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How will Nasr's Neutron warhead neutralize advancing enemy columns...

Keep living in the Indian dream... you guys really think too highly or yourself when your lot is literally treated as shit abroad... and things are even worse in your country with massive farmers suicides and rapes? do you think your country now is any better nuked? nah...

Just focus on making it better in your own country... than thinking about stuff too calculation intensive for your binary neuroned brain...


ALL HAIL MARKUSSSSSSSS...

Ya we can hire you as an advisor... lol i think you forgot how your country did in WW2... friggin numbnut...

actually good enough to get an economy magnitudes larger than yours amigo. We did enough to limit damage on our country. The war was lost after weeks. No need to keep fighting when the only result is the destruction of your culture and buildings.

But to bring things in relation, do you have actual numbers how much your budget is wasted in military and how much in education?

Your post shows exactly whats wrong about your way of thinking. I give a shit about WW II. I want my country to invest more into the restauration in our old artifacts and building up more capacity in alternative energy.

We live in europe of the 21st century. We dont need nuclear weapons.
 
actually good enough to get an economy magnitudes larger than yours amigo. We did enough to limit damage on our country. The war was lost after weeks. No need to keep fighting when the only result is the destruction of your culture and buildings.

But to bring things in relation, do you have actual numbers how much your budget is wasted in military and how much in education?

Your post shows exactly whats wrong about your way of thinking. I give a shit about WW II. I want my country to invest more into the restauration in our old artifacts and building up more capacity in alternative energy.

We live in europe of the 21st century. We dont need nuclear weapons.

Said many people in the history of humankind... read history mate...

As far as your economy is concerned i never doubted it... it's definitely up there...

I do agree about the education part mate... a lot is wasted on military but there is also a positive side to it other than defense... its relations with the Arabs... that also earns us a lot... and with other countries of course...

Needless to say i believe their wouldn't even be a fraction of technical know how compared to the nuclear tech. we have in case we didn't aspire for nuclear weapons so that aspect too has helped...

Call it whatever but the steps we've taken in weapons tech. have earned us a base of technical human resources... which will by all means help the country in the long run... hence i do not see this in a bad light... we need this because people here will not lift their finger unless absolutely necessary because of beliefs of afterlife and what not...

I don't think i explained fully but in case you don't get my post please ask...

First of all i highly doubt Pakistan does posses such high tech to develop neutron bomb secondly nuclear weapon in todays world is useless.
Keep doubting... but somebody somewhere is pissing in their dhoti...
 
i highly doubt
Yup,
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Keep doubting.
Well India is 8 times bigger than Pakistan thats why we have more chance of survival and also you don't have second strike capability that India has...so NASR is best the most foolish choice...
Hi,
The saying goes " the bigger they are, the harder they fall" after a nuclear trade off, India would have no fertile land to grow crops, most infrastructure destroyed, industries obliterated, and with no way to feed it's already ginormous population, which a chunk of survives, it would be a slow and painful cruise to her demise.
rather we don't want any terrorist activities support from across the border.
Hi,
It's India which has boasted about using proxies in Pakistan. No need for the holier than thou attitude.
 
Hi,
The saying goes " the bigger they are, the harder they fall" after a nuclear trade off, India would have no fertile land to grow crops, most infrastructure destroyed, industries obliterated, and with no way to feed it's already ginormous population, which a chunk of survives, it would be a slow and painful cruise to her demise.
Agree to that,
Not only India wilk suffer but the whole world as their will be nuclear winter on the globe..but if Pakistan does not stop supporting terrorist activities in India it will led to an inevitable nuclear war
 
Likewise, India should stop support of terror activities and separatists in Pakistan. Thread is being derailed.
And since a chunk of world population would be gone less food would be needed to actually supplement the remaining population. Any who, nuclear winter is just in theory, it was started by the KGB as a
propaganda. @Awesome Indian
 
How will Nasr's Neutron warhead neutralize advancing enemy columns...

Nasr can and will neutralize advancing enemy columns...

But what (retaliation) AFTER the Nasr attack from the enemy?
This is the million $ question.

In Pakistan there is a resolve that if it comes to india and Pakistan see itself losing it will use it's nukes. No one in pakistan cares what happen in the end and whether pakistan lives or finishes but people knows that india will be destroyed and thrashed to a point where it could never rise again. Pakistan might not exist after that but neither will india, after pakistani response india will become an open country free for all, Chinese, Nepalese, Srilankans, Bdshis, Assamese, Nagalanders, etc all will take their lands. Many European nations will occupy parts of India (just like in the past) for experimental purposes.

In short Pakistan with weak economy has nothing much to loose.
 
