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Cannot say much but the so called lost years of Jesus's youth are very much part of the fiction indeed. If you go by Ahmedi literature they believe he was amoungst Kashmiris (perhaps after his ministry in Galilee and Jerusalayeem). One of the famous English poet (i think John Keaton it was) had written about Jesus visiting England "back in the days". These beliefs are similar to those held by Mormons (Church of LDS) that ancient hebrews fled to modern day America and started dwelling amoung locals, with whom they later fought battles. Serious historians know that it is a farce. There is no evidence of hebrews in NA or Jesus being in Northern India at any time.

So the thing is , until these claims are backed by solid evidence, its free for all sort of thing.

These are not "so called lost years" but reality. He did move out "east" of holy land. If you know your geopraghy you should know that neither England nor America or Europe per say, happen to be in that direction from holy lands.
 
Glad to see media promoting something good, not something like qandeel baloch, tahir etc .

Media had cashed Qandeel even her death. May God rest her soul in peace.

She was doing what actresses are doing on big screen and what our famous models are doing for Magz and ramp so what was wrong what qandeel was doing?

Tahir Shah at least had original product unlike those so called rock stars or current day who are doing only remixes

Hain? mara ham to Islamabad mein 100 ka cutting plus shave karwaya tha dukaan sey AC wala 150 laita hay
khochi ham ko lagta Sirf tum zananiyo ka problem hay mehnga nayi :D

:lol: lantai bottt hum mardooon ka saloon ki baat kar raha tha
 
These are not "so called lost years" but reality. He did move out "east" of holy land. If you know your geopraghy you should know that neither England nor America or Europe per say, happen to be in that direction from holy lands.

I understand that in books of the New Testament (Mark, Matthew, Luke, John) there is a gap in the narrations of Jesus's life. We read about him being raised in Galilee and some stories of his childhood. The next time we hear of him is when has grown up. I think its when he appears in a wedding ceremony and turns water into wine (i can be wrong here). Anyways the missing account of those years has fueled immense speculation. There come in the legends to fill this gap. Be it Jesus visting Hindukush, amoungst the Kashmiris or being a disciple of Buddha(yes I have heard that as well). Again, until these claims are backed by reasonably solid proof, your guess is as good as mine. I can say that he never left Palestine and just was not very vocal.
 
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Have you bothered reading and understanding? Its not rocket science really, Jews, the follower of the religion called Judaism came from the southern Kingdom of Judah, however, the northerners, the ten lost tribes, were a separate entity, and got nothing to do with Judaism. You lot deliberately lie and present Jews as race, rather followers of a religion. Bani Israel is the race, not Jews. Bottom line is, when the original Israel , which was NOT Jewish, was enemy of Judah (home of Jews), why on earth the present country who called itself home of Jews, named itself as Israel. The term Israel was exclusively used for the northern Kingdom.
It seems someone has carried on the tradition of past and someone just forgotten about it or perhaps was alien to the traditions to begin with.
My friend it's you who don't understand,i will tell you again,the people of the kingdom of israel(the northern) assimilated into the rest of the people of Israel in Judea and Diaspora!!!There is no 10 lost tribe!!!there is a myth about the 10 lost tribe!!!In the northern kingdom of Israel were not even ten tribes, there were nine!!!!Kingdom of Israel and Kingdom of Judea were not enemies, despite their relationship had ups and downs!!!!!
Strangers gave us the title of "Jews",Like the ancient Egyptians called us "Hebrews"
We always called ourselves "Israel","Jewish/jews" does not come from "Judaism" "Jews" comes from "Judean" We adopted the title of Jews in the Diaspora,why?because Judah is the dominant tribe, the rest of the tribes assimilated into the tribe of Judah,So we can use the title "Jews" in the name of the tribe of Judah, which includes all tribes,But we still use the term "Israel" as "the people of israel" "Am Yisrael",we always use it,there is no "jews" in the bible,There is no "jews" in the kingdom of judea/judah because nobody give us this title yet!!!!!!.
There is no "judaism" in the bible because we called our religion "torat israel" ""The Torah of Israel""
You can't invent bullshit to support your ideas!!!!
 
Media had cashed Qandeel even her death. May God rest her soul in peace.

She was doing what actresses are doing on big screen and what our famous models are doing for Magz and ramp so what was wrong what qandeel was doing?

