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My detailed reply to ZZH and his fan boy antics:

There is a reason dictators, fascists, hate clerics end up with murshids. Military men of the bygone era are far more fortunate. Many in Pakistan like ZZH still sing praises of the "golden era" when General Sahib ruled.

This requires careful dissection, and in order to do so you will have to tolerate a slightly long post otherwise I will not be able to do this subject justice. The old guard often reminisce about the days when land was milk and honey and our economy rivalled that of present day Malaysia.

Lets entertain ZZH's opening line about Ayub Khan. It is widely accepted by scholars of history in Pakistan that popular discourse about Gen. Ayub's era 1958-1969 was that of economic growth, prosperity and the growing stature of Pakistan on the world stage (ZZH eluded to this in his video at 04:24)!

However the realities of the time are much less glamorous, please entertain me for long enough to explain:

The economic growth, which many cite as his singular achievement, promoted the income inequalities resulting in the rise of the 20 influential families who controlled the nation's resources and amassed ill-gotten wealth, leaving the rest poor, hungry and resentful.

General Ayub's dramatic ascent to power in 1958 came after 10 years of political turmoil. From 1947 to 1958, Pakistan was governed by four heads of states and seven prime ministers.

Governor-General's:
Muhammad Ali Jinnah 14/08/1947 - 11/11/1948
Sir Khawaja Nazimuddin 11/11/1948 - 17/10/1951
Sir Ghulam Muhammad 17/10/1951 - 07/08/1955
Iskander Mirza 07/08/1955 - 23/03/1956

Presidents of Pakistan
Iskander Mirza 23/03/1956 - 27/10/1958
Ayub Khan 27/10/1958 - 08/06/1962
Fatima Jinnah 01/01/1965 - 31/01/1965
Mohd. Afzal Cheema 08/06/1962 - 29/11/1963
Fazlul Qadir Ch 29/11/1963 - 12/06/1965
Ayub Khan 12/06/1956 - 01/07/1967
Ayub Khan 01/07/1967 - 25/03/1969
Fatima Jinnah 01/07/1967 - 25/03/1969
Fatima Jinnah 25/03/1969 - 01/07/1969
Yahya Khan 25/03/1969 - 01/07/1969
Yahya Khan 01/07/1969 - 20/12/1971

Prime ministers of Pakistan:
Liaquat Ali Khan 14/08/1947 - 16/10/1951
Sir Khawja Nazimuddin 17/10/1951 - 17/04/1953
Mohd. Ali Bogra 17/04/1953 - 12/08/1955
Ch. Mohammad Ali 12/08/1955 - 12/09/1956
Huseyn Shurawardy 12/09/1956 - 17/10/1957
Ibrahim I Chundrigar 17/10/1957 - 11/12/1957
Sir Feroze Khan Noon 16/12/1957 - 07/10/1958

The political jostling for power incapacitated the then president, General Iskander Mirza, who suspended the parliament and appointed a new cabinet with General Ayub Khan as the new prime minister. However, within days, Ayub Khan turned the tables on General Mirza forcing him into a pensioned exile in London.

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General Ayub Khan declared himself the president of Pakistan on October 27 while he simultaneously held the office of the Chief Martial Law Administrator. In the General's words:

"Major General Iskander Mirza, lately President of Pakistan, has relinquished his office of President and has handed over all powers to me. Therefore, I have this night assumed the office of President and have taken upon myself the exercise of the said powers and all other powers appertaining thereto."

From the time he assumed control, General Ayub resented the public and the democratic process. For him, the public was too illiterate and poor to be trusted with adult franchise.

So he created an electorate ("basic democracy") of a few thousand of whom 95% elected the General as their leader.

That the same illiterate and poor people of Pakistan were wise enough to have voted earlier with their hearts, minds, and feet to create a new country that elevated the same General to the office of the army chief was not sufficient for them to have earned the General's trust for adult franchise.

General Ayub Khan held the politicians squarely responsible for the "chaotic internal situation" and accused them of being willing to barter the country "for personal gains". Beginning to sound familiar?

He was keen to imprison leading politicians in East and West Pakistan. The military dictators that came after him have held a similar contempt for politicians.

Shahid Javed Burki, a former World Bank economist, rightly identified the fundamental disconnect between the public and the Ayub Junta that celebrated 10-years of being in power by highlighting GDP growth and other inflated macroeconomic indicators.
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The general public, however, cared less of the aggregate statistics as they struggled without much success against price inflation and spatial income disparities. Burki points out that the so-called economic growth was rooted in income inequality, which worsened over time between regions and among people with the growth in the macroeconomy.

The result was evident: half of the industrial wealth accrued to Chinioties in Punjab and the immigrant Memons, Bohras, and Khojas.

At the same time, General Ayub opened the door to foreign experts who were ignorant of, and alien to, the political economy of Pakistan. Yet they came armed with policies that might have worked elsewhere but were ill-suited for Pakistan's challenges. General Ayub's economic prowess need not be discounted entirely. His penchant for central planning is evident in the second five-year plan.

The inflow of foreign capital, at twice the rate of that of India, sparked growth in industries that supported consumer goods. One must also review what drove the growth and what industrial sectors blossomed as a result.

A close look at what transpired reveals that there was nothing organic about the growth. It was primarily driven by foreign aid, the same way General Musharraf's rule was buttressed by American aid after 9/11.

By December 1961, foreign aid was more than twice the size of foreign loans. With the second five-year plan in 1964, foreign aid was responsible for 40% of the total investment.

And that's not all. Foreign aid covered 66% of the cost of imports. One must give credit where it's due, and it's mainly foreign aid.

Despite the foreign investment as aid and credit, and the aggressive public works programme pursued by the regime to generate new jobs, unemployment persisted, and even worsened during the second five year plan from 5.5 million man-years in 1960-1 to 5.8 million man-years in 1964-5 in East Pakistan.

The regime allocated twice as much for atomic energy than it did for technical training.

What about the rapid industrialisation undertook by the Ayub regime using foreign aid? As soon as the industries started generating revenue, the regime disposed of them to private investors.

During 1964-65, the loans and advances by the government to the private sector were twice the size of the direct investments by the industry.

However, profit-making units that should have been set up by the industry in the first place should have not been handed over to the industrialists as an unearned reward. People like ZZH who defend General Ayub Khan’s reign also hold false memories of peace and harmony. Do such claims withstand empirical scrutiny?

