims in India, stop interfering, stop spinning maters because those may spin out of control.

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Check out what your ex airforce chief says ..who initiated war ?


China is being paid back in similar terms now . Pakistan is inconsequential in the bigger scheme. Subs will get neutralized by the planes that we have but the tit for tat policy being followed by India now will cost China more.

NALANDA said:

Check out what your ex airforce chief says ..who initiated war ?

China is being paid back in similar terms now . Pakistan is inconsequential in the bigger scheme. Subs will get neutralized by the planes that we have but the tit for tat policy being followed by India now will cost China more.

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His opinion is outdated, but Indian somehow are so intimidated by Pakistan that all Indian come on Pakistani forums,whereas their forums will not allow any Pakistani on it. facts avout war let me give uou one of yours about bangla war.,

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Alfa-Fighter said:

you can help PAK and we will help Viets ..... PAK will have nuke Subs so does Viets will have Nuke Sub in South China sea.....



Even PAK is allows China , China won't . Reason: Nuke Sub in PAK means India will post its own Nuke/ conventional SUB in Viet (South China sea)

PAK are smart enough ) so smart they gave Chinese Nuclear Bomb blue print to Libya for money and Libya surrender it to UN/ World.

Read history.. time and changed and India has changed.

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I'm not say SSBM, i'm talking about the conventional subs. have you ever read my post carefully?

asq said:

If you look at Indian history with Pakistan, you took Kashmir forcibly when Maharajah said no to you, you interfered in East Pakistan, now you interfere in North Pakistan,and you say that Pakistan initiated wars, unless you listen and follow the truth, there exist the danger of another war, but you can stop by becoming truthful, stop harnessing Muslims in India, stop interfering, stop spinning maters because those may spin out of control.

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The truth is only in the hands of few top brass sitting in the office, and the so called well known truth by the public are all lies. Indians are more easier to be cheated by Chinese.

wanglaokan said:

I'm not say SSBM, i'm talking about the conventional subs. have you ever read my post carefully?


The truth is only in the hands of few top brass sitting in the office, and the so called well known truth by the public are all lies. Indians are more easier to be cheated by Chinese.

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And you think that public is dumb and Chinese cheat, i beg to disagree, Chinese have achieved what they have, by hard work and not by cheating, and public can tell the difference between a lie and truth, but sometimes leaders by force force their opinions, nonetheless lies shall never last, only truth will prevail.

On a good will mission for a few days Yes; but on a permanent basis ‘NO’

I am sorry but I cannot agree to the long term deployment of any non-Pakistani warship, whether Chinese, Russian or US etc in Pakistani waters. We don’t want to start turning into a sidekick of China.

wanglaokan said:

I'm not say SSBM, i'm talking about the conventional subs. have you ever read my post carefully?


The truth is only in the hands of few top brass sitting in the office, and the so called well known truth by the public are all lies. Indians are more easier to be cheated by Chinese.

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Well ..... even its true for conventions subs also.....India can post its subs and ships in South China sea and give ASM to Vietnam,

During the early of this year, the Type 093 has patrolled in the Indian Ocean for 3 months without getting detected.

So we should even consider to deploy the Type 093B in the Indian Ocean.

niaz said:

On a good will mission for a few days Yes; but on a permanent basis ‘NO’

I am sorry but I cannot agree to the long term deployment of any non-Pakistani warship, whether Chinese, Russian or US etc in Pakistani waters. We don’t want to start turning into a sidekick of China.

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We are equal, you are not sidekick.

Alfa-Fighter said:

Well ..... even its true for conventions subs also.....India can post its subs and ships in South China sea and give ASM to Vietnam,

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You already didi that.

the problem is that whether India could cancel the apocalypse that always wrestling with China. you guys push aggressively in collision with China potential enemies and we are no sittin ducks. Pakistan is China's best ally and we will make sure you guys won't get yourself zealous against China this time. things happened in 1962 will not be allowed to happen again. India started to build 50 recon posts along the border, I won't take it as a positive move from Modi.

I want talk relationship improvement, but it just doesn't work.

in 1971 we got peg by Soviet. this time if you put your dirty fingers on Pakistan again, PLA promise you guys with a one way ticket.

wanglaokan said:

the problem is that whether India could cancel the apocalypse that always wrestling with China. you guys push aggressively in collision with China potential enemies and we are no sittin ducks. Pakistan is China's best ally and we will make sure you guys won't get yourself zealous against China this time. things happened in 1962 will not be allowed to happen again. India started to build 50 recon posts along the border, I won't take it as a positive move from Modi.

I want talk relationship improvement, but it just doesn't work.

in 1971 we got peg by Soviet. this time if you put your dirty fingers on Pakistan again, PLA promise you guys with a one way ticket.

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There was 1999 Kargil war ...... where Pakistan was embarrassed once again .

There was no soviets this time ...... where was China .

You chinese like to brag , it's embedded in you .

So moral of the lesson ----- Don't go out bragging if you can't back up it ..... otherwise you will have eggs in your face .

Funny thing is recently USA promised to give maritime security to India to protect itself from Chinese navy. So what does it mean ? Are the top 3 economies in the world going to be dragged into a conflict , cold war over a failed state and destabilize the global market ? How stupid do you think we are . LOL. Pfff. Don't feed the troll China . No matter how much sugarcoated hostility we have in our borders not a single bullet has been exchnaged between PLA and BSF while Pakistan is bleeding on Kashmir , both literally and economically to keep up the ammo supplies.

wanglaokan said:

the problem is that whether India could cancel the apocalypse that always wrestling with China. you guys push aggressively in collision with China potential enemies and we are no sittin ducks. Pakistan is China's best ally and we will make sure you guys won't get yourself zealous against China this time. things happened in 1962 will not be allowed to happen again. India started to build 50 recon posts along the border, I won't take it as a positive move from Modi.

I want talk relationship improvement, but it just doesn't work.

in 1971 we got peg by Soviet. this time if you put your dirty fingers on Pakistan again, PLA promise you guys with a one way ticket.

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China will never go into an active war with India . Your govt. won't write it down , and even if it does the UN, West and Russia will intervene to stop it immediately with diplomacy. Conflict between India and China will start destabilizing the global market and th world won't let that happen. As for Pakistan no one gives a shit about that failed state, not even UN , and it's high time China shouldn't either. We should concentrate more on BRICS. And the stupid China-India border tension is a sham , an excuse to increase both of our military arsenal .