Temporary Peace, Permanent Threat (for India) - Praveen Sawhney

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[PakistaniAtBahrain]

i wonder if Kashmir issue resolution is close at hand or not. not sure why we agreed to a ceasefire if thats not the case. what happens when Indian troops commit another atrocity on Kashmiris?

 

[Dark1]

i wonder if Kashmir issue resolution is close at hand or not. not sure why we agreed to a ceasefire if thats not the case. what happens when Indian troops commit another atrocity on Kashmiris?

You do realize that foreigners except Pakistanis can just drive or fly into indian kashmir without any permit ? Do you believe this atrocity propaganda or are you just being a good Pakistani ?

 

[peagle]

i wonder if Kashmir issue resolution is close at hand or not. not sure why we agreed to a ceasefire if thats not the case. what happens when Indian troops commit another atrocity on Kashmiris?

Then no more ceasefire, it's that simple.

I think it is important to remember, that us sitting far away only see a certain perspective. Soldiers are there to fight for the country so ceasefire or none, they are ready to sit or fight.

But it's the people who live near the LOC, we need to remember them, they suffer constantly, and the sad fact is the people on both sides of the LOC are our own people.

Indian army does not care who they fire at or kill, but we do. If ceasefire means those people have peace, that has to be a good thing, but it does not mean there is any change in our stance, nor our willingness to fight.

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

You do realize that foreigners except Pakistanis can just drive or fly into indian kashmir without any permit ? Do you believe this atrocity propaganda or are you just being a good Pakistani ?

Kashmiris love india so much. so, so, so much. thats why all of Kashmir was in a lockdown for over a year and politicians were arrested and political parties banned.

 

[peagle]

You do realize that foreigners except Pakistanis can just drive or fly into indian kashmir without any permit ? Do you believe this atrocity propaganda or are you just being a good Pakistani ?

And,
Do you realize that the atrocities have been documented by various organizations, even the official Indian government figure is around 45,000 I think.
The Kashmiris themselves claim 100,000 killed, even if you meet the two figures in the middle, 75,000 killed, plus tortured and raped, is shameful, I am shocked that you people try to defend such atrocities.

I think I prefer to believe the people who are getting killed, and neutral organizations, even though they are not given full access, then believe the killers, that's the Indian government and the Indian army.

 

[Dark1]

Then no more ceasefire, it's that simple.

I think it is important to remember, that us sitting far away only see a certain perspective. Soldiers are there to fight for the country so ceasefire or none, they are ready to sit or fight.

But it's the people who live near the LOC, we need to remember them, they suffer constantly, and the sad fact is the people on both sides of the LOC are our own people.

Indian army does not care who they fire at or kill, but we do. If ceasefire means those people have peace, that has to be a good thing, but it does not mean there is any change in our stance, nor our willingness to fight.

In all seriousness, the drastic drop in terrorist attacks in kashmir after the state was divided and the act 370 was discarded, shows that for all the propaganda by Pakistan, the powers in Pakistan have come to terms with the reality.
Nuclear weapons have stopped being deterrents for punitive actions by India ; and for this new reality Pakistan has no answer .

 

[hussain0216]

In all seriousness, the drastic drop in terrorist attacks in kashmir after the state was divided and the act 370 was discarded, shows that for all the propaganda by Pakistan, the powers in Pakistan have come to terms with the reality.
Nuclear weapons have stopped being deterrents for punitive actions by India ; and for this new reality Pakistan has no answer .

It has a answer

It shot down your plane and bombed your military installations

In panic you shot down your own helicopter

What else do you want


All.of India is a divided hatefilled poisonous hindutva extremist communal shithole

It's why Kashmiri are even more determined to get away, they already see Indian Muslims waking up

 

[peagle]

In all seriousness, the drastic drop in terrorist attacks in kashmir after the state was divided and the act 370 was discarded, shows that for all the propaganda by Pakistan, the powers in Pakistan have come to terms with the reality.
Nuclear weapons have stopped being deterrents for punitive actions by India ; and for this new reality Pakistan has no answer .

In all seriousness,
if you have nearly a million soldiers and paramilitary personal in a small area, a soldier for every corner and every house, you will naturally have a drop in militant activity, in all seriousness, let's get serious with the evaluations.

If you can afford to keep nearly a million soldiers on the streets of Kashmir, forever,
then go for it, and good luck.

 

[Titanium100]

Nuclear weapons have stopped being deterrents for punitive actions by India ; and for this new reality Pakistan has no answer .

Yeah no. India would have invaded Pakistan years ago if that was not the case. Plus India realized in 2019 that it can't defeat Pakistan in conventional military conflict. A heavily armed, Organized and drilled Pakistan armed forces ain't losing to disorganized vegetarian Indian army on low wages. There is just a certain level patriotism that India lacks which Pakistan doesn't and motivation. Numbers are an illusion here if Pakistan smashes the north the remaining folds.. India knows this that it can only rely on the North Indians mainly the Jats/punjabis, Gujjaratis, Biharis, Bengals, and the marathis

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

In all seriousness, the drastic drop in terrorist attacks in kashmir after the state was divided and the act 370 was discarded, shows that for all the propaganda by Pakistan, the powers in Pakistan have come to terms with the reality.
Nuclear weapons have stopped being deterrents for punitive actions by India ; and for this new reality Pakistan has no answer .

On the contrary, nuclear weapons have ensured that india remains too weak, powerless, backward and scared to take on the Pakistani military despite being more than 7x bigger than Pakistan and having the full backing of the West and Russia..................................

 

[Dark1]

Yeah no. India would have invaded Pakistan years ago if that was not the case. Plus India realized in 2019 that it can't defeat Pakistan in conventional military conflict. A heavily armed, Organized and drilled Pakistan armed forces ain't losing to disorganized vegetarian Indian army on low wages

And inspite of " heavily armed, Organized and drilled Pakistan armed forces ain't losing to disorganized vegetarian Indian army " , no direct attempt to rout this inept Indian army and wrest Kashmir ? Just relying on ragtag terrorists ?
Cowardice ?

 

[Titanium100]

And inspite of " heavily armed, Organized and drilled Pakistan armed forces ain't losing to disorganized vegetarian Indian army " , no direct attempt to rout this inept Indian army and wrest Kashmir ? Just relying on ragtag terrorists ?
Cowardice ?

Everything has it's time and date. No country wants to be the one to start WW3 but it will eventually explode down the line perhaps 2-3 decades from now. Nobody is in rush. But Kashmir is definitely not the price keep it for the time being but the price is everything beyond that area.

Indians falsely assume Kashmir but it has no value whatsoever. Delhi, Agra, Hyderabad etc etc have more Value.

 

[Dark1]

In all seriousness,
if you have nearly a million soldiers and paramilitary personal in a small area, a soldier for every corner and every house, you will naturally have a drop in militant activity, in all seriousness, let's get serious with the evaluations.

If you can afford to keep nearly a million soldiers on the streets of Kashmir, forever,
then go for it, and good luck.

With a army of 1.2 m , deployed on 2 fronts and reserves , you sound retarded repeating the 1 m figure for only kashmir. Most policing in kashmir is done by the local police, and thats the reason we see the reports of them being butchered by the terrorists , while on leave .

 

[PakistaniAtBahrain]

In all seriousness, the drastic drop in terrorist attacks in kashmir after the state was divided and the act 370 was discarded, shows that for all the propaganda by Pakistan, the powers in Pakistan have come to terms with the reality.
Nuclear weapons have stopped being deterrents for punitive actions by India ; and for this new reality Pakistan has no answer .

and as the muslim population of india rises you will have no answer.