Raunaq Jahangir, quoted by Burki, demonstrated that violence, especially in East Pakistan, increased tremendously during the Ayub era. If there was peace and tranquillity in the sixties, why did the unrest in 1968-69 reach such a feverish pitch?

It was not the economic growth, but the increasing concentration of wealth and power in the hands of a few that irked the have-nots and fuelled violence.

A critical report by none other than Dr Mehboobul Haq, the then Deputy Chairman of the Planning Commission, revealed that a coterie of just 20 families controlled two-thirds of the industry and three-fourth of the banking.

See: https://www.nytimes.com/1998/07/17/world/mahbub-ul-haq-64-analyst-and-critic-of-global-poverty.html

Pakistan's poet laureate, Habib Jalib, could not ignore the injustice. His poetry galvanised the public as he recited poems at gatherings where tens-of-thousands heard him denounce the 20 nouveau riche, who became even richer at the cost of keeping millions poor.
Jalib wrote:

Biis gharanay hein abaad / Or karorron hein nashaad / Sadar Ayub Zindabad.

Of course Ayub Khan had a global fan base for there was no shortage of the high-profile admirers.
From de Gaulle of France to President Johnson of the United States, Western leaders were singing praise for the economic growth in Pakistan.

Even Robert McNamara, the then World Bank president, proclaimed that Pakistan under General Ayub was “one of the greatest successes of development in the world”.

However, experts were quick to point out that de Gaulle, Johnson, McNamara and others focused solely on growth and ignored the distribution of wealth resulting in income inequalities that sowed the seeds of discontent, violence, and ultimately caused the splitting of East and West Pakistan.

An oft-cited criticism of the former Prime Minister Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto (1971 - 77) is that he engineered Bangladesh's succession to avoid sharing with, or worse losing power to, the demographically dominant East Pakistan. However, it was General Ayub's years of preferred treatment of West Pakistan that irked East Pakistanis, who couldn't ignore the sustained rebukes when General Ayub placed three of the largest legacy projects, i.e., the construction of the new capital (Islamabad) and the two large hydel projects (Mangla and Tarbela) in West Pakistan. (ZZH didn't mention this in his video, but then again why would he when he is preaching to a selective crowd).

Furthermore, General Ayub never kept a confidante from East Pakistan as all the King’s men belonged to West Pakistan.

Land reforms were one of the cornerstones of General Ayub's socio-political reengineering that restricted the maximum size of land holdings to encourage a more equitable distribution of land and resources among the landless peasantry. The land reforms, however, achieved little in limiting the size of land holdings and limiting the political clout of the landed gentry. Instead, power and wealth concentrated further in the hands of the notorious 20 families.

The Ayub regime decided to limit land holdings to 500 acres of cultivated land, 1,000 acres of dry land, and 150 acres of orchards. Over 6,000 landowners exceeded the newly defined ceilings, owning 7.5 million acres of land.

The landowners though outsmarted the regime by transferring the land in advance to relatives so that ownership remained with the landed gentry. Thus, not much land was transferred to landless peasants.

Unlike General Ziaul Haq (1977-1988), who spent 11 years of his dictatorial rule to revert Pakistan back to a 7th-century medieval utopia, General Ayub was more of a modernist who was wary of the attempts to convert Pakistan into a desert kingdom of a bygone era.

He is once quotes as saying to leading clerics in a Madrasa:

"This I consider a great disservice to Islam, that such a noble religion should be represented as inimical to progress … In fact, it is great injustice to both life and religion to impose on twentieth century man the condition that he must go back several centuries in order to prove his bonafides as a true Muslim."

General Ayub's most significant and long lasting contribution is the promulgation of Muslim Family Laws Ordinance in 1961 that empowered women, especially in the matters of marriage and divorce. Though the commission that drafted the recommendations was constituted in 1954, the Ayub regime took steps to implement the laws empowering women.

Before the family laws were enacted, neither marriages or divorces were required to be registered with the state. This created severe hardships for divorced women, some of whom eventually remarried. Their former husbands could, and some even did out of malice, accuse them of adultery since the women lacked proof of divorce from the first husband. The new laws also required men who desired a second wife to seek formal consent from the first wife.

In summary, the acts and ordinances introduced by the Ayub regime discouraged polygyny, “protected the rights of wives and granted the rights of inheritance to grandchildren.” Despite his belief and the desire to modernise the society, General Ayub was quick to give into religious orthodoxy as long as the policy about-turns prolonged his control over power.

Sarfraz Husain Ansari documented the policy flip-flops as the General reinstated the restrictive clauses of the Objective Resolution in 1963, which had been expunged from the Constitution earlier.

Furthermore, while the 1962 Constitution used “Pakistan” as the official name, the General yielded to the religious forces and changed the country's name to “Islamic Republic of Pakistan” in December 1963.

Finally, the Advisory Council of Islamic Ideology, which does not miss an opportunity to embarrass Pakistanis by its archaic, and frequently misogynist, interpretations of Islam, is also a gift from General Ayub that keeps on giving.

Ab raaj karey gi khalq-i-khuda

Regardless of how efficient a military regime becomes, in the end, the protagonist has to surrender to the political process in the theatre of governance.

General Ayub was no exception.

Despite his misgivings about politicians and the political process, he joined a political party, the Conventional Muslim League, a version of which has always been available to Pakistan's military rulers as they struggle to transition out of the uniform.

General Ayub knew that joining the political party was no win for him. He explained the reason he acceded to a party was because he had “failed to play this game in accordance with my rules and so I have to play in accordance with their rules — and the rules demand that I belong to somebody, otherwise who is going to belong to me. So it is simple. It is an admission of defeat on my part anyway.”

One wonders if Generals Zia and Musharraf, who followed in General Ayub's footsteps, ever knew or understood his words.

At the end of the day, the right to rule belongs to the people, and it reverts to them regardless, for eternal victory belongs to them, and not to civilian or military dictators.
By 1968 his health was failing at the same time
, the opposition by Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto gained strength. On February 21, 1969, General Ayub threw in the towel declaring he would not seek re-election in 1970. By March, General Yahya Khan took control as the Chief Martial Law Administrator.

The repeated failed experiments of military rule in Pakistan make it abundantly clear that unlike other developing countries in the Middle East and in Southeast Asia where military dictators have enjoyed tremendous longevity, Pakistanis love independence and will not tolerate for long attempts to curb their political freedoms.

