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[Aepsilons]

chinese everywhere

ada lebih dari 1 billion. benar-benar!

 

[Nike]

ada lebih dari 1 billion. benar-benar!

correction more than 1,4 billion precisely.

Lomba PBB BersenjataPrajurit TNI AD berbaris sambil membawa senjata saat mengikuti Lomba peraturan baris berbaris (PBB) Bersenjata di Markas Kodam IV Diponegoro, di Semarang, Jateng, Rabu (1/10). Lomba yang digelar dalam rangka HUT ke-69 TNI dan HUT ke-64 Kodam IV Diponegoro itu diikuti 24 tim dari berbagai satuan, dinas, dan jawatan dijajaran Kodam IV Diponegoro. (ANTARA FOTO/R. Rekotomo)

Lomba PBB BersenjataPrajurit TNI dari Korps Wanita Angkatan Darat (Kowad) berbaris sambil membawa senjata saat mengikuti Lomba peraturan baris berbaris (PBB) Bersenjata di Markas Kodam IV Diponegoro, di Semarang, Jateng, Rabu (1/10). Lomba yang digelar dalam rangka HUT ke-69 TNI dan HUT ke-64 Kodam IV Diponegoro itu diikuti 24 tim dari berbagai satuan, dinas, dan jawatan dijajaran Kodam IV Diponegoro. (ANTARA FOTO/R. Rekotomo)

 

[MarveL]

ada lebih dari 1 billion. benar-benar!

はい、あなたは正しい兄弟日本人

 

[Nike]

Changbaisan, PLAN LPD with KRI Sultan Hasanudin Sigma class corvette

 

[Genesis]

Forget about the Americans. They do what they do in the Middle East, Europe, Africa because that's what they believe is important to their strategic interests. But for us Japanese and you Chinese, we have our own expansionist designs in Southeast Asia; be it production facilities, banking integration, to natural resource trade. The point is, hegemonistic actions and rhetoric is not going to win the confidence of ASEAN member states.

I feel 20 type 055, 12 x 052D, dozens of nuke subs, to go with four carriers by 2025 might. If not these are built to change minds, or change the people who makes them.

Precisely, since we're so close , geographically, it doesnt help to keep negative views on each other.

I was talking about trade, dispute our, "animosity" we still trade like never before.

I hope so.

...........

 

[Aepsilons]

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Changbaisan, PLAN LPD with KRI Sultan Hasanudin Sigma class corvette

Beautiful cooperative platform !

I feel 20 type 055, 12 x 052D, dozens of nuke subs, to go with four carriers by 2025 might. If not these are built to change minds, or change the people who makes them.

By then, we will have 4 Light Carriers, and 3 Amphibious Assault Ships, with 43 F-35As serving in the JASDF, and another 40 F-35Bs serving in the JMSDF and associated Light Carriers. Not to even include our already substantial Surface Capital Ships. I'm not even including our Submarine Fleet incremental changes by 2025.

 

[Nike]

Preparing for an invasion maybe credit to original uploader

 

[Aepsilons]

Preparing for an invasion maybe

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Wow! Empire Strikes Back!

 

[Nike]

Wow! Empire Strikes Back!

we never became an empire, it was Japan who was an Empire

credit to Reppu

 

[Nike]

The next Indonesian highest Military Officer (President in Indonesia is Chief of Armed forces) style in front of Media reporters

 

[nufix]

The next Indonesian highest Military Officer (President in Indonesia is Chief of Armed forces) style in front of Media reporters

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he is so down to earth and humble but I hope he won't be over down to earth that he may become another gus dur who embarassed himself by wearing shorts during an official media conference.

 

[Brainsucker]

true, if we live in an ideal world. Except we don't, the reason America continue has a place in middle east, despite, shall we call misadventures, is because it's awesome power. Take that away and they would be outcast. Not many would argue that, US has done far worse in middle east than we have in SCS, especially considering we haven't done much.

Yet here we are.

We are both firing jabs at each other, but still inseparable aren't we, my Japanese enemy. lol

No, we are just fine, as long as we are, just fine.


Neutral, sounds good, until you remember no great power has ever been neutral. But if you like to be the first you are welcome to try.

As to resolving things without war, sure, if the situation calls for it, I say yes. I don't think Indonesia would go to war anyways. Or us for that matter.

But never assume we fear Indonesia joining the US, see the thing US "cares" about, freedom of navigation(though it is our top priority as well), makes sure no matter what happens, who joins what, as long as we don't fire the first shot, we can continue to expand.

The pretenses, US uses is the same thing that shackles them from taking concrete action. When the day comes, the US can no longer freely do that, I mean more so than now, Indonesia will choose the right side, and even if you don't, it hardly matters.

It is not about that we live in an ideal world. It is what we call manner. Pointing gun to somebody that you want to be a friend is stupid. Are you Indonesian Friend, or our enemy? There is no a middle ground here. If you consider us as your enemy, then fine. But if you consider that we are your friend, then you should understand what everyone call as "Manner". and pointing gun or being arrogant is not the answer. Even your movie teach you that arrogant people are stupid. Yet, your words is full of arrogant and talking big. You even pointing us with gun and say that we are nothing compared to your mighty fleet. So I have to teach you some manner here, young boy. Everyone know that China is big, but should you boasting it to everyone like a rich kid show their expensive toys to the other poorer kids? It won't help your country, I repeat, it won't help your country at all!

So now, learn "Manner". It will not only make you better as a person, but also help your country in this world diplomacy struggle. Remember, our countries relationship is good right now, don't make something stupid that will tarnish your country's hard work and make them bad in the eyes of Indonesians people.

 

[Jakartans@PkDef]

Preparing for an invasion maybe credit to original uploader

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6 Van Speijk frigates, 3 Ragam and 2 of 4 Sigma. (1 Sigma = KRI Fransi Kaisiepo still on UNIFIL mission in Lebanon waters)

It think our Navy should upgrading KRI Nala, KRI Fatahillah and KRI Malahayati with the latest Exocet series and CIWS gun.

 

[Brainsucker]

6 Van Speijk frigates, 3 Ragam and 2 of 4 Sigma. (1 Sigma = KRI Fransi Kaisiepo still on UNIFIL mission in Lebanon waters)

Yang aku ngak demen dari foto di atas karena jepretnya pake lensa mata kucing. Jadi keindahan kapal2 nya jadi ngak kelihatan

 

[Jakartans@PkDef]

Yang aku ngak demen dari foto di atas karena jepretnya pake lensa mata kucing. Jadi keindahan kapal2 nya jadi ngak kelihatan

Bird-eye lens biasa dipake utk capture wide area dalam satu frame krn jarak fotonya pendek.
Si fotografer gak punya range krn capture-nya dari gedung terdekat.