LOL

Pakistan can actually discourage India’s Cold Start doctrine in two ways: by giving up its covert sub-conventional operations against India, or by formulating a prudent strategy to counter India’s proactive tactics. As has been argued by Rodney Jones, Pakistan need not resort to the nuclear option to counter India’s Cold Start doctrine since the results of the Azm-e-Nau III military exercises held in 2009-10 suggest that its conventional defences alone are fully capable of resisting a shallow penetration as envisaged by the Cold Start doctrine. 1

Secondly, does Pakistan’s development of battlefield nuclear weapons erode India’s no-first-use (NFU) policy? It is a contentious idea that the use of TNWs will not escalate into a full fledged nuclear war. It is irrelevant whether a target has been hit by a strategic or tactical weapon. A nuclear attack is a nuclear attack. To quote Air Chief Marshal P. V. Naik, “Tactical or strategic, it (NASR) is a nuclear weapon. Our response would be absolutely violent, if it is used, as per our existing policy. So, it's not a game-changer.” What this essentially means is that in the event India faces a nuclear attack, New Delhi will be left with no other choice but to use nuclear weapons in the form of a massive retaliation. In that case it makes little sense whether a strategic or tactical nuclear weapon or a long range or short range weapon is used, since the general response would be to carry out a punitive attack on the adversary.

There is no universal definition of TNWs and hence it is difficult to categorize them. They cannot be defined either by their range or yield. Notwithstanding their battlefield utility, TNWs can lead to uncontrolled escalation given their inherent tendency to obscure the decision-making process thus creating confusion and leading local commanders with pre-delegated authority to use them. Further, there is a risk that they could be grabbed by terrorist groups.

Although by definition TNWs are meant for employment against counterforce targets, they can also be potentially used for countervalue strikes. The moment a nuclear weapon whether tactical or strategic is used the deterrent factor suffers a failure. Thus, Pakistan’s nuclear deterrence against India will fail if it launches TNWs. Moreover, given the geographical proximity with India any detonation of TNWs by Pakistan will have radiation fallouts on the territories of both countries. Pakistan could thus find itself in a situation where it would be self-deterred. Considering the pros and cons of TNWs like NASR, it does not pose any advantage to Pakistan; it only creates disadvantages.

Its quite evident that you and many in your armed forces have genuine concerns about NASR. Between the lines, this missile system has already won the psychological battle. Deny this as much as you want.

Check mate ;)

@Dazzler how effective NASR will be with Conventional Warhead ?? against a Armored column

Against forward columns, quite effective I would say, even with a conventional blast or fragmented type warhead, and it has several types of them.
 
Against forward columns, quite effective I would say, even with a conventional blast or fragmented type warhead, and it has several types of them.

Thanks , another question if you allow, as we always see NASR as fitted in a Multi-launch Truck .. so does this mean we can Launch those 4 NASR's back to back like MLRS Rockets ?
 
Thanks , another question if you allow, as we always see NASR as fitted in a Multi-launch Truck .. so does this mean we can Launch those 4 NASR's back to back like MLRS Rockets ?

Yes, it is based on the concept of an MLRS. Salvo firing in a quick succession. The difference being that NASR is a short range missile with guidance and flight control module that's makes it hard to intercept. Not to mention, short range leaves no reaction time for air defenses to stop it anyway.
 
Likewise, India should stop support of terror activities and separatists in Pakistan. Thread is being derailed.
And since a chunk of world population would be gone less food would be needed to actually supplement the remaining population. Any who, nuclear winter is just in theory, it was started by the KGB as a
propaganda. @Awesome Indian

India-Pakistan peace would happen only through talks and a peaceful solution of Kashmir shoukd be found
And nuclear winter theory is real read this report
http://climate.envsci.rutgers.edu/pdf/RobockToonSciAmJan2010.pdf
 
Yes, it is based on the concept of an MLRS. Salvo firing in a quick succession. The difference being that NASR is a short range missile with guidance and flight control module that's makes it hard to intercept. Not to mention, short range leaves no reaction time for air defenses to stop it anyway.

Oh damn, you know I always have a little doubt about that, how rapidly we can fire all four warheads shown in Launcher .. but as you , this make NARS is one hell of a System , even with a Conventional Warheads, 4 Ballistic Missiles with guidance systems , can unleash hell on enemy Marching Ground forces .. Wonderful and thanks for the Answer :)
 
Enjoy...and have a positive discussion


And u have found this video by @safraiz today.

Since Pakistan plans use the neutron bomb on advancing armor column.

And a amour column advances in the enemy territory, so Pakistan will be nuking its own territory.

How many thousand year will it, take for that part of Pakistan to become habitable again?