At the very onset of General Ayub's Martial Law, Justice M. R. Kiyani, the then Chief Justice of the West Pakistan High Court, articulated the very aspirations of freedom and independence of the people as he addressed the Bar Association in Karachi:

"There are quite a few thousand men who'd rather have the freedom of speech than a new pair of clothes and it is these who form a nation, not the office hunters, the license hunters, even the tillers of soil and drawers of water."

Just two days later, the Chief Justice was forced to tender an apology for offending army officers.


In closing:
Does all this sound familiar? Why would ZZH let facts come in the middle of a perfectly good bit of nonsense propaganda devoid of logic!
@LeGenD @Jango @The Eagle @PDF i respectfully and humbly petition that such divisive threads be prevented from creating traction, as we can see the observers from across the divide light sparklers and delight at our collective misery.


I respectfully request all Pakistani youth on PDF to actively and crticially study Pak Studies so that you can counter the enemies propaganda with knowledge and wisdom. As for what people think of Imran Khan, I believe this quote is sufficient
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”

Pakistan Zindabad!
 
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Maryam declares CJP a 'threat to national security', warns of political reaction​

PML-N leader says CJP lost dignity after becoming facilitator of a 'terrorist' who plays with country's destiny.

Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) Senior Vice President Maryam Nawaz has strongly criticised Chief Justice of Pakistan (CJP) Umar Ata Bandial, warning him to be prepared for a political reaction if he uses his position to serve the "political agenda" of former prime minister and Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) Chairman Imran Khan.

The hard-hitting reaction came after the Islamabad High Court (IHC) granted Imran Khan interim bail for two weeks in the Al-Qadir Trust case on Friday.

Later, the Pakistan Democratic Movement (PDM) — of whom the PML-N is also a part — announced that it will stage a protest demonstration in front of the Supreme Court on Monday over its "unjust behaviour".
 
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detailed analysis of CIA strategy
Brainless idiots can taunt this man, refuse accepting the reality, and throw their BS to deflect the focus. But the person is beautifully saying the reality. I wish I could describe it in such an elegant manner. In fact, he has spoken my heart out. I agree 100% with what he has said in this video.

Any sensible and knowledgeable person knows that whatever is currently going in Pakistan is a part of the bigger and greater game (i.e. the war of influence/control) being played/fought at the global level between the West and China. The mind-boggling pace of development and technological advancement that Chinese have exhibited in the past forty or so years has seriously worried the Western powers for the survival of their global dominance - in all three dimensions, i.e. political, economic, and military - and has forced them to chalk-out and execute a strategy to contain China at any price. The launch of CPEC project (as a flagship project of One Belt One Road or OBOR initiative) a decade ago poses as probably the most crucial front for the Western powers to be attacked/sabotaged. The reason being that it would not only provide China with an alternate and better trade route to the world but also it would facilitate China a better control and reach to vast areas of Asia and Africa. Americans wanted the CPEC stalled and ultimately failed to deprive China of a crucial leverage. Unfortunately for us Pakistanis, many regional countries (India, Iran, Gulfies, etc.) considered the CPEC being against their national interests in one way or the other.

Chinese now have gained enough regional/global clout that they were able to diplomatically diffuse some of the regional opposition to the CPEC by offering them their share of the pie (i.e. OBOR project) and so, as a result, world saw an unexpected and sudden Iran-Saudi rapprochement. However, much before that, America was able to stall the work on CPEC after the successful installation of PTI government in Pakistan (with full active support of some brainless military generals especially disgraced Bajwa and Faiz). This brainless idiot IK not only stalled all work on CPEC projects but also pushed Pakistan into a diplomatic isolation by annoying our closest friends (such as China and Saudi Arabia) with disgraceful offensives against these countries. The leadership of both these countries didn't publicly say a single word of complaint against the brainless dude IK (knowing fully well who has installed him in Pakistan) but they indeed reacted by pulling back their support to Pakistan. Our Chinese friends in the meantime, started working on the alternate (but less feasible) routes passing through Afghanistan and Iran. The stakes were highest for Pak military for obvious reasons. By the time army generals realized the damaged to CPEC projects caused by their Frankenstein and grave economic mismanagement and economic default appeared as writing on the wall, it was already too late. The poison created by systematically and consistently portraying the PMLN, PPP, and JUI as Chore and dakoo and presenting of a rotten and filthy personality IK as ameen and sadiq, the public mind had already became a victim of the falsehood - deeply and severely - especially for youth and ladies of well-off echelons of the society (e.g bureaucracy, khaki officers, and judges, etc.) The public anger was intentionally diverted towards PMLN and PPP despite the fact that the biggest chore and looters happen to be among these higher echelons of the bureaucracy, khaki officers, and judges. You investigate any mega corruption case in Pakistan even of a politician, you'll find one or more these characters playing the crucial role in that scandal. Anyhow, the situation got to a point that it was almost imminent for Pakistan to default. The military, as an institution, had already decided not to indulge in politics after seeing the disaster brought by their filthy creature. And yet Bajwa and Faiz kept doing that for their own reasons. Bajwa, like a bad bulldog having tasted blood, wanted another extension, Faiz wanted to be nect army chief and so much so even Bandial wanted to eat his share in the shit by getting an extension (by tenure or extension in age limit). Everyone was playing the game for the personal gain at the cost of nation's best interest.

After the disgraceful removal of IK government in a constitutional move, the new government focused on the drowning economy but was able to do that up to a limited extent. At least Pakistan didn't default. However, the SS government was able to get Chinese willing to resume their work on the CPEC projects. How can that be acceptable to Westerners. So, we see that IK and his gang of criminals started continuously pushing this country into political turmoil. Such an environment acts as a poison for economic activity and hence we see our economy not getting a foothold despite so much efforts from the government. On top of all that, IMF is continuously changing the goal post, demanding for unprecedented actions, and still not willing to sign even the staff level agreement with Pakistan. All that is seemingly aimed at bringing Pakistan to its knees and also blocking Chinese progress on OBOR initiative.

I wouldn't be so much hurt by the role and blackmail of a bloody crook IK and his masters in the west as I am really pained by the lack of any prudence by the PTI supporters. Even IK's agenda and actions have fully exposed PTI's real goals and still PTI supporters try to justify IK's actions by using skewed logic and naked shamelessness. I feel that all western assets in (and out of) Pakistan are really active at this moment to keep Pakistan hanging on the brink. It wouldn't be a surprise for us if the terrorist attacks by the terrorists of TTP, Bloch terrorist organizations, and PTI terrorists get more frequently and more deadly. Stakes are extremely high for the Western powers - their global dominance is at risk. This is a fight between global powers for which Pakistan is unwillingly serving as the battlefield. We Pakistanis are bearing all the death and destruction of this fight even though we are not waging any war against anyone. We merely want to be a peaceful part of the global trade and that, like any other country of the world, is our right.