Tahir Shah at least had original product unlike those so called rock stars or current day who are doing only remixes



:lol: lantai bottt hum mardooon ka saloon ki baat kar raha tha
Haan wo 400 leta hay theek farmaya
 
My friend it's you who don't understand,i will tell you again,the people of the kingdom of israel(the northern) assimilated into the rest of the people of Israel in Judea and Diaspora!!!There is no 10 lost tribe!!!there is a myth about the 10 lost tribe!!!In the northern kingdom of Israel were not even ten tribes, there were nine!!!!Kingdom of Israel and Kingdom of Judea were not enemies, despite their relationship had ups and downs!!!!!
Strangers gave us the title of "Jews",Like the ancient Egyptians called us "Hebrews"
We always called ourselves "Israel","Jewish/jews" does not come from "Judaism" "Jews" comes from "Judean" We adopted the title of Jews in the Diaspora,why?because Judah is the dominant tribe, the rest of the tribes assimilated into the tribe of Judah,So we can use the title "Jews" in the name of the tribe of Judah, which includes all tribes,But we still use the term "Israel" as "the people of israel" "Am Yisrael",we always use it,there is no "jews" in the bible,There is no "jews" in the kingdom of judea/judah because nobody give us this title yet!!!!!!.
There is no "judaism" in the bible because we called our religion "torat israel" ""The Torah of Israel""
You can't invent bullshit to support your ideas!!!!

So the whole world talk about 10 tribes, Christianity believe their return would mark the beginning of Armageddon, the "Jews" believe their return would be classed as their final redemption and here you are talking absolute BS.


The Afghans entertain strong prejudices against the Jewish nation, which would at least show that they have no desire to claim – without just cause – a descent from them. [Sir Alexander Burnes, Travels into Bokhara, Vol. 2:139-141.]
Burnes was again in 1837 sent as the first British Envoy to the Court of Kabul. For some time he was the guest of King Dost Mohammad Khan. He questioned the King about the descent of the Afghans from the Israelites. The King replied that "his people had no doubt of that, though they repudiated the idea of being Jews.



Thomas Ledlie wrote an article in the Calcutta Review, which he subsequently elaborated and published in two volumes. He expressed his views on the subject very clearly: "The Europeans always confuse things, when they consider the fact that the Afghans call themselves Bani Israel and yet reject their Jewish descent. Indeed, the Afghans discard the very idea of any descent from the Jews. They, however, yet claim themselves to be of Bani Israel." [Thomas Ledlie, More Ledlian, Calcutta Review, January, 1898]
Ledlie goes on to explain: "Israelites, or the Ten Tribes, to whom the term Israel was applied – after their separation from the House of David, and the tribe of Judah, which tribe retained the name of Judah and had a distinct history ever after. These last alone are called Jews and are distinguished from the Bani Israel as much in the East as in the West." [Ibid., 7]

Shalva Weil, anthropologist and senior researcher at the Hebrew University of Jerusalemsaid "Of all the groups, there is more convincing evidence about the Pathans than anybody else, but the Pathans are the ones who would reject Israel most ferociously. That is the sweet irony"


http://www.bibleinterp.com/articles/tribes358016.shtml


The story of the ten tribes as the bible tells it is pretty basic: After the death of King Solomon and under the rule of his incompetent son Rehoboam (r. c. 930– c.915 BCE), the Kingdom of Israel split into two. In south, two of the tribes that were of Jacob’s offspring, Judah and Benjamin, formed the kingdom of Judah around the capital in Jerusalem. In the north, the other ten created the kingdom of Israel and built a new capital in Samaria. In 721 BCE, the Assyrian king (actually Sargon II, who reigned 722 – 705 BCE, though the Bible says it was Shalmaneser V [r. 727 to 722 BCE])—sacked the city and destroyed the kingdom. The ten tribes went into exile. Only Judah and Benjamin remained to tell the story. A little over a century later, Judah was also destroyed by the Babylonians, and went to its own exilic period captivity. But miraculously these exiles returned to Jerusalem from “the rivers of Babylon,” and rebuilt their temple when Persian emperor Cyrus allowed them to do so. This turn of events was in accordance with the prophecies of the great prophets Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel, who promised return to Jerusalem. But the ten tribes never came back. They were lost, seemingly without a trace.


