Zakir Musa slams Indian Muslims for not joining jihad, calls them ‘world’s most shameless'

[Jacob Martin]

They are good for getting gang raped and lynched over beef and other nonsensical excuses... the poorest,under represented ,discriminated,pushed to the wall community in India.

Doesn't it feel nice to be so unapologetically malevolent? On any given day, when it serves your purpose, you will use the Muslim card to call for pan-Islamic solidarity. Yet, when that is rejected, you will turn against the same people and describe them in the most vicious terms.

Do you even realize that you are talking about your so-called fellow Muslims? So this is the extent of your solidarity?

 

[MultaniGuy]

Okay then explain the logic behind pan India celebrity status of Salman khan and the respect showered on APJ Abdul Kalam?



That would be like nursing a snake in one's bosom.
This reminds me of ZAKIR NAIK, a man who I thought was no less than a joker, but ended up manipulating more Indians than ppl like Owaisi.
Heard Namo has given Indian army 2 months to clean up the mess in valley. With Bipin Rawat at the helm of affairs I have no doubt this one too will be taken down at the earliest.
Next step in the valley would be to revoke art 370.

This Dr. Zakir Naik you mention is a good man, but he doesn't know everything nor does he know politics.

 

[EndangeredSpecies]

Frustrated terrorist. First kicked out by terror outfit HM and then by Indian muslims. Only few morons from Kashmir have any sympathy for him.

He lost his cause -- if he had any to begin with -- when he called for an Islamic Kashmir. He is now fighting for extremist Islam -- no different from ISIS -- rather than Kashmir or Kashmiri. He will meet his end soon and a violent end to boot : A wasted youth, and above all a wasted life.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Zakir Musa is just another terrorist.

 

[illusion8]

"They (Indian Muslims) are the most 'beghairat qaum' (shameless community) who cannot speak up against oppression and injustice. Is this what our Prophet and his 'salafs' (followers) have taught us? They gave their blood during the wars and martyrdom for the honour of our sisters," Musa said.

Okay, that taught me a bit about Islam. "salafi or salafism by definition means follower of Mohammed".

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Doesn't it feel nice to be so unapologetically malevolent? On any given day, when it serves your purpose, you will use the Muslim card to call for pan-Islamic solidarity. Yet, when that is rejected, you will turn against the same people and describe them in the most vicious terms.

Do you even realize that you are talking about your so-called fellow Muslims? So this is the extent of your solidarity?

I dont a fuk about pans or ummah... And i def, dont a fuk about indian muslims (specially the kind that think that by talking against Pak they will be shown mercy by indians or they can prove their loyality) you got the wrong man.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Zakir Musa is just another terrorist.

 

[Levina]

I will share , if you are interested in history od espionage in India go through the series (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrishya) if you havent watched yet ... its available on netflix

Thanks.
I haven't watched the episodes but I think I know about quiet a few of them.
On YouTube when I started watching one of its episodes it lead me to a video which was discussing Doval's victory in kashmir and how he had been successful in getting KUKA PURRAY and SAJJAD LONE to lock horns with their parent terrorist organisations despite them themselves being ex-terrorists. ZAKIR Musa may not be Doval's pawn but the way things have turned out in the valley it is trademark DOVAL style operation. Lol

Revoking art 370 is something not going to happen even if BJP wins 400 LS seats. Even Sikhs, Hindus, Buddhists in valley are supporting 370 and scrapping it will be alienating them.

What should we do is, instead grant more autonomy, like one country 2 system, in which Kashmir must generate own revenue to do its own works, and any money from India will be like loans, and in return Kashmir must set up its own citizen commission, rules to get Kashmiri citizenship, creating its own atmosphere of peace and all that.

I believe it will create peace on the long run. We all know Srinagar along with its adjoining 2 districts is the only source of trouble. Its a long process. Practically, I hear from top eminent lawyers that scrapping 370 will lead to questioning of JK Accession to India.

Kashmir is a place where India can NOT afford to experiment but take concrete actions.
Under an ideal scenario where politicians of the state are genuinely interested in the prosperity of the state, your suggestion would have worked. But let's not forget that Abdullahs and Muftis are only too happy to stoke fire in the valley for their own selfish reasons. Farooq Abdullah had escaped to U.K. when KPs were being mercilessly targeted in the valley.

To create revenue, the state needs more industries, but with art 370 preventing outsiders from buying land/properties in kashmir, which international or Indian company do you think would invest in kashmir?
Security concerns and failing economy adds to kashmir's woes. Only the central government can set things straight in the J&K.

And then again questioning J&K's accession should not be feared at all. Let not such thoughts ever mislead us. Hyderabad,Goa, Sikkim and many other states have merged well with India despite the initial resistance. Kashmir should also be treated like any other state in India. With vultures waiting to feed on Kashmir's carcass let's ensure that we come with fool proof ways of protecting the state and its people. JMHO!

This Dr. Zakir Naik you mention is a good man, but he doesn't know everything nor does he know politics.

In that case he should return to India and not fear any action.

 

[bhimram]

Kashmir is a place where India can NOT afford to experiment but take concrete actions.
Under an ideal scenario where politicians of the state are genuinely interested in the prosperity of the state, your suggestion would have worked. But let's not forget that Abdullahs and Muftis are only too happy to stoke fire in the valley for their own selfish reasons. Farooq Abdullah had escaped to U.K. when KPs were being mercilessly targeted in the valley.