This is the time that we solidly stand behind our army. instead of asking them to do unconstitutional role (for removing the current elected government and installing IK yet once more), we need to support them in their stand to stay within their constitutional limits. Gen. Syed Asim Munir was appointed by the PM of Pakistan following due process. Brainless and selfish IK making that appointment disputed is like showing his disregard for the law, his enemosity towards this nation, and his evil desire of a civil war in Pakistan. This evil filthy person is on a mission to make Pakistan a failed state allowing his masters to de-nuke this country and then finally disintegrate it to permanently block and contain China. It's a time pondering for us all Pakistanis why we get divided by this evil person (and fall to non-existence) by not supporting our own army. All those idiots who want to disgrace, disband, or cripple Pak army, would be serving as the feet lickers of their Hindu masters while their daughters would be giving births to the babies of those Hindu masters.
 
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My detailed reply to ZZH and his fan boy antics:

There is a reason dictators, fascists, hate clerics end up with murshids. Military men of the bygone era are far more fortunate. Many in Pakistan like ZZH still sing praises of the "golden era" when General Sahib ruled.

This requires careful dissection, and in order to do so you will have to tolerate a slightly long post otherwise I will not be able to do this subject justice. The old guard often reminisce about the days when land was milk and honey and our economy rivalled that of present day Malaysia.

Lets entertain ZZH's opening line about Ayub Khan. It is widely accepted by scholars of history in Pakistan that popular discourse about Gen. Ayub's era 1958-1969 was that of economic growth, prosperity and the growing stature of Pakistan on the world stage (ZZH eluded to this in his video at 04:24)!

However the realities of the time are much less glamorous, please entertain me for long enough to explain:

The economic growth, which many cite as his singular achievement, promoted the income inequalities resulting in the rise of the 20 influential families who controlled the nation's resources and amassed ill-gotten wealth, leaving the rest poor, hungry and resentful.

General Ayub's dramatic ascent to power in 1958 came after 10 years of political turmoil. From 1947 to 1958, Pakistan was governed by four heads of states and seven prime ministers.

Governor-General's:
Muhammad Ali Jinnah 14/08/1947 - 11/11/1948
Sir Khawaja Nazimuddin 11/11/1948 - 17/10/1951
Sir Ghulam Muhammad 17/10/1951 - 07/08/1955
Iskander Mirza 07/08/1955 - 23/03/1956

Presidents of Pakistan
Iskander Mirza 23/03/1956 - 27/10/1958
Ayub Khan 27/10/1958 - 08/06/1962
Fatima Jinnah 01/01/1965 - 31/01/1965
Mohd. Afzal Cheema 08/06/1962 - 29/11/1963
Fazlul Qadir Ch 29/11/1963 - 12/06/1965
Ayub Khan 12/06/1956 - 01/07/1967
Ayub Khan 01/07/1967 - 25/03/1969
Fatima Jinnah 01/07/1967 - 25/03/1969
Fatima Jinnah 25/03/1969 - 01/07/1969
Yahya Khan 25/03/1969 - 01/07/1969
Yahya Khan 01/07/1969 - 20/12/1971

Prime ministers of Pakistan:
Liaquat Ali Khan 14/08/1947 - 16/10/1951
Sir Khawja Nazimuddin 17/10/1951 - 17/04/1953
Mohd. Ali Bogra 17/04/1953 - 12/08/1955
Ch. Mohammad Ali 12/08/1955 - 12/09/1956
Huseyn Shurawardy 12/09/1956 - 17/10/1957
Ibrahim I Chundrigar 17/10/1957 - 11/12/1957
Sir Feroze Khan Noon 16/12/1957 - 07/10/1958

The political jostling for power incapacitated the then president, General Iskander Mirza, who suspended the parliament and appointed a new cabinet with General Ayub Khan as the new prime minister. However, within days, Ayub Khan turned the tables on General Mirza forcing him into a pensioned exile in London.

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General Ayub Khan declared himself the president of Pakistan on October 27 while he simultaneously held the office of the Chief Martial Law Administrator. In the General's words:

"Major General Iskander Mirza, lately President of Pakistan, has relinquished his office of President and has handed over all powers to me. Therefore, I have this night assumed the office of President and have taken upon myself the exercise of the said powers and all other powers appertaining thereto."

From the time he assumed control, General Ayub resented the public and the democratic process. For him, the public was too illiterate and poor to be trusted with adult franchise.

So he created an electorate ("basic democracy") of a few thousand of whom 95% elected the General as their leader.

That the same illiterate and poor people of Pakistan were wise enough to have voted earlier with their hearts, minds, and feet to create a new country that elevated the same General to the office of the army chief was not sufficient for them to have earned the General's trust for adult franchise.

General Ayub Khan held the politicians squarely responsible for the "chaotic internal situation" and accused them of being willing to barter the country "for personal gains". Beginning to sound familiar?

He was keen to imprison leading politicians in East and West Pakistan. The military dictators that came after him have held a similar contempt for politicians.

Shahid Javed Burki, a former World Bank economist, rightly identified the fundamental disconnect between the public and the Ayub Junta that celebrated 10-years of being in power by highlighting GDP growth and other inflated macroeconomic indicators.
9780813336213.jpg

The general public, however, cared less of the aggregate statistics as they struggled without much success against price inflation and spatial income disparities. Burki points out that the so-called economic growth was rooted in income inequality, which worsened over time between regions and among people with the growth in the macroeconomy.

The result was evident: half of the industrial wealth accrued to Chinioties in Punjab and the immigrant Memons, Bohras, and Khojas.

At the same time, General Ayub opened the door to foreign experts who were ignorant of, and alien to, the political economy of Pakistan. Yet they came armed with policies that might have worked elsewhere but were ill-suited for Pakistan's challenges. General Ayub's economic prowess need not be discounted entirely. His penchant for central planning is evident in the second five-year plan.

The inflow of foreign capital, at twice the rate of that of India, sparked growth in industries that supported consumer goods. One must also review what drove the growth and what industrial sectors blossomed as a result.

A close look at what transpired reveals that there was nothing organic about the growth. It was primarily driven by foreign aid, the same way General Musharraf's rule was buttressed by American aid after 9/11.

By December 1961, foreign aid was more than twice the size of foreign loans. With the second five-year plan in 1964, foreign aid was responsible for 40% of the total investment.

