Open Debate | Do Bangladeshis regard India as a 'savior' ?

[Kompromat]

The question is that during the 1971 war when there was a civil strife in then East Pakistan, India decided to take advantage of the civil strige and invaded Pakistan against all international laws. Their agenda was to disintegrate Pakistan while appealing to the eastern Pakistanis as their 'saviors', hence trying to score two hits with one shot.

Since the war is over and Bangladesh is now a free nation, i am interested in asking from the Bangladeshis on this forum, if or not today in 2013, they accept India as their 'savior' for invading in a domestic conflict of a sovereign nation, or not. What role does India play in the psyche and the history of Bangladesh for the Bangladeshi youth??

Please participate in a civil debate and the poll.

Best regards.

 

[BanglaBhoot]

I think the wrong question is being asked. Since 1971 India has been presented as the savior and Pakistan the villain and there has been very little to present an alternative version of this perspective. Many Pakistani journalists and intellectuals have supported this viewpoint and only recent works such as Sarmila Bose and my book have provided a different version of history. The question should really be is India still considered a savior and the question is now definitely no. There is no point in delving into the past since attitudes in Bangladesh are now changing and Pakistan should welcome that.

 

[Thirdfront]

The question is that during the 1971 war when there was a civil strife in then East Pakistan, India decided to take advantage of the civil strige and invaded Pakistan against all international laws. Their agenda was to disintegrate Pakistan while appealing to the eastern Pakistanis as their 'saviors', hence trying to score two hits with one shot.

Since the war is over and Bangladesh is now a free nation, i am interested in asking from the Bangladeshis on this forum, if or not today in 2013, they accept India as their 'savior' for invading in a domestic conflict of a sovereign nation, or not. What role does India play in the psyche and the history of Bangladesh for the Bangladeshi youth??

Please participate in a civil debate and the poll.

Best regards.

Which laws? India declared war after failed preemptive attack....

 

[damiendehorn]

Yes and no, part saviour and part opportunist. To the declining older generation a sort of saviour, and to the new generation a opportunist.

 

[Anubis]

In context of 1971 Inidia's political support in the international arena was most important.Otherwise we would have faced difficulty to get recognition from other countries.And as for military intervention although India was heavily involved in the separatist movement 'technically' speaking it was Pakistan who launched a military attack against India first and that led to active intervention of IA.If the active intervention had never happened history would probably be different.As Pakistan army certainly did not have the strength to sustain their operation for a long period of time(like Balochistan).The whole conflict would come to a standstill.EP would become a de facto independent state which was a Pakistani province on paper but with no Pakistani control whatsoever.Either Mujib-Bhutto-Yahya could have reached a conclusion and sort the matter out.Or Mujib could be hanged and the worst could happen and Agartala Gov would sign a accession instrument and join India.If we had joined India than that would basically be horrible for all of us.With a communist government on East Bengal and a communist government in West Bengal and hostile communist fringes around WB,Assam joined with hostile commies from East Bengal and also add a hundred thousand armed guerilas blessed by Breznev would basically be a recipe for disaster.But this is all what could have been.What happened has happened and ultimately we got what we wanted.

In context of today is India our savior??Can't say until they establish a visa-free policy and let us visit Sikkim to show their brotherly love towards us.

 

[my2cents]

The question is that during the 1971 war when there was a civil strife in then East Pakistan, India decided to take advantage of the civil strige and invaded Pakistan against all international laws. Their agenda was to disintegrate Pakistan while appealing to the eastern Pakistanis as their 'saviors', hence trying to score two hits with one shot.

Since the war is over and Bangladesh is now a free nation, i am interested in asking from the Bangladeshis on this forum, if or not today in 2013, they accept India as their 'savior' for invading in a domestic conflict of a sovereign nation, or not. What role does India play in the psyche and the history of Bangladesh for the Bangladeshi youth??

Please participate in a civil debate and the poll.

Best regards.

I think a better question would be if East Pakistan would have become independent without Indian support.

