Mao Zedong's 120th birthday anniversary

[ChineseTiger1986]

if people did bad things you say they did bad things, even Mao was accepted his mistakes after GLF, it doesn't mean take away good things, just like Mr HCM sold country to white man French doesn't mean he could not be superior human being, just acknowledge both ok

Mao was responsible for millions of Chinese death because of inferior policy, it's not considered as efficient or successful way of industrialisation my China friend

the peasant like him but his comrades did not, it was your master Soviet put him in power

You are wrong, Mao was not a Soviet puppet, while USSR wanted this man to take the position from Mao.

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[Kolaps]

All you guys never live under the age of Mao and none of you was raped by communist. Your entire families or clans are not wipe out.

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Communist raped and killed her.

You are very funny.

So there's no rape case in US and Europe?

Mao Zedong is not some GOD, just a normal human. During his old age from 1960s to early 1970s, he fell into the personality cult and power vortex.

As i listed in above post, Mao did the good more than the bad for China, and when pass away he left a strong China:
1. 1970s China can design & produce aircrafts/cars/ships/missiles/rockets/satellites
2. During 1960s-1970s P.R.C completed Nuclear & Space industry develop & research
3. During 1950s-1970s P.R.C completed the industrial revolution inside mainland of China.
4. Compared with 1949, Chinese population rapidly increase.
5. 1970s P.R.C return U.N, as one of five permanent members
6. In Cold War, Mao successfully developed diplomatic ties with the West.

Except Mao's power struggle at his old age, Mao's China completed the industrial development. It is the footstone to future powerful China , Mao's time has beneficial contributions to the China development.

After 1980s Deng's China, he didn't deny the merits of Mao. China continue developing above Mao's contributions in PRC.


For relationship between Annam/Vietnam and China, it belongs to Mao's foreign policy, different discussion topic to Mao's development inside P.R.C.



Mao's influence, a kind of fight belief. It's no mater whether Mao know & like them, they just believe in Mao's skills & experiences in struggle.

BS!

They were someone else works, not Mao Zedong. You need to read mainland history deeper and more specific.

Well, I am a bit short on time right now, so I will just cover Mao's contribution regarding to Chinese agriculture.

Food is the cornerstone of the society and in order to feed a modern nation, you need modern agriculture techniques, which mean farming machine, pesticide, chemical fertilizer, reliable irrigation. Let's first talk about farming machines: Tractors are one of the most often used machine in agriculture production. The very first Chinese tractor factory produced is found in 1958 at Jiangxi Province, Nanchang City. Pesticide and Chemical fertilizers both require petroleum to be made. Farming machines also require petroleum products to run. The very first Chinese oil field is the Daqing field which is found during the aggressive expansion of Great Leap forward. Because Daqing, China never suffered another famine. Irrigation is another foundation of modern agriculture. While Mao's China did not have the expertise to build titanic structures like the three gorge dam, they were quite capable and did build a large number of water reserve and small hydro stations. Many of them still operates until today. Did you wondered why China is producing more food than India (as well as the next two countries combined) despite having less land devoted for agriculture? These are the reasons. Without farming machines, farmer's productivity is low. Without pesticides, the crop will be ruined by pests. Without fertilizers, you would drain the land dry and without dams and reservoirs, you can't store water for dry season and prevent flood during wet season.

Mao has plenty of other contributions. Infrastructure, education, medicare, economy, technological progress, military achievements. China is powerful today because Mao and subsequent leaders each laid powerful foundations for their successors.

Oh, one of the biggest jokes is that some countries want to copy Deng's economic achievements, but unwilling to go through Mao's work first. Guess what, you can't build a skyscraper without working on the foundation first.

It's someone else work, not Mao Zedong. Mao Zedong just know how to ruin everything with his childish fantasy about communism.

The evidence shown during the Cultural Revolution, where he didn't understand anything about the basic things you mentioned above. He destroyed it.

If he is not the greatest leader of China, then who is?

He made China industrialized, before his era, the stone age ROC couldn't even produce a single bullet.

Smart and educated people will prefer Deng Xiaobing over Mao Zedong.

 

[INDIC]

@Kolaps why was Taiwan put under martial law after the civil war spreading for almost 4 decades.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

You are very funny.

So there's no rape case in US and Europe?

Lin Zhao is somehow special in a way that people remember her. She is a beacon of truth and courage when China Chinese are full of liars, nut head, back stabber..etc

Go Google and see how much result you got for Lin Zhao. In Singapore, only I know Lin Zhao as far as I know. In China, a lot more. They are funny?

The mad dog culture from Mao still lingers in China. China Chinese are 道德败坏，淫荡. Many PRC admit it also. There are moral deficit in China. These are Mao's legacies.