And that's not all. Foreign aid covered 66% of the cost of imports. One must give credit where it's due, and it's mainly foreign aid.

Despite the foreign investment as aid and credit, and the aggressive public works programme pursued by the regime to generate new jobs, unemployment persisted, and even worsened during the second five year plan from 5.5 million man-years in 1960-1 to 5.8 million man-years in 1964-5 in East Pakistan.

The regime allocated twice as much for atomic energy than it did for technical training.

What about the rapid industrialisation undertook by the Ayub regime using foreign aid? As soon as the industries started generating revenue, the regime disposed of them to private investors.

During 1964-65, the loans and advances by the government to the private sector were twice the size of the direct investments by the industry.

However, profit-making units that should have been set up by the industry in the first place should have not been handed over to the industrialists as an unearned reward. People like ZZH who defend General Ayub Khan’s reign also hold false memories of peace and harmony. Do such claims withstand empirical scrutiny?

Raunaq Jahangir, quoted by Burki, demonstrated that violence, especially in East Pakistan, increased tremendously during the Ayub era. If there was peace and tranquillity in the sixties, why did the unrest in 1968-69 reach such a feverish pitch?

It was not the economic growth, but the increasing concentration of wealth and power in the hands of a few that irked the have-nots and fuelled violence.

A critical report by none other than Dr Mehboobul Haq, the then Deputy Chairman of the Planning Commission, revealed that a coterie of just 20 families controlled two-thirds of the industry and three-fourth of the banking.

See: https://www.nytimes.com/1998/07/17/world/mahbub-ul-haq-64-analyst-and-critic-of-global-poverty.html

Pakistan's poet laureate, Habib Jalib, could not ignore the injustice. His poetry galvanised the public as he recited poems at gatherings where tens-of-thousands heard him denounce the 20 nouveau riche, who became even richer at the cost of keeping millions poor.
Jalib wrote:

Biis gharanay hein abaad / Or karorron hein nashaad / Sadar Ayub Zindabad.

Of course Ayub Khan had a global fan base for there was no shortage of the high-profile admirers.
From de Gaulle of France to President Johnson of the United States, Western leaders were singing praise for the economic growth in Pakistan.

Even Robert McNamara, the then World Bank president, proclaimed that Pakistan under General Ayub was “one of the greatest successes of development in the world”.

However, experts were quick to point out that de Gaulle, Johnson, McNamara and others focused solely on growth and ignored the distribution of wealth resulting in income inequalities that sowed the seeds of discontent, violence, and ultimately caused the splitting of East and West Pakistan.

An oft-cited criticism of the former Prime Minister Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto (1971 - 77) is that he engineered Bangladesh's succession to avoid sharing with, or worse losing power to, the demographically dominant East Pakistan. However, it was General Ayub's years of preferred treatment of West Pakistan that irked East Pakistanis, who couldn't ignore the sustained rebukes when General Ayub placed three of the largest legacy projects, i.e., the construction of the new capital (Islamabad) and the two large hydel projects (Mangla and Tarbela) in West Pakistan. (ZZH didn't mention this in his video, but then again why would he when he is preaching to a selective crowd).

Furthermore, General Ayub never kept a confidante from East Pakistan as all the King’s men belonged to West Pakistan.

Land reforms were one of the cornerstones of General Ayub's socio-political reengineering that restricted the maximum size of land holdings to encourage a more equitable distribution of land and resources among the landless peasantry. The land reforms, however, achieved little in limiting the size of land holdings and limiting the political clout of the landed gentry. Instead, power and wealth concentrated further in the hands of the notorious 20 families.

The Ayub regime decided to limit land holdings to 500 acres of cultivated land, 1,000 acres of dry land, and 150 acres of orchards. Over 6,000 landowners exceeded the newly defined ceilings, owning 7.5 million acres of land.

The landowners though outsmarted the regime by transferring the land in advance to relatives so that ownership remained with the landed gentry. Thus, not much land was transferred to landless peasants.

Unlike General Ziaul Haq (1977-1988), who spent 11 years of his dictatorial rule to revert Pakistan back to a 7th-century medieval utopia, General Ayub was more of a modernist who was wary of the attempts to convert Pakistan into a desert kingdom of a bygone era.

He is once quotes as saying to leading clerics in a Madrasa:

"This I consider a great disservice to Islam, that such a noble religion should be represented as inimical to progress … In fact, it is great injustice to both life and religion to impose on twentieth century man the condition that he must go back several centuries in order to prove his bonafides as a true Muslim."

General Ayub's most significant and long lasting contribution is the promulgation of Muslim Family Laws Ordinance in 1961 that empowered women, especially in the matters of marriage and divorce. Though the commission that drafted the recommendations was constituted in 1954, the Ayub regime took steps to implement the laws empowering women.

Before the family laws were enacted, neither marriages or divorces were required to be registered with the state. This created severe hardships for divorced women, some of whom eventually remarried. Their former husbands could, and some even did out of malice, accuse them of adultery since the women lacked proof of divorce from the first husband. The new laws also required men who desired a second wife to seek formal consent from the first wife.

In summary, the acts and ordinances introduced by the Ayub regime discouraged polygyny, “protected the rights of wives and granted the rights of inheritance to grandchildren.” Despite his belief and the desire to modernise the society, General Ayub was quick to give into religious orthodoxy as long as the policy about-turns prolonged his control over power.

Sarfraz Husain Ansari documented the policy flip-flops as the General reinstated the restrictive clauses of the Objective Resolution in 1963, which had been expunged from the Constitution earlier.

Furthermore, while the 1962 Constitution used “Pakistan” as the official name, the General yielded to the religious forces and changed the country's name to “Islamic Republic of Pakistan” in December 1963.

Finally, the Advisory Council of Islamic Ideology, which does not miss an opportunity to embarrass Pakistanis by its archaic, and frequently misogynist, interpretations of Islam, is also a gift from General Ayub that keeps on giving.

Ab raaj karey gi khalq-i-khuda

Regardless of how efficient a military regime becomes, in the end, the protagonist has to surrender to the political process in the theatre of governance.

General Ayub was no exception.

Despite his misgivings about politicians and the political process, he joined a political party, the Conventional Muslim League, a version of which has always been available to Pakistan's military rulers as they struggle to transition out of the uniform.