 

[third eye]

The question is that during the 1971 war when there was a civil strife in then East Pakistan, India decided to take advantage of the civil strige and invaded Pakistan against all international laws. Their agenda was to disintegrate Pakistan while appealing to the eastern Pakistanis as their 'saviors', hence trying to score two hits with one shot.

Since the war is over and Bangladesh is now a free nation, i am interested in asking from the Bangladeshis on this forum, if or not today in 2013, they accept India as their 'savior' for invading in a domestic conflict of a sovereign nation, or not. What role does India play in the psyche and the history of Bangladesh for the Bangladeshi youth??

Please participate in a civil debate and the poll.

Best regards.

Please elaborate / quote the International laws India violated and what action if any did Pakistan take to take India to the The Hague . It has after all done so on the IWT. The fact that Pak has quietly lumped it establishes to me that no laws were violated.

Pakistan is being vioilated even today by Drones, which court has Pak taken the US to ? Lets therefore not talk of International laws.

@ subject, we live in an ungrateful world where a son does not acknowledge what his father did / does for him. Mughal / Muslim history is replete with instances where the son could not wait for his father to die while the father spied on the son.

It does not therefore matter to India what BD feels of what it did in 71. You have rightly said the aim was to dismember Pakistan which was achieved. The threat from the East is no more.

Like they say " Neki Kar Darya Mein Daal" .. Thats what India did.

 

[Srinivas]

In PDF those Jammati supporters will vote against India that is not a surprising thing. But Another option should have been.

"India acted after the influx of refugees which soured more than 10 million and to prevent the atrocities of West Pakistan on Bengalis".

 

[SarthakGanguly]

I think the wrong question is being asked. Since 1971 India has been presented as the savior and Pakistan the villain and there has been very little to present an alternative version of this perspective. Many Pakistani journalists and intellectuals have supported this viewpoint and only recent works such as Sarmila Bose and my book have provided a different version of history. The question should really be is India still considered a savior and the question is now definitely no. There is no point in delving into the past since attitudes in Bangladesh are now changing and Pakistan should welcome that.

Sharmila Bose is no historian. She has humiliated the Bengalis and openly claimed them to be criminals. Though I don't intend to be party to this mud slinging, I wish to interject that considering India a friend or not is one thing. Considering one's own countrymen murderers is quite another - that too on the premise of one Sarmila Bose. Not smart.
@Anubis - Sikkim is risky. What if you fall from a cliff? We care - see?
Seriously, you can come, getting a VISA for India is very easy. I will suggest taking a flight though. Crossing the border by land must $uck. Both border forces are corrupt as hell

 

[BanglaBhoot]

Sharmila Bose is no historian. She has humiliated the Bengalis and openly claimed them to be criminals. Though I don't intend to be party to this mud slinging, I wish to interject that considering India a friend or not is one thing. Considering one's own countrymen murderers is quite another - that too on the premise of one Sarmila Bose. Not smart.
@Anubis - Sikkim is risky. What if you fall from a cliff? We care - see?
Seriously, you can come, getting a VISA for India is very easy. I will suggest taking a flight though. Crossing the border by land must $uck. Both border forces are corrupt as hell

Sarmila Bose is a highly educated and reputable writer.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Sarmila Bose is a highly educated and reputable writer.

http://www.spittoon.org/archives/10281

 

[Shinigami]

The question is that during the 1971 war when there was a civil strife in then East Pakistan, India decided to take advantage of the civil strige and invaded Pakistan against all international laws. Their agenda was to disintegrate Pakistan while appealing to the eastern Pakistanis as their 'saviors', hence trying to score two hits with one shot..

your first mistake. india attacked after pakistan decided to do an israeli inspired operation Genghiz Khan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Chengiz_Khan

it did not strike the pak leaders of the possibility that egypt and india are in different leagues

 

[BanglaBhoot]

http://www.spittoon.org/archives/10281

And you think a cartoon adds to your credibility????

 

[SarthakGanguly]

And you think a cartoon adds to your credibility????

Post read fail.

Read again.

 

[Kompromat]

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