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The fate of minorities in Pakistan

Do Muslim lives matter in Pakistan?

Only billionaire lives matter in Pakistan. People here, get confused that just because some one is a minority he/she is getting witch-hunted because of that. Sure there might be a few cases, but the majority of cases are because of poverty. Poor have 0 access to justice, thats the bottom line and this needs targeted reforms. The false narrative that "only minorities are living in some sort of hell" and the rest are enjoying the paradise in Pakistan, needs to be fixed before it takes shape like the LGBTQ/Feminist movement(where genuine issues of women, like acid attacks, honor killings, domestic violence are shadowed/undermined because of "mera jism meri marzi narrative"). There is a severe need of political, judicial and police reforms.
 
Only billionaire lives matter in Pakistan. People here, get confused that just because some one is a minority he/she is getting witch-hunted because of that. Sure there might be a few cases, but the majority of cases are because of poverty. Poor have 0 access to justice, thats the bottom line and this needs targeted reforms. The false narrative that "only minorities are living in some sort of hell" and the rest are enjoying the paradise in Pakistan, needs to be fixed before it takes shape like the LGBTQ/Feminist movement(where genuine issues of women, like acid attacks, honor killings, domestic violence are shadowed/undermined because of "mera jism meri marzi narrative"). There is a severe need of political, judicial and police reforms.
Can they charge the capital in one last desperate attempt and not be called terrorists?
 
Punjab is lucky that these news even make out to the mainstream media.

People have been marrying their daughters to Quran in Sindh for decades to take their share of the property and no one blinks an eye for them, I hope the girl gets Justice and not just some Justice but Islamic Justice because Allah said there is no Compulsion in Religion.
 
People have been marrying their daughters to Quran in Sindh for decades to take their share of the property and no one blinks an eye for them, I hope the girl gets Justice and not just some Justice but Islamic Justice because Allah said there is no Compulsion in Religion.
Cultural practices?
 
I suspect this thread will result in the usual responses of "fake Western kafir propaganda" and a lot of "what about..." arguments, but the more Pakistanis bury their heads in the sand, the more degenerate the society becomes. Before pointing the finger at the hindutva bigots across the border, lets not forget that Pakistan has suffered from religiously inspired right wing politics since the 1980s, the results of which can be seen with the many thousands of dead due to terrorist acts and the fight to combat extremist ideology.

Abducted, shackled and forced to marry at 12
The thing is, we have our share of problems in society. Extremism not only affects the minorities but the majority common people as well. Abduction and forced marriages happen in the majority muslims as well. In Pakistan, we atleast dont have systemic abuse against minorities like in india. Common pakistani are supportive of minorities and there is no systemic or planned racism against them. There are societal problems that will reduce with time.
The real problem is when a state actually targets its minorities and wants to change demographics or discourage a particular faith or race. Even the so called western civilized countries have plans against minorities, like laws banning veil and face cover, targeting a minority, raising hatred abt them in society. In india citizenship laws based on faith and planned abuse of minorities happen. I just wish there was no hypocrisy and people would address those issues the same way they so enthusiastically raise minority issues in Pakistan.
 
First, starts by treating ethnic groups equally without stereotyping on here on this forum, never mind minorities out there in the real world.
 
Abducted, shackled and forced to marry at 12
By Mike Thomson
BBC News



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Farah, a 12-year-old Christian girl, says she was taken from her home in Pakistan last summer, shackled, forced to convert to Islam and made to marry her kidnapper. It's a fate estimated to befall hundreds of young Christian, Hindu and Sikh women and children in the country each year.


On 25 June, Farah was at home in Faisalabad, Pakistan's third most populous city, with her grandfather, three brothers and two sisters when they heard knocking on their front door. She remembers her grandfather going to open it. Then three men burst in, grabbed Farah and forced her into a van outside.

They warned the family that if they tried to get her back "they'd make us regret it", says Farah's father, Asif, who was at work at the time.
Asif went to the nearest police station to report the crime - even providing the name of one of the abductors, whom Farah's grandfather had recognised - but he says the officers showed little interest in helping.

"They were very unco-operative and refused to register the crime. Not only that but they pushed me around and verbally abused me."
Despite repeated complaints to the police it was three months before they finally registered the incident. And even then they took no action.

During this time, 12-year-old Farah, who'd been driven 70 miles (110km) to a house in the nearby city of Hafizabad, says she was raped, shackled and treated like a slave.
"I was chained most of the time and ordered to clean the abductor's home as well as take care of the animals in the yard outside. It was terrible," she says.
"They'd put chains on my ankles, and tied me with a rope. I tried to cut the rope and get the chains off, but I couldn't manage it. I prayed every night, saying, 'God, please help me.'"
This crime is committed by many people, and the authorities don't do anything
Bishop Victor Azariah
National Council of Churches in Pakistan
There were about two million Christians in Pakistan at the time of the last census, just over 1% of the total population.

According to human rights organisations as many as 1,000 Christian, Hindu and Sikh girls are abducted each year. Many of them are forced to convert to Islam, because it is widely believed in Pakistan that marriages under the age of 16 are acceptable under Sharia law if both of those marrying are Muslim. And this is what happened in Farah's case: she was forced to convert, then married by her abductor.