General Ayub knew that joining the political party was no win for him. He explained the reason he acceded to a party was because he had “failed to play this game in accordance with my rules and so I have to play in accordance with their rules — and the rules demand that I belong to somebody, otherwise who is going to belong to me. So it is simple. It is an admission of defeat on my part anyway.”

One wonders if Generals Zia and Musharraf, who followed in General Ayub's footsteps, ever knew or understood his words.

At the end of the day, the right to rule belongs to the people, and it reverts to them regardless, for eternal victory belongs to them, and not to civilian or military dictators.
By 1968 his health was failing at the same time
, the opposition by Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto gained strength. On February 21, 1969, General Ayub threw in the towel declaring he would not seek re-election in 1970. By March, General Yahya Khan took control as the Chief Martial Law Administrator.

The repeated failed experiments of military rule in Pakistan make it abundantly clear that unlike other developing countries in the Middle East and in Southeast Asia where military dictators have enjoyed tremendous longevity, Pakistanis love independence and will not tolerate for long attempts to curb their political freedoms.

At the very onset of General Ayub's Martial Law, Justice M. R. Kiyani, the then Chief Justice of the West Pakistan High Court, articulated the very aspirations of freedom and independence of the people as he addressed the Bar Association in Karachi:

"There are quite a few thousand men who'd rather have the freedom of speech than a new pair of clothes and it is these who form a nation, not the office hunters, the license hunters, even the tillers of soil and drawers of water."

Just two days later, the Chief Justice was forced to tender an apology for offending army officers.


In closing:
Does all this sound familiar? Why would ZZH let facts come in the middle of a perfectly good bit of nonsense propaganda devoid of logic!
@LeGenD @Jango @The Eagle @PDF i respectfully and humbly petition that such divisive threads be prevented from creating traction, as we can see the observers from across the divide light sparklers and delight at our collective misery.


I respectfully request all Pakistani youth on PDF to actively and crticially study Pak Studies so that you can counter the enemies propaganda with knowledge and wisdom. As for what people think of Imran Khan, I believe this quote is sufficient
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”

Pakistan Zindabad!

Excellent one. The reason why I request our members every time to contest in discussion with facts & counter arguments supported with references as well.

Just today, when I saw an article about inflation going up-to 47% record high, I thought that most of economic burden is on the majority Pakistanis living now below Middle Class income criteria. Since we have a majority lower middle class population, they have to take the brunt of such disastrous economic policies whereby the particular rich families are getting more of their share which is paid by the same majority. These economic hitmen are keep coming with idea of crucial times and we need to stand together as a nation in such times which is nothing but to arrange more sacrifices for the survival of top businessmen families.

Whether a hike of 1 rupee or more; Pakistanis shall understand that it has to be paid by them and not the elites. Elites are here to earn and save more since the supply chain, whether production or import or even transportation of goods, all are done by the same families. Factories belongs to the same elites. Legislators are from the same families. Bureaucracy belongs to the same families and so the power struggle in Pakistan.

ZZH is nothing but a mouthpiece speaking of those old practices whereby people will have to work like machines so that self claimed righteous people can live in luxury. At-least I will advice such a person to keep himself with tactical yoga lectures and whatever can show him like a warrior. I still remember when he was promoting a Qadyani and even appointed himself his Khalifa. Used to preach and mislead people through gatherings in some bungalows in Nursery area of Karachi. Since this is a forum where everyone appears to discuss different topics, he is being paid such an attention otherwise, he is long ignored.

However, when it comes to any point where Pakistan can be harmed or at-least the power which is public in-fact, can be misled; even the enemy will promote such people from within. Whether it is pro or anti establishment, the point is, they will support anything which can cause divide and chaos within society. ZZH type tools are good at times to distract uninformed lower middle class that believes everything on whatsapp or mostly facebook.

However, as you suggested, we must continue with our responsibility to expose propaganda but that shall be done with civility, facts & right information.

Regards,
 
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Zaid Hamid has to sing praises of the Army and ISI as he receives a salary of 7 lakh rupees
per month from them.

I used to listen to him before, now I don't bother with as he is just an Army tout.
 
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Zaid Hamid has to sing praises of the Army and ISI as he receives a salary of 7 lakh rupees
per month from them.

I used to listen to him before, now I don't bother with as he is just an Army tout.
Any evidence? Or you're farting from mouth like most of idiot youth****?
 
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detailed analysis of CIA strategy
اس جیسے لوگوں کو یہ پتہ ہونا چاہئے، کہ پاکستان الیکشن سے نہیں، انصاف کے فقدان سے ٹوٹا۔ بنگالیوں کو حکومت دے دیتے، نہیں ٹوٹتا پاکستان۔
 
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Any evidence? Or you're farting from mouth like most of idiot youth****?

There was 1 guy who left him and came on media about him receiving payments from ISI.
I think they guys name is Imad.
 
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Any evidence? Or you're farting from mouth like most of idiot youth****?
ZZH's family and my family were pretty close. I have known him in a professional capacity from 2001 when he first started BrassTacks consultancy. I was a fan of his back in those days, but after 2008 my impression of him changed dramatically when certain truths came to light. He is not who he claims to be. I have enough information to speak in detail about his wealth, his business, his interests and his financiers but I am not in the business of doxing or "outing" people on a public forum.

Allah has a plan for all of us.
 
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My detailed reply to ZZH and his fan boy antics:

There is a reason dictators, fascists, hate clerics end up with murshids. Military men of the bygone era are far more fortunate. Many in Pakistan like ZZH still sing praises of the "golden era" when General Sahib ruled.

This requires careful dissection, and in order to do so you will have to tolerate a slightly long post otherwise I will not be able to do this subject justice. The old guard often reminisce about the days when land was milk and honey and our economy rivalled that of present day Malaysia.

Lets entertain ZZH's opening line about Ayub Khan. It is widely accepted by scholars of history in Pakistan that popular discourse about Gen. Ayub's era 1958-1969 was that of economic growth, prosperity and the growing stature of Pakistan on the world stage (ZZH eluded to this in his video at 04:24)!

However the realities of the time are much less glamorous, please entertain me for long enough to explain:

The economic growth, which many cite as his singular achievement, promoted the income inequalities resulting in the rise of the 20 influential families who controlled the nation's resources and amassed ill-gotten wealth, leaving the rest poor, hungry and resentful.

General Ayub's dramatic ascent to power in 1958 came after 10 years of political turmoil. From 1947 to 1958, Pakistan was governed by four heads of states and seven prime ministers.

