"Hindustani language" : Indian propoganda on Wikipedia

[LASER1]

Panini was a brahmin,

Are you a Sanskrit speaking Brhamin? If you're let's have a conversation in Latin script and see.

 

[Great Brahmin]

Are you a Sanskrit speaking Brhamin? If you're let's have a conversation in Latin script and see.

You can ?

 

[LASER1]

You can ?

Oh, I am a Brahmin. But I don't brag about it like you, and I can have a conversation in Sanskrit.

 

[Great Brahmin]

Oh, I am a Brahmin. But I don't brag about it like you, and I can have a conversation in Sanskrit.

Jai Parashuram !

It's your choice, it's the language of my ancestors ofc I am proud of it and brag about it.

 

[TMA]

Panini was a brahmin, not some converted low caste jat Gujjar from same region.

He was so tired of your chamar ancestors that he actually created new pangulan for Brahmins.

@padamchen "we wuj brahmins and sheet !"

What a kaliyug, even our toilet cleaners claims to be one of us


You can accept truth because you are an Afghan or Iranic as @padamchen claims.

Your majority chamar convert countrymen on other hand are still fighting for some kind of identity by we wuzzing.

Never said he was not a Brahmin. Just that he was a coterminous Pakistani. Besides there are still today in Pakistan those of Brahmin blood who converted to the Religion of Abraham(PBUH).
Sanskrit is a much part of Pakistan's linguistic history as it is of Bharat's or Nepal's.

 

[Great Brahmin]

Never said he was not a Brahmin. Just that he was a coterminous Pakistani. Besides there are still today in Pakistan those of Brahmin blood who converted to the Religion of Abraham(PBUH).
Sanskrit is a much part of Pakistan's linguistic history as it is of Bharat's or Nepal's.

Pakistan is a fake nation.

He was a Brahmin and every Brahmin is an Indian because Indian nation/civilization or Aryavarta is the product of Brahminical doctrine.

Language, religion, script, way of life, customs, cultures etc all are product of the same doctrine.

We brahmins value blood, lineage and ancestry first, of anything I want to be as Brahmin superamacist as he was.

I am sure not even 0.000001% converted to abrahemoc relogore. Majority fled to the hills and plains that still carries highest % of our population today.

 

[django]

Panini was a coterminous Pakistani.
Tell me what language (script) did Amir Khusraw write in, and I am not talking about his Persian language works?

It is the devangarized re sanskritized Hindi that comes after the older Perso-Arabic Hindi (Urdu).

It was during British India times that the Vedantists wanted to "nativise" Hindi and remove Persian and Arabic words and introduced archaic sanskrit words as replacement. Which is fine if that is what they wanted, but the irony is that they still called their language Hindi, which is a "foreign" word! Perhaps you could write to the Government of Bharat and request that they change the name from Hindi to something more "native"?

Bro if one was to ask this fool @Great Brahmin AKA Vishvamitra to understand a single sentence of Hindko he will give you a blank yet he erroneously claims all this heritage, the fact is so-called Puranic Brahmins from Ganga/Dravid lands have NOTHING to do with Panini and co.Kudos

Pakistan is a fake nation.

He was a Brahmin and every Brahmin is an Indian because Indian nation/civilization or Aryavarta is the product of Brahminical doctrine.

Language, religion, script, way of life, customs, cultures etc all are product of the same doctrine.

We brahmins value blood, lineage and ancestry first, of anything I want to be as Brahmin superamacist as he was.

I am sure not even 0.000001% converted to abrahemoc relogore. Majority fled to the hills and plains that still carries highest % of our population today.

@WebMaster @Horus @Slav Defence He has a multiple ids , keeps on getting banned yet comes back and hurls vile insults against all Pakistanis and Islam, Mods please ban this filthy swine, I am sure other bloggers will endorse this action.
@war&peace @Indus Pakistan @Talwar e Pakistan @Spring Onion @DESERT FIGHTER @Talwar e Pakistan

@Sher Shah Awan

 

[TMA]

Pakistan is a fake nation.

He was a Brahmin and every Brahmin is an Indian because Indian nation/civilization or Aryavarta is the product of Brahminical doctrine.

Language, religion, script, way of life, customs, cultures etc all are product of the same doctrine.

We brahmins value blood, lineage and ancestry first, of anything I want to be as Brahmin superamacist as he was.

I am sure not even 0.000001% converted to abrahemoc relogore. Majority fled to the hills and plains that still carries highest % of our population today.

Bharat is a fake nation that uses a name derived from a river on another's territory.