The National Council of Churches in Pakistan (NCCP) says the number of such abductions is increasing.

"It's hundreds, hundreds, many girls, many girls. This crime is committed by many people, and the authorities don't do anything," says the NCCP's general secretary, Bishop Victor Azariah.
Farah's desperately worried father, Asif, sought help from his local church, which then organised legal aid for the family.
In early December, after five months of desperate lobbying for the abductor to be arrested and for Farah to be set free, police finally took action.

"Four police came to the abductor's house and told people there that the court had ordered that I must come with them to a police station," says Farah.
On 5 December, her case came before Faisalabad's District and Sessions Courts and the magistrate sent her to a shelter for women and children, while further investigations were carried out.
The shackles on Farah's ankles left wounds that needed bandaging

image captionThe shackles on Farah's ankles left wounds that took time to heal
But once again there was bad news.

While the family waited for a final decision from the courts, police told Farah's father they were dropping their investigation - because Farah said that she had agreed to both the marriage and the conversion.

Farah then repeated this in court on 23 January. But court officials were suspicious that she may have been coerced into making the statement - and Farah says this was indeed the case.
"I said this because the abductor told me that if I didn't he'd first kill me, then murder my father, followed by my brothers and sisters. My whole family. I was really afraid that he'd do this, so I agreed to say what he told me."

Three weeks later on 16 February, nearly eight months after she was taken from her home, judges ruled that Farah's marriage had not been registered properly and was therefore invalid.
She was saved thanks to a technicality - and reunited with her family.
Farah hugs her sister outside court

image captionFarah hugs one of her sisters outside the court

Even when abducted children are rescued, their ordeal is often far from over. In many cases threats are made to abduct them again, or kill family members, and the trauma goes on.

This is what happened in the case of Maria Shahbaz, a 14-year-old Christian girl, who managed to escape after being kidnapped and forced to marry her abductor. She and her family have since been forced to go into hiding following repeated death threats.

In an effort to help Maria, a 12,500-name petition organised by the UK-based charity, Aid to the Church in Need, was recently handed in to the UK government. Signed by more than 30 British parliamentarians, including bishops, peers and MPs, it calls for her to be granted asylum.
Aid to the Church in Need's Spokesman, John Pontifex, says the situation facing many abducted girls and their families in Pakistan has become desperate.

"The trauma these children go through is often compounded by the threats they and their families face after being freed from their abductors. For some, like Maria, asylum in the UK is their only hope of safety."

Pakistan's prime minister, the former cricketer Imran Khan, has ordered an investigation into forced conversion of religious minorities in the predominantly Muslim country.
His special representative on religious harmony, Tahir Mehmood Ashrafi, recently stated: "Forced marriages, forced conversion of religion and abduction of underage girls of other religions in the name of marriages, will not be tolerated."

However, Asif's experience with the police suggests that there is a long way to go. He has pledged to continue his efforts to get the three men accused of abducting his daughter prosecuted.
Farah, now 13, is overjoyed to be at home again, and is recovering from the trauma of what happened to her with the aid of a psychologist. She fervently hopes that action will finally be taken to spare other girls the same fate.
"I pray that God will protect all children in Pakistan, that he will watch over them all."

 
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I am amazed why we hide all of this, why we as muslims are so relectant to accept this reality when the sole bases of Islam is on "Justice". And justice for every one not only for muslims, if something wrong is happening with non muslims of our country we should be the first one to raise voice and stop it but unfortunately it is other way around.

“O you who have believed, be persistently standing firm in justice, witnesses for Allah, even if it be against yourselves or parents and relatives. Whether one is rich or poor, Allah is more worthy of both.” [Quran, 4:135]
 
BBC? Okay bye.
13-Year-Old Hindu Girl Forcibly Converted To Islam By Extremist Cleric Mian Mithu: Reports

 
13-Year-Old Hindu Girl Forcibly Converted To Islam By Extremist Cleric Mian Mithu: Reports

Is that Mian Mithu behind bars now?
 
13-Year-Old Hindu Girl Forcibly Converted To Islam By Extremist Cleric Mian Mithu: Reports

Murtaza Solangi: Executive Editor
Raza Rumi: Founding Editor

I would rather trust a cat with a chicken than these two individuals.
 
Why does this clown get unbanned every time? Why not a permanent ban?
Mods?

On topic: While such acts are barbaric and should be highlighted, no matter which country they’re from. I’d recommend the Indians to give basic humans rights to the following before coming to a Pakistani forum and posting such news from BBC of all places:
Women
Muslims
Sikhs
Buddhists
Lower Caste Hindus.
I would also recommend leaving animals out of sexual acts.
After all this has been accomplished, you are free to criticize Pakistan. Until then kindly **** off.
 
Why does this clown get unbanned every time? Why not a permanent ban?
Mods?
Why? Too hard to handle the truth
Women
Muslims
Sikhs
Buddhists
Lower Caste Hindus.
None of the above never migrate from India to Pakistan but they do migrate from Pakistan to India. That's answers ur question.
 

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