Governor-General's:
Muhammad Ali Jinnah 14/08/1947 - 11/11/1948
Sir Khawaja Nazimuddin 11/11/1948 - 17/10/1951
Sir Ghulam Muhammad 17/10/1951 - 07/08/1955
Iskander Mirza 07/08/1955 - 23/03/1956

Presidents of Pakistan
Iskander Mirza 23/03/1956 - 27/10/1958
Ayub Khan 27/10/1958 - 08/06/1962
Fatima Jinnah 01/01/1965 - 31/01/1965
Mohd. Afzal Cheema 08/06/1962 - 29/11/1963
Fazlul Qadir Ch 29/11/1963 - 12/06/1965
Ayub Khan 12/06/1956 - 01/07/1967
Ayub Khan 01/07/1967 - 25/03/1969
Fatima Jinnah 01/07/1967 - 25/03/1969
Fatima Jinnah 25/03/1969 - 01/07/1969
Yahya Khan 25/03/1969 - 01/07/1969
Yahya Khan 01/07/1969 - 20/12/1971

Prime ministers of Pakistan:
Liaquat Ali Khan 14/08/1947 - 16/10/1951
Sir Khawja Nazimuddin 17/10/1951 - 17/04/1953
Mohd. Ali Bogra 17/04/1953 - 12/08/1955
Ch. Mohammad Ali 12/08/1955 - 12/09/1956
Huseyn Shurawardy 12/09/1956 - 17/10/1957
Ibrahim I Chundrigar 17/10/1957 - 11/12/1957
Sir Feroze Khan Noon 16/12/1957 - 07/10/1958

The political jostling for power incapacitated the then president, General Iskander Mirza, who suspended the parliament and appointed a new cabinet with General Ayub Khan as the new prime minister. However, within days, Ayub Khan turned the tables on General Mirza forcing him into a pensioned exile in London.

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General Ayub Khan declared himself the president of Pakistan on October 27 while he simultaneously held the office of the Chief Martial Law Administrator. In the General's words:

"Major General Iskander Mirza, lately President of Pakistan, has relinquished his office of President and has handed over all powers to me. Therefore, I have this night assumed the office of President and have taken upon myself the exercise of the said powers and all other powers appertaining thereto."

From the time he assumed control, General Ayub resented the public and the democratic process. For him, the public was too illiterate and poor to be trusted with adult franchise.

So he created an electorate ("basic democracy") of a few thousand of whom 95% elected the General as their leader.

That the same illiterate and poor people of Pakistan were wise enough to have voted earlier with their hearts, minds, and feet to create a new country that elevated the same General to the office of the army chief was not sufficient for them to have earned the General's trust for adult franchise.

General Ayub Khan held the politicians squarely responsible for the "chaotic internal situation" and accused them of being willing to barter the country "for personal gains". Beginning to sound familiar?

He was keen to imprison leading politicians in East and West Pakistan. The military dictators that came after him have held a similar contempt for politicians.

Shahid Javed Burki, a former World Bank economist, rightly identified the fundamental disconnect between the public and the Ayub Junta that celebrated 10-years of being in power by highlighting GDP growth and other inflated macroeconomic indicators.
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The general public, however, cared less of the aggregate statistics as they struggled without much success against price inflation and spatial income disparities. Burki points out that the so-called economic growth was rooted in income inequality, which worsened over time between regions and among people with the growth in the macroeconomy.

The result was evident: half of the industrial wealth accrued to Chinioties in Punjab and the immigrant Memons, Bohras, and Khojas.

At the same time, General Ayub opened the door to foreign experts who were ignorant of, and alien to, the political economy of Pakistan. Yet they came armed with policies that might have worked elsewhere but were ill-suited for Pakistan's challenges. General Ayub's economic prowess need not be discounted entirely. His penchant for central planning is evident in the second five-year plan.

The inflow of foreign capital, at twice the rate of that of India, sparked growth in industries that supported consumer goods. One must also review what drove the growth and what industrial sectors blossomed as a result.

A close look at what transpired reveals that there was nothing organic about the growth. It was primarily driven by foreign aid, the same way General Musharraf's rule was buttressed by American aid after 9/11.

By December 1961, foreign aid was more than twice the size of foreign loans. With the second five-year plan in 1964, foreign aid was responsible for 40% of the total investment.

And that's not all. Foreign aid covered 66% of the cost of imports. One must give credit where it's due, and it's mainly foreign aid.

Despite the foreign investment as aid and credit, and the aggressive public works programme pursued by the regime to generate new jobs, unemployment persisted, and even worsened during the second five year plan from 5.5 million man-years in 1960-1 to 5.8 million man-years in 1964-5 in East Pakistan.

The regime allocated twice as much for atomic energy than it did for technical training.

What about the rapid industrialisation undertook by the Ayub regime using foreign aid? As soon as the industries started generating revenue, the regime disposed of them to private investors.

During 1964-65, the loans and advances by the government to the private sector were twice the size of the direct investments by the industry.

However, profit-making units that should have been set up by the industry in the first place should have not been handed over to the industrialists as an unearned reward. People like ZZH who defend General Ayub Khan’s reign also hold false memories of peace and harmony. Do such claims withstand empirical scrutiny?

Raunaq Jahangir, quoted by Burki, demonstrated that violence, especially in East Pakistan, increased tremendously during the Ayub era. If there was peace and tranquillity in the sixties, why did the unrest in 1968-69 reach such a feverish pitch?

It was not the economic growth, but the increasing concentration of wealth and power in the hands of a few that irked the have-nots and fuelled violence.

A critical report by none other than Dr Mehboobul Haq, the then Deputy Chairman of the Planning Commission, revealed that a coterie of just 20 families controlled two-thirds of the industry and three-fourth of the banking.

See: https://www.nytimes.com/1998/07/17/world/mahbub-ul-haq-64-analyst-and-critic-of-global-poverty.html

Pakistan's poet laureate, Habib Jalib, could not ignore the injustice. His poetry galvanised the public as he recited poems at gatherings where tens-of-thousands heard him denounce the 20 nouveau riche, who became even richer at the cost of keeping millions poor.
Jalib wrote:

Biis gharanay hein abaad / Or karorron hein nashaad / Sadar Ayub Zindabad.

Of course Ayub Khan had a global fan base for there was no shortage of the high-profile admirers.
From de Gaulle of France to President Johnson of the United States, Western leaders were singing praise for the economic growth in Pakistan.

Even Robert McNamara, the then World Bank president, proclaimed that Pakistan under General Ayub was “one of the greatest successes of development in the world”.