 

[Kolaps]

Lin Zhao is somehow special in a way that people remember her. She is a beacon of truth and courage when China Chinese are full of liars, nut head, back stabber..etc

Go Google and see how much result you got for Lin Zhao. In Singapore, only I know Lin Zhao as far as I know. In China, a lot more. They are funny?

The mad dog culture from Mao still lingers in China. China Chinese are 道德败坏，淫荡. Many PRC admit it also. There are moral deficit in China. These are Mao's legacies.

Awesome post!

Now, what is the opinion of mainland members and supporters here about her?

@Kolaps why was Taiwan put under martial law after the civil war spreading for almost 4 decades.

Please, be more specific!

 

[Lux de Veritas]

Russian take down Stalin. They repent. Stalin did a lot of things for Russia. but that do not negate the fact that he is an assholle.

Chinese dont repent. We should be ashamed of ourselves. 死不认错

 

[INDIC]

Please, be more specific!

Taiwan was under Martial law from 1949 to 1987, any specific reason for imposing Martial Law in the country.

 

[bolo]

Lin Zhao is somehow special in a way that people remember her. She is a beacon of truth and courage when China Chinese are full of liars, nut head, back stabber..etc

Go Google and see how much result you got for Lin Zhao. In Singapore, only I know Lin Zhao as far as I know. In China, a lot more. They are funny?

The mad dog culture from Mao still lingers in China. China Chinese are 道德败坏，淫荡. Many PRC admit it also. There are moral deficit in China. These are Mao's legacies.

It's unfortunate she was killed, but this has nothing to do with this topic. Anyone that can unite a country in a chaotic situation, triumphed and made a country strong is good in my books.

Given your argument, would you say Cao Cao was a bad leader?

 

[Lux de Veritas]

It's unfortunate she was killed, but this has nothing to do with this topic. Anyone that can unite a country in a chaotic situation, triumphed and made a country strong is good in my books.

Given your argument, would you say Cao Cao was a bad leader?

The difference between Chinese and Russian is Russian have the courage to repent the sins of Lenin and Stalin. Chinese are shameless.

 

[Fattyacids]

It's unfortunate she was killed, but this has nothing to do with this topic. Anyone that can unite a country in a chaotic situation, triumphed and made a country strong is good in my books.

Given your argument, would you say Cao Cao was a bad leader?

Victims of political power struggle are a dime a dozen in any war-worn country.

Excellent point!!

 

[Lux de Veritas]

Victims of political power struggle are a dime a dozen in any war-worn country.

Excellent point!!

Not in the scale of China, and not in peace time.

This thread has become Chinese vs Chinese.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Russian take down Stalin. They repent. Stalin did a lot of things for Russia. but that do not negate the fact that he is an assholle.

Chinese dont repent. We should be ashamed of ourselves. 死不认错

After completely denying Stalin, Russia has been completely downgraded from a superpower to a second rate great power.

Not in the scale of China, and not in peace time.

This thread has become Chinese vs Chinese.

I think you Singaporean should mind your own business.

It is better for you to overthrow your own dictator Lee Kuan Yew before you want to lecture China about history.

 

[tranquilium]

You are very funny.

So there's no rape case in US and Europe?

BS!

They were someone else works, not Mao Zedong. You need to read mainland history deeper and more specific.

It's someone else work, not Mao Zedong. Mao Zedong just know how to ruin everything with his childish fantasy about communism.

The evidence shown during the Cultural Revolution, where he didn't understand anything about the basic things you mentioned above. He destroyed it.

Smart and educated people will prefer Deng Xiaobing over Mao Zedong.

So...basically everything that works is someone else's work and anything that doesn't work is Mao's fault? With a view like that, no wonder you have such a skewed view on Mao.

Then your 百家讲坛 is pure bs? Guys there are entertainer?

You tell me. If you are writing a serious piece of paper on history, would you quote them?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

So...basically everything that works is someone else's work and anything that doesn't work is Mao's fault? With a view like that, no wonder you have such a skewed view on Mao.



You tell me. If you are writing a serious piece of paper on history, would you quote them?

Both Taiwan and Singapore are our enemies, i think you are wasting your time to convince our enemies.

 

[tranquilium]

Both Taiwan and Singapore are our enemies, i think you are wasting your time to convince our enemies.

Eh, I don't think they are enemies. Singapore is more like a distance cousin, several times removed and Taiwan is like a half-brother. Remember, 共产党的口号是团结一切可团结力量，国民党的口号是宁可错杀三千，也不放过一个。所以我们的力量越打越大，国民党的敌人越打越多。