For most Jews the return of the ten tribes meant final redemption. For most Christians it was a sign of the apocalypse



To say that Isreal and Judah were not enemies is like stamping yourself to be a complete idiot. The house of Daud (David) split because of the inter tribal rivalry. The inter tribal animosity has always been there. This is something you wont understand because you are a jew, a khazar jew, you lost your tribal ways but in reality you were never part of it. You aint Bani Israel. Pakthoon even today have the same inter tribal rivalry and vengeance. You even dont dress up or look like the Bani Isreal of ancient. Where is your turban gone dude and how the turban got replaced by that cowboy hat??

And always remember, like most of the humanity, the Hebrews, their ancestors, were originally a tribe of Indus.


You my friend, with all due respect, is talking from behind.
 
So the whole world talk about 10 tribes, Christianity believe their return would mark the beginning of Armageddon, the "Jews" believe their return would be classed as their final redemption and here you are talking absolute BS.
Again you rape the reality and brings opinions of shady people who were wrong to "prove" your ideas.
The Ten Lost Tribes is a myth from the Mishnah and Talmud!
The whole world has adopted many things from Jews,even Armageddon is a corruption of Jewish prophecy that there will be war at Har Megiddo (Mount Megiddo),Rabbinic Judaism in the Diaspora developed the myth of the return of the ten lost tribes at the salvation,and again,dividing the tribes by the kingdoms:
United kingdom of israel
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1.)Reuven
2.)Shimon
3.)Yehuda(the leader)
4.)Dan
5.)Naftali
6.)Gad
7.)Asher
8.)Isaschar
9.)Zvulun
10.)Binyamin
11.)Menashe
12.)Efraim

Northern kingdom of israel
------------------------------------
1.)Reuven
2.)Dan
3.)Naftali
4.)Gad
5.)Asher
6.)Isaschar
7.)Zvulun
8.)menashe
9.)efraim(the leader)

Kingdom of judah/judea
---------------------------------
1.)Yehuda(the leader)
2.)Shimon
3.)Binyamin

*The tribe of Levi is distributed among all the tribes
Do you see 10 tribes of israel????do you know math???????

The Afghans entertain strong prejudices against the Jewish nation, which would at least show that they have no desire to claim – without just cause – a descent from them. [Sir Alexander Burnes, Travels into Bokhara, Vol. 2:139-141.]
Burnes was again in 1837 sent as the first British Envoy to the Court of Kabul. For some time he was the guest of King Dost Mohammad Khan. He questioned the King about the descent of the Afghans from the Israelites. The King replied that "his people had no doubt of that, though they repudiated the idea of being Jews.

Thomas Ledlie wrote an article in the Calcutta Review, which he subsequently elaborated and published in two volumes. He expressed his views on the subject very clearly: "The Europeans always confuse things, when they consider the fact that the Afghans call themselves Bani Israel and yet reject their Jewish descent. Indeed, the Afghans discard the very idea of any descent from the Jews. They, however, yet claim themselves to be of Bani Israel." [Thomas Ledlie, More Ledlian, Calcutta Review, January, 1898]
Ledlie goes on to explain: "Israelites, or the Ten Tribes, to whom the term Israel was applied – after their separation from the House of David, and the tribe of Judah, which tribe retained the name of Judah and had a distinct history ever after. These last alone are called Jews and are distinguished from the Bani Israel as much in the East as in the West." [Ibid., 7]

Shalva Weil, anthropologist and senior researcher at the Hebrew University of Jerusalemsaid "Of all the groups, there is more convincing evidence about the Pathans than anybody else, but the Pathans are the ones who would reject Israel most ferociously. That is the sweet irony"
There are people who consider groups or nations to the descendants of the children of Israel, in Japan, China, India, Afghanistan, Pakistan, the Caucasus, Iran, Iraq, Australia, Turkey, Kenya, Uganda, Nigeria, Tanzania, Canada, USA, Brazil, Peru, Bolivia , Asian, Native American, black, Aboriginal people.
So what? It means that they are right?
Some groups / nations / people think like that because all kinds of discovers and researchers told them that.
Some because missionaries.
There are many reasons.
There are also those who adopted Jewish practices, which did not exist at all during the period of Israel and Judah, but only 1,000 years later, where it came from ??
Various researchers have also decided that we, "Mountain Jews", are part of the ten lost tribes, because they did not know we lived in the mountains in the Caucasus, so they thought we were lost, we told them that our path is:
Israel-Judea-Babylon-Persia-Caucasus-israel
They made genetic testing, archaeological and historical investigation
And finally discovered that we were right, and if we get married, we have to do genetic testing, because we are all from the same ancestor Israeli mother, and that can create problems for the baby, like my parents did for example.
For Pashtuns, maybe they were Jews who converted to Islam, I don't know if there is a connection between them to the Jews of Afghanistan,maybe..., they have some Talmudic traditions, whether they are from the kingdom of Israel, how they maintain later traditions?