To create revenue, the state needs more industries, but with art 370 preventing outsiders from buying land/properties in kashmir, which international or Indian company do you think would invest in kashmir?
Security concerns and failing economy adds to kashmir's woes. Only the central government can set things straight in the J&K.

And then again questioning J&K's accession should not be feared at all. Let not such thoughts ever mislead us. Hyderabad,Goa, Sikkim and many other states have merged well with India despite the initial resistance. Kashmir should also be treated like any other state in India. With vultures waiting to feed on Kashmir's carcass let's ensure that we come with fool proof ways of protecting the state and its people. JMHO!

I believe we are over analysing it.

Take the case of TG and AP. when it was bifurcated, AP people were against it, dead set against it. Yet it was done. The state govt had no say in the matter.

What did the people do? Grumble for few weeks and got back with their lives.

Except for valley, where they will shout Jihad no matter what, rest of the state, some people will grumble but the daily grind of life will hit them. Especially since removing 370 would remove a lot things that made J&K uncompetitive.

 

[Levina]

Take the case of TG and AP. when it was bifurcated, AP people were against it, dead set against it. Yet it was done. The state govt had no say in the matter.

That reminds me the state should be trifurcated (into Jammu,Ladakh and Kashmir), because, presently, all that money that gets pumped into J&K is splurged in the valley while ppl of Leh and Ladakh suffer.

 

[jetray]

That reminds me the state should be trifurcated into (Jammu,Ladakh and Kashmir), because, presently, all that money that gets pumped into J&K is splurged in the valley while ppl of Leh and Ladakh suffer.

Autonomy for the other regions is way to go. Isolate the trouble makers and make them rot in their own place. I feel sorry for the ppl in other two regions , why should they put up with such garbage? These morons in the valley can keep throwing stones or burn the valley down we shouldnt care to give a damn.

 

[Jacob Martin]

I dont a fuk about pans or ummah... And i def, dont a fuk about indian muslims (specially the kind that think that by talking against Pak they will be shown mercy by indians or they can prove their loyality) you got the wrong man.

Okay, I get it. So I assume that you don't support the Pakistani claim over Kashmir. Because apart from the religious angle, I am pretty sure you don't speak Dogri or drink Kahwa.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Okay, I get it. So I assume that you don't support the Pakistani claim over Kashmir. Because apart from the religious angle, I am pretty sure you don't speak Dogri or drink Kahwa.

Kashmiris arent indian.. and we consider them our own...

Also kiddo,Dogri is spoken by hindus of jammu not kashmiri muslims and Qehwa is part of our culture.

 

[bhimram]

Kashmiris arent indian.. and we consider them our own...

Also kiddo,Dogri is spoken by hindus of jammu not kashmiri muslims and Qehwa is part of our culture.

Really?
Wonder what the reason for genocide of Kashmiri Hindus was?

You ethnically cleanse 40% of your population and then the rest 60% claim they are doing this for freedom.
Even the most successful snake oil salesmen would find it hard to sell this garbage narrative.

IF any Kashmiri feels for any reason he does not like India, he can always GTFO. The land belongs to us. the Jihadis have lost the political narrative with ethnic cleansing of Hindus. Whether they live or die, we really don't give a fig. What matters to us is the land and we will settle our Hindu brethren back there AT ANY COST.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Thanks.
I haven't watched the episodes but I think I know about quiet a few of them.
On YouTube when I started watching one of its episodes it lead me to a video which was discussing Doval's victory in kashmir and how he had been successful in getting KUKA PURRAY and SAJJAD LONE to lock horns with their parent terrorist organisations despite them themselves being ex-terrorists. ZAKIR Musa may not be Doval's pawn but the way things have turned out in the valley it is trademark DOVAL style operation. Lol




Kashmir is a place where India can NOT afford to experiment but take concrete actions.
Under an ideal scenario where politicians of the state are genuinely interested in the prosperity of the state, your suggestion would have worked. But let's not forget that Abdullahs and Muftis are only too happy to stoke fire in the valley for their own selfish reasons. Farooq Abdullah had escaped to U.K. when KPs were being mercilessly targeted in the valley.

To create revenue, the state needs more industries, but with art 370 preventing outsiders from buying land/properties in kashmir, which international or Indian company do you think would invest in kashmir?
Security concerns and failing economy adds to kashmir's woes. Only the central government can set things straight in the J&K.

And then again questioning J&K's accession should not be feared at all. Let not such thoughts ever mislead us. Hyderabad,Goa, Sikkim and many other states have merged well with India despite the initial resistance. Kashmir should also be treated like any other state in India. With vultures waiting to feed on Kashmir's carcass let's ensure that we come with fool proof ways of protecting the state and its people. JMHO!


In that case he should return to India and not fear any action.

lol

Really?
Wonder what the reason for genocide of Kashmiri Hindus was?

You ethnically cleanse 40% of your population and then the rest 60% claim they are doing this for freedom.
Even the most successful snake oil salesmen would find it hard to sell this garbage narrative.

IF any Kashmiri feels for any reason he does not like India, he can always GTFO. The land belongs to us. the Jihadis have lost the political narrative with ethnic cleansing of Hindus. Whether they live or die, we really don't give a fig. What matters to us is the land and we will settle our Hindu brethren back there AT ANY COST.

lol, we will see if you have that land.