However, experts were quick to point out that de Gaulle, Johnson, McNamara and others focused solely on growth and ignored the distribution of wealth resulting in income inequalities that sowed the seeds of discontent, violence, and ultimately caused the splitting of East and West Pakistan.

An oft-cited criticism of the former Prime Minister Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto (1971 - 77) is that he engineered Bangladesh's succession to avoid sharing with, or worse losing power to, the demographically dominant East Pakistan. However, it was General Ayub's years of preferred treatment of West Pakistan that irked East Pakistanis, who couldn't ignore the sustained rebukes when General Ayub placed three of the largest legacy projects, i.e., the construction of the new capital (Islamabad) and the two large hydel projects (Mangla and Tarbela) in West Pakistan. (ZZH didn't mention this in his video, but then again why would he when he is preaching to a selective crowd).

Furthermore, General Ayub never kept a confidante from East Pakistan as all the King’s men belonged to West Pakistan.

Land reforms were one of the cornerstones of General Ayub's socio-political reengineering that restricted the maximum size of land holdings to encourage a more equitable distribution of land and resources among the landless peasantry. The land reforms, however, achieved little in limiting the size of land holdings and limiting the political clout of the landed gentry. Instead, power and wealth concentrated further in the hands of the notorious 20 families.

The Ayub regime decided to limit land holdings to 500 acres of cultivated land, 1,000 acres of dry land, and 150 acres of orchards. Over 6,000 landowners exceeded the newly defined ceilings, owning 7.5 million acres of land.

The landowners though outsmarted the regime by transferring the land in advance to relatives so that ownership remained with the landed gentry. Thus, not much land was transferred to landless peasants.

Unlike General Ziaul Haq (1977-1988), who spent 11 years of his dictatorial rule to revert Pakistan back to a 7th-century medieval utopia, General Ayub was more of a modernist who was wary of the attempts to convert Pakistan into a desert kingdom of a bygone era.

He is once quotes as saying to leading clerics in a Madrasa:

"This I consider a great disservice to Islam, that such a noble religion should be represented as inimical to progress … In fact, it is great injustice to both life and religion to impose on twentieth century man the condition that he must go back several centuries in order to prove his bonafides as a true Muslim."

General Ayub's most significant and long lasting contribution is the promulgation of Muslim Family Laws Ordinance in 1961 that empowered women, especially in the matters of marriage and divorce. Though the commission that drafted the recommendations was constituted in 1954, the Ayub regime took steps to implement the laws empowering women.

Before the family laws were enacted, neither marriages or divorces were required to be registered with the state. This created severe hardships for divorced women, some of whom eventually remarried. Their former husbands could, and some even did out of malice, accuse them of adultery since the women lacked proof of divorce from the first husband. The new laws also required men who desired a second wife to seek formal consent from the first wife.

In summary, the acts and ordinances introduced by the Ayub regime discouraged polygyny, “protected the rights of wives and granted the rights of inheritance to grandchildren.” Despite his belief and the desire to modernise the society, General Ayub was quick to give into religious orthodoxy as long as the policy about-turns prolonged his control over power.

Sarfraz Husain Ansari documented the policy flip-flops as the General reinstated the restrictive clauses of the Objective Resolution in 1963, which had been expunged from the Constitution earlier.

Furthermore, while the 1962 Constitution used “Pakistan” as the official name, the General yielded to the religious forces and changed the country's name to “Islamic Republic of Pakistan” in December 1963.

Finally, the Advisory Council of Islamic Ideology, which does not miss an opportunity to embarrass Pakistanis by its archaic, and frequently misogynist, interpretations of Islam, is also a gift from General Ayub that keeps on giving.

Ab raaj karey gi khalq-i-khuda

Regardless of how efficient a military regime becomes, in the end, the protagonist has to surrender to the political process in the theatre of governance.

General Ayub was no exception.

Despite his misgivings about politicians and the political process, he joined a political party, the Conventional Muslim League, a version of which has always been available to Pakistan's military rulers as they struggle to transition out of the uniform.

General Ayub knew that joining the political party was no win for him. He explained the reason he acceded to a party was because he had “failed to play this game in accordance with my rules and so I have to play in accordance with their rules — and the rules demand that I belong to somebody, otherwise who is going to belong to me. So it is simple. It is an admission of defeat on my part anyway.”

One wonders if Generals Zia and Musharraf, who followed in General Ayub's footsteps, ever knew or understood his words.

At the end of the day, the right to rule belongs to the people, and it reverts to them regardless, for eternal victory belongs to them, and not to civilian or military dictators.
By 1968 his health was failing at the same time
, the opposition by Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto gained strength. On February 21, 1969, General Ayub threw in the towel declaring he would not seek re-election in 1970. By March, General Yahya Khan took control as the Chief Martial Law Administrator.

The repeated failed experiments of military rule in Pakistan make it abundantly clear that unlike other developing countries in the Middle East and in Southeast Asia where military dictators have enjoyed tremendous longevity, Pakistanis love independence and will not tolerate for long attempts to curb their political freedoms.

At the very onset of General Ayub's Martial Law, Justice M. R. Kiyani, the then Chief Justice of the West Pakistan High Court, articulated the very aspirations of freedom and independence of the people as he addressed the Bar Association in Karachi:

"There are quite a few thousand men who'd rather have the freedom of speech than a new pair of clothes and it is these who form a nation, not the office hunters, the license hunters, even the tillers of soil and drawers of water."

Just two days later, the Chief Justice was forced to tender an apology for offending army officers.


In closing:
Does all this sound familiar? Why would ZZH let facts come in the middle of a perfectly good bit of nonsense propaganda devoid of logic!
@LeGenD @Jango @The Eagle @PDF i respectfully and humbly petition that such divisive threads be prevented from creating traction, as we can see the observers from across the divide light sparklers and delight at our collective misery.


I respectfully request all Pakistani youth on PDF to actively and crticially study Pak Studies so that you can counter the enemies propaganda with knowledge and wisdom. As for what people think of Imran Khan, I believe this quote is sufficient
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”

Pakistan Zindabad!
I am surprised who listen this guy.....from day one he seems abnormal to me..
 
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You have a point.

Yes, the Establishment is not a one man show as some assume here. But bilateral relations with China are well-managed on the whole.

But economic benefits have missed the mark due to sheer volume of imports.
If you ask former corps commanders
The would say it's the chief decision though he will take the majority opinion in his mind.

Basically it's like Italian Mafia where the don makes decisions but listens to his underdogs corps commanders
 
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