Secondly

Questionable effectiveness in modern anti-tank role[edit]
See also: Centurion Tank § Nuclear tests, Object 279, and Neutron transport

The neutron cross section and absorption probability in barns of the two natural boron isotopes found in nature (top curve is for 10B and bottom curve for 11B. As neutron energy increases to 14 MeV, the absorption effectiveness, in general, decreases. Thus, for boron-containing armor to be effective, fast neutrons must first be slowed by another element by neutron scattering.

The questionable effectiveness of ER weapons against modern tanks is cited as one of the main reasons that these weapons are no longer fielded or stockpiled. With the increase in average tank armor thickness since the first ER weapons were fielded, tank armor protection approaches the level where tank crews are now almost fully protected from radiation effects. Thus, for an ER weapon to incapacitate a modern tank crew through irradiation, the weapon must now be detonated at such a close proximity to the tank that the nuclear explosion's blast would now be equally effective at incapacitating it and its crew.[54] However this assertion was regarded as dubious in a reply in 1986[55] by a member of the Royal Military College of Science as neutron radiation from a 1 kiloton neutron bomb would incapacitate the crew of a tank with a protection factorof 35 out to a range of 280 meters, but the incapacitating blast range, depending on the exact weight of the tank, is much less, from 70 to 130 meters. However although the author did note that effective neutron absorbers and neutron poisons such as boron carbide can be incorporated into conventional armor and strap on neutron moderating hydrogenous material (hydrogen atom containing substances), such as explosivereactive armor, can both increase the protection factor, the author holds that in practice combined withneutron scattering, the actual average total tank area protection factor is rarely higher than 15.5 to 35.[56]According to the Federation of American Scientists, the neutron protection factor of a "tank" can be as low as 2,[2] without qualifying whether the statement implies a light tank, medium tank, or main battle tank.

A composite high density concrete, or alternatively, a laminated Graded Z shield, 24 units thick of which 16 units are iron and 8 units are polyethylene containing boron (BPE), and additional mass behind it to attenuate neutron capture gamma rays is more effective than just 24 units of pure iron or BPE alone, due to the advantages of both iron and BPE in combination. Iron is effective in slowing down/scattering high-energy neutrons in the 14-MeV energy range and attenuating gamma rays, while the hydrogen in polyethylene is effective in slowing down these now slower fast neutrons in the few MeV range, and boron 10 has a high absorption cross section for thermal neutrons and a low production yield of gamma rays when it absorbs a neutron.[57][58][59][60] The Soviet T72 tank, in response to the neutron bomb threat, is cited as having fitted a boronated,[61] polyethylene liner, which has had its neutron shielding properties simulated.[52][62]


The radiation weighting factor for neutrons of various energy has been revised over time and certain agencies have different weighting factors, however despite the variation amongst the agencies, from the graph, for a given energy, Afusion neutron (14.1 MeV) although more energetic, is less biologically harmful as rated in Sieverts, than a fission generated thermal neutron or a fusion neutron slowed to that energy, ~0.8 MeV.
However, some tank armor material contains depleted uranium (DU), common in the US's M1A1 Abrams tank, which "incorporates steel-encased depleted uranium armour",[63] a substance that will fast fission when it captures a fast, fusion-generated neutron, and thus on fissioning will produce fission neutrons and fission productsembedded within the armor, products which emit among other things, penetrating gamma rays. Although the neutrons emitted by the neutron bomb may not penetrate to the tank crew in lethal quantities, the fast fission of DU within the armor could still ensure a lethal environment for the crew and maintenance personnel by fission neutron and gamma ray exposure,[64] largely depending on the exact thickness and elemental composition of the armor—information usually hard to attain. Despite this, Ducrete—which has an elemental composition similar to, but not identical to the ceramic 2nd generation heavy metal Chobham armor of the Abrams tank—is an effective radiation shield, to both fission neutrons and gamma rays due to it being a graded Z material.[65][66] Uranium being about twice as dense as lead is thus nearly twice as effective at shielding gamma ray radiation per unit thickness.[67]
we r to use a neutron warhead not an atomic warhead. And whether its in our territory or not why do u care?

This video in the end say's that Nasr basically contain a Neutron bomb. that's why it emit Neutrons only. so the area where Nasr is used can be utilized by human's after sometime (don't know how much ) by human's. so it mean's Pakistan can Use Nasr on it's own soil against Indian forces.... Seems Logical

@DESERT FIGHTER , @Zarvan , @Imran Khan .. Your thoughts sir
yes thats the beauty of neutron bombs. the area doesnt get infected nor the buildings only humans r effected. After sometimes the area can be inhabited again. So even if we use it on lahore, Sialkot or narowal, kasur etc. They can be rehabilitated after some time. But civilians have to be out of the targeted city entirely before launch.
 
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