The story of the ten tribes as the bible tells it is pretty basic: After the death of King Solomon and under the rule of his incompetent son Rehoboam (r. c. 930– c.915 BCE), the Kingdom of Israel split into two. In south, two of the tribes that were of Jacob’s offspring, Judah and Benjamin, formed the kingdom of Judah around the capital in Jerusalem. In the north, the other ten created the kingdom of Israel and built a new capital in Samaria. In 721 BCE, the Assyrian king (actually Sargon II, who reigned 722 – 705 BCE, though the Bible says it was Shalmaneser V [r. 727 to 722 BCE])—sacked the city and destroyed the kingdom. The ten tribes went into exile. Only Judah and Benjamin remained to tell the story. A little over a century later, Judah was also destroyed by the Babylonians, and went to its own exilic period captivity. But miraculously these exiles returned to Jerusalem from “the rivers of Babylon,” and rebuilt their temple when Persian emperor Cyrus allowed them to do so. This turn of events was in accordance with the prophecies of the great prophets Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel, who promised return to Jerusalem. But the ten tribes never came back. They were lost, seemingly without a trace.
The source you brought is inaccurate,as i said before,3 tribe in judah,9 tribes in israel.

Another inaccurate is:
Shalmaneser conquered the rest of the kingdom of Israel apart from Samaria(shomron)
Meanwhile Sargon replaced him and he is the one who conquered samaria(shomron).
*according to the bible(the hebrew one)

Another inaccurate is:
"The ten tribes went into exile" "But the ten tribes never came back. They were lost, seemingly without a trace."
In the kingdom of israel(the northern)there were 350,000 people,the assyrians exciled 40,000 by two waves
13,000&27,000 elites(citizens) and soldiers to Babylon, Nineveh and other cities,so atleast 300,00 people stayed in their land.Moreover, immediately after the destruction, the people of the Kingdom of Israel made a pilgrimage to Jerusalem(capital of judah) to celebrate the Passover.
Hezekiah king of Judah called for Israeli residents to reunite with their brethren, and they heard his call and agreed.
Hezekiah then annexed to his kingdom territories from Israel.
The population of the kingdom of Judah grew 5 times because assimilation of Israelis in Judea.
The population of Jerusalem has grown 10 times until it had a majority of Israelis.
When the Babylonians deported a few tens of thousands of people from Judah to Babylon, they were reunited with some of the "Assyrian exile". Some of those exiled to Assyria also returned together with the Judean exiles to Jerusalem, following Cyrus declaration.
Some chose not to take part in the "return to Zion"(shivat zion), and remained in exile.
They(not all of them) returned to the land of Israel/state of israel following the geopolitical changes and the modern "return to zion"(shivat zion) and the zionism.
From around 700-600 BCE there were no more tribes,they were all mixed!!!!!
There were no 10 tribes!! there were no lost tribes!!!
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For most Jews the return of the ten tribes meant final redemption. For most Christians it was a sign of the apocalypse
It is a myth,a legend,some kind of tradition,mainly from the talmudic era,by orthodox rabbis.
Christianity is a copy,past and change of judaism.
To say that Isreal and Judah were not enemies is like stamping yourself to be a complete idiot.
In the first about 50 years atfer the split israel and judah found themselves in wars between them or more correctly
the house of David against the house of Ephraim, Jeroboam against Rehoboam,because Jeroboam rebelled against Rehoboam.
Then the house of omri took the royalty,put an end to rebellion and made peace with Judah.
Since then they were married to each other, fought together against their enemies, etc.
The house of Daud (David) split because of the inter tribal rivalry. The inter tribal animosity has always been there.
Yes, there was an inter tribal rivalry much before the kingdom era(it is very logical btw)
No, it is not why the united kingdom of Israel split.
The kingdom split because of the high taxes policy of Rehoboam who didn't listen to his own people(the advisors) to low the taxes,because he wanted to show that he is a strong king.
This is something you wont understand because you are a jew, a khazar jew, you lost your tribal ways but in reality you were never part of it.
As i said my "community" made genetic tests because we all from the same ancient israel mom,my genes are levantines,my bones are the same as ancient bones that found in israel,they also close(Only one mutation is different) to the Phoenicians.
The khazar theory invented,developed,spread and used by anti-semites,you are probably one of them!
You aint Bani Israel.
you probably said that and it is common with muslims/arabs in the last 100 years to say that, because the bnei(bani)israel are mentioned in the quran as the people of allah who drove them out of egypt to the promise land,the land of israel,and since you can't denied the quran,you trying to deny my nation and our connection to our land.
You can talk till tomorrow,it won't help you,
Here some bani(bunny) israel for you:bunny::bunny::bunny:

Pakthoon even today have the same inter tribal rivalry and vengeance.
The same as billions of people around the world
You even dont dress up or look like the Bani Isreal of ancient. Where is your turban gone dude and how the turban got replaced by that cowboy hat??
First how you know my clothes,are you hiding in my closet? please,get out of the closet!:rofl::rofl::rofl:
and cowboy hat??o_Oo_Oo_O good you didn't said sombrero:rofl::rofl:ay yay yay!!!!:guns:

And always remember, like most of the humanity, the Hebrews, their ancestors, were originally a tribe of Indus.
No no,you are from indus tribe who conquered by arabs who changed your religion and more
:raise::raise::raise::raise:
Yes what is your question?
:raise:where is your original religion???
Please don't answer i'm out:closed:
 
He looks like a taller version of my buddy from Murree seriously i dont get it why is he so famous?
Because he is a chai-wala who is being compared aesthetically to another certain chai-wala......go to Chitral their will be enough jawans better looking than this merely decent looking chap.Kudos

Brother thanks for the message. To be frank I do not know so deeply about the particularities of Pastun sub tribes. Yes there are conjectures that some of them might have semitic ancestory. Yet others say that Pastun are of Indo European stock and are mentioned in the historical text from the Achaemenid era as being a people from modern day Afghanistan. At some point this area was under the influence of Buddhism (Bamyan statues). So Buddhism might also have influenced the Pashtun identity?

As far as Semitic link is concerned, my own opinion is that this is just a product of romanticization. Ancient semitic people were more likely to have tanned skin and facial features resembling those from ancient Mesopotamia. After all the ancestor of all Beni Ishaq and Beni Ishmael was the Patriarch Abraham who himself migrated out of Mesopotamia. In the case of Pastuns, the dominant features are closer to those of Indo europeans e.g. Iranian people. But definitely this needs to be studied scientifically. And Allah knows the best.

All the best.
Pashtuns and Semites tend to have the same Roman/Hawkish nose otherwise their is very little similarity.
 
Because he is a chai-wala who is being compared aesthetically to another certain chai-wala......go to Chitral their will be enough jawans better looking than this merely decent looking chap.Kudos


Pashtuns and Semites tend to have the same Roman/Hawkish nose otherwise their is very little similarity.

Yes, but isn't that particular to just few subtribes, for instance Afridis.
 
Yes, but isn't that particular to just few subtribes, for instance Afridis.
Majority of Pashtuns have roman noses, sure their are plenty with straight noses like chai-wala but the majority have hawk like features whereas chai-wala has features of someone from Balkans.Kudos
 
The chai wala said he wont be working in movies , too bad girls have to find him in his dhabba only.
 
The chai wala said he wont be working in movies , too bad girls have to find him in his dhabba only.
He seems to be a very reserved and shy chap who looks like a fish out of water in front of the camera.
 
Because he is a chai-wala who is being compared aesthetically to another certain chai-wala......go to Chitral their will be enough jawans better looking than this merely decent looking chap.Kudos


Pashtuns and Semites tend to have the same Roman/Hawkish nose otherwise their is very little similarity.
Iranians and Tajiks, as well as Balochs, have also noses similar to Pashtuns

Majority of Pashtuns have roman noses, sure their are plenty with straight noses like chai-wala but the majority have hawk like features whereas chai-wala has features of someone from Balkans.Kudos
Actually very few Pashtuns have noses like Bacha Khan............our (as well as of Iranians) noses are not small and thin like Europeans but also not exaggeratedly big .......Kashmiris also have characteristically very long and big noses.

Because he is a chai-wala who is being compared aesthetically to another certain chai-wala......go to Chitral their will be enough jawans better looking than this merely decent looking chap.Kudos
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Chitrali men are very short-stature people , extremely short.............good looking people though
 
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