Oh a lot more than 0.000001% converted....and this is what burns you.....many of your very own blood accepted the Religion of Abraham (Peace be upon him).....
It is due to arrogance of many of the Scholars/Elites of Indian Muslims that all of the Subcontinent of India did not accept the Religion of Abraham (Peace be upon him), otherwise the Subcontinent of India would be like Persia, Central Asia, Indonesia and Malaysia....majority Muslim.

Some Brahmins are Nepalese some are Pakistani ...maybe some are Indonesians ( I don't know if there were Brahmin in ancient Indonesia).

Brahmin blood is not exclusive to Bharat. Indeed Brahmin religion is not exclusive to Bharat. Nepal...

You do know that what people call "Hindiusm" today is so diverse that it means different things to different people...."Hindiusm" in Ancient Pakistan was very different to "Hindiusm" in Ancient Bharat to Ancient Indonesia....

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

Pakistan is a fake nation.

He was a Brahmin and every Brahmin is an Indian because Indian nation/civilization or Aryavarta is the product of Brahminical doctrine.

Language, religion, script, way of life, customs, cultures etc all are product of the same doctrine.

We brahmins value blood, lineage and ancestry first, of anything I want to be as Brahmin superamacist as he was.

I am sure not even 0.000001% converted to abrahemoc relogore. Majority fled to the hills and plains that still carries highest % of our population today.

Brahmins were told to keep away from coterminous Pakistan.

“that (region) where these five rivers, emerging from the mountains flow, this Aratta (country) is called Balhika where the Arya should not stay even for two days”.

Panini came from Gandhara and here is what a Brahmin has to say of it.

 

[django]

Bharat is a fake nation that uses a name derived from a river on another's territory.

Without question and a leach at that, folk like this @Great Brahmin AKA Vishvamitra are no different than black Nubians who make claims on the Egyptian pyramids, the truth is he has no history of his own so he decides to bootlick OURS, the fact is folk from Ghandara domesticated the savage, primitive ferals that were his ancestors during mid-Iron age yet he has the audacity to compare his self with his superiors US folks the men of the INDUS.Kudos bhai

You can accept truth because you are an Afghan or Iranic as @padamchen claims.

Did you even read his post you remedial.

 

[Cobra Arbok]

Without question and a leach at that, folk like this @Great Brahmin AKA Vishvamitra are no different than black Nubians who make claims on the Egyptian pyramids, the truth is he has no history of his own so he decides to bootlick OURS, the fact is folk from Ghandara domesticated the savage, primitive ferals that were his ancestors during mid-Iron age yet he has the audacity to compare his self with his superiors US folks the men of the INDUS.Kudos bhai

Did you even read his post you remedial.

that guy is a troll, but what you said is not true. The iron age occured in India long before Pakistan, and no indiginous pakistani empire has ever conquered significant parts of ancient india(modern day). On the other hand, the mauryans did rule ancient pakistan for several centuries. With that being said, i do agree gandhara is shared afghan/Pakistani heritage and indians cannot rightfully claim Gandharan heritage. As for panini you are right but if Pakistanis can admire tipu sultan and Aurangzeb, I dont see why indians cant look up to him. And i do not see any way indus civilization is superior to gangetic and dravidian civilization because they outlasted the Indus civilization and dravidian civilization actually predated the indus. And the ganges region is home to South Asia's oldest and most historically significant cities and strongest empires, along with the regions greatest mathematicians and scientists, not to mention ancient architecture that still stands today. Both Pakistan and India have glorious histories but its important for us to respect them and not claim each others heritage. If you are interested in ancient Indian history feel free to check out my threads. kudos.

 

[TMA]

that guy is a troll, but what you said is not true. The iron age occured in India long before Pakistan, and no indiginous pakistani empire has ever conquered significant parts of ancient india(modern day). On the other hand, the mauryans did rule ancient pakistan for several centuries. With that being said, i do agree gandhara is shared afghan/Pakistani heritage and indians cannot rightfully claim Gandharan heritage. As for panini you are right but if Pakistanis can admire tipu sultan and Aurangzeb, I dont see why indians cant look up to him. And i do not see any way indus civilization is superior to gangetic and dravidian civilization because they outlasted the Indus civilization and dravidian civilization actually predated the indus. And the ganges region is home to South Asia's oldest and most historically significant cities and strongest empires, along with the regions greatest mathematicians and scientists, not to mention ancient architecture that still stands today. Both Pakistan and India have glorious histories but its important for us to respect them and not claim each others heritage. If you are interested in ancient Indian history feel free to check out my threads. kudos.

Let me ask you this: Can Bharat today really call herself India?

Also there is a difference between admiring and honouring Tipu Sultan or Panini and claiming them as coterminous Pakistanis or Bharatis...

 

[Cobra Arbok]

Let me ask you this: Can Bharat today really call herself India?

Also there is a difference between admiring and honouring Tipu Sultan or Panini and claiming them as coterminous Pakistanis or Bharatis...

yes there is a difference between admiration and claiming. I was simply calling out tjose on both sides who claim others heritage. as for whether bharat can be called inda, I dont see why not. After all, a name is just a name, and the indus actualy flows through ladakh before it reaches pakistan. Some of the largeat and most impirtant ivc sites are also in india. Plus bharat is simply the hindi/sanskrit word for india. Hindustan is how you say india in urdu. I really dont know why some pakistanis are so obsessed with names. If you really want to claim the indus, why dont you rename your country the indus republic of pakistan or something like that? to me its a non issue.

 

[TMA]

yes there is a difference between admiration and claiming. I was simply calling out tjose on both sides who claim others heritage. as for whether bharat can be called inda, I dont see why not. After all, a name is just a name, and the indus actualy flows through ladakh before it reaches pakistan. Some of the largeat and most impirtant ivc sites are also in india. Plus bharat is simply the hindi/sanskrit word for india. Hindustan is how you say india in urdu. I really dont know why some pakistanis are so obsessed with names. If you really want to claim the indus, why dont you rename your country the indus republic of pakistan or something like that? to me its a non issue.

Names are important.

Most of the Indus goes through Pakistan, like 90%. The part which goes through Bharat is on disputed territory claimed by Pakistan.
Of course there are sites of the IVC in Bharat but the point is that the "heartland/origin" is in Pakistan.
Bharat is Sanskrit. Hindustan is not Sanskrit more like Persian. By the way India has no etymological link with the word Bharat like India does with Hindustan/Sindh. Also Hindi is more Persian than Sanskrit....Sindhi is more Sanskrit than Hindi (I am talking about the actual words).
Yes you are right many Pakistanis use Hindustan to refer to Bharat but that is because they are caught up in this reactionary politicisation that happened to history due to British India...I kinda don't blame them as I was one of them once upon a time....


To me Hindustan is the Subcontinent of India and that word should be used for the Subcontinent of India. I also try to specify India with either Republic (Bharat) or Subcontinent to make things clear.
Just imagine if France changed her name to Europe...what confusion would there be with Europe(the Subcontinent) and Europe the European Union. European history would be even more of a mess....LOL!

Like you will read that Panini was a great ancient "Indian" linguist....now does this mean Indian in the sense Subcontinent of India or Indian in the sense territory of Bharat? Cos the former is true but the latter is false...and the unassuming reader will most likely think the latter as he will naturally associate the word "India" not to Pakistan or Nepal or Bangladesh but the Republic of India (Bharat).
Or also that the IVC was a great ancient "Indian" civilisation, does this refer to the Subcontinent of India or Bharat, now in this case whilst both are true, the former is more accurate as the origin of the IVC is not in Bharat.

If Bharat also specified when she used India then it might not be so much of an issue but there is an undertone in this usage to delegitimise Pakistan...Pakistan is only 72 years old whereas "India" is millennia old etc etc....
This is why Quaid e Azaam was not happy when Bharat took the name India...try this thought experiment if Pakistan changed her name to India (in English)....how would Bharat react?

 

[fitpOsitive]

"Hindustani (Hindustani: हिन्दुस्तानी, ہندوستانی[a][6]), historically also known as Hindavi, Dehlvi, Urdu, and Rekhta, is thelingua franca of North India and most of Pakistan."
Everybody knows that the above names are old names of URdu , but what are indians trying to achieve by writing propoganda articals like this. I believe it,s a media warfare on nationwide scale that needs to be repulsed. i have encountered several user who were uploading these kind of propoganda video continiously on youtube creating a phscycological warfare to make other world believe that indian and pakistanis are same. Is it time that We should repulse this propoganda as nation, should we spend atleast a bit of our time from Facebook, twitter or PDF to take a look at those articals which are directly or indirectly connected to pakistan,s image, which will not only increase our knowledge about our history but we will also be serving our country? @Aeronaut @DESERT FIGHTER @Aslan @Spring Onion @RazPaK @pak-marine @farhan 9909 @Jaanbaz @eiaz 007 and all others

Rekhta is old Urdu. Hidustani, Hindi, Urdu are indeed one language.