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Right now, a good Jew Robert Unz is crusading the Jewish educational caste system. He compared fully academically meritocratic institution especially Caltech with Ivy league such as Harvard. He inferred that Harvard has a "Asian quota" while Jews are overwhelmingly over-represented.

For example, California has a population comparable to that of the next two largest states combined, and its 2010 total of 2,003 NMS semifinalists included well over 1,100 East Asian or South Asian family names. California may be one of the most heavily Asian states, but even so Asians of high school age are still outnumbered by whites roughly 3-to-1, while there were far more high scoring Asians. Put another way, although Asians represented only about 11 percent of California high school students, they constituted almost 60 percent of the top scoring ones. California’s list of NMS semifinalists from 2012 also followed a very similar ethnic pattern. Obviously, such an analysis based on last names is hardly precise, but it is probably correct to within a few percent, which is sufficient for our crude analytical purposes.

What he did not mention is among all academical meritocratical benchmark, Chinese exceeds any other group by a high margin. I will separate my write out in a few post.

California high school National Merit semifinalists - San Jose Mercury News

First we look at national merit scholarship, which is among the few benchmark of ace students. Chinese sounding names are close to 40% among California recipient. Indian family, being as populous as Chinese, are far better educated than Chinese in Californa. However Indians sounding names appears to be less around 10%.
 
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It is hoped that BS like admission quota by race will be less and less.
 
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It is hoped that BS like admission quota by race will be less and less.
If I went to school say for Engineering in US but did not go to a top university school, are the curriculum the same in a Ivy League school vs a non Ivy league school?
 
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The quality is different. The courses may be similar in names.

If I went to school say for Engineering in US but did not go to a top university school, are the curriculum the same in a Ivy League school vs a non Ivy league school?
 
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The quality is different. The courses may be similar in names.

That is why so many people want to go to Ivy league school. The discriminatory practice of putting a quota on Asians are sickening. But i guess that has to be done because a school full of Asians will not have a good basketball or football team--which surprisingly is more important than academics in US :crazy::D
 
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that is why I said:
"It is hoped that BS like admission quota by race will be less and less."

That is why so many people want to go to Ivy league school. The discriminatory practice of putting a quota on Asians are sickening. But i guess that has to be done because a school full of Asians will not have a good basketball or football team--which surprisingly is more important than academics in US :crazy::D
 
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That is why so many people want to go to Ivy league school. The discriminatory practice of putting a quota on Asians are sickening. But i guess that has to be done because a school full of Asians will not have a good basketball or football team--which surprisingly is more important than academics in US :crazy:
The quality is different. The courses may be similar in names.

I have did some readings and research on Jewish intellectual prowess. Conclusion, Jews intelligence seems to be going down, because the comfortable life in USA has erode their work ethnics.

Facing a large number of hard working Chinese, the only solutions will be to restrict Chinese from their top elite institutions, which have the most access to the elite sphere. (caste system)

The most powerful elite institution of USA are not the engineering type but the following
  1. Harvard
  2. Yale
  3. West point
  4. US Naval Academy
  5. US Airforce Academy
  6. Stanford
  7. Princeton
  8. Colombia
  9. Wharton
  10. John Hopkins
+ the rest of the Ivy league

Also another way is to collaborate with Indians. The junior software engineering job is not even fully open to Chinese even though we are smarter. Indians are given preferential in all recruiting exercise.

USA is developing into a caste society. The only hope for Chinese is a strong China.
 
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If I went to school say for Engineering in US but did not go to a top university school, are the curriculum the same in a Ivy League school vs a non Ivy league school?

There are a lot of engineering schools in the ' states that are not part of the ivy grouping. For example, some really good Engineering schools where i'm at include:

Rutgers University -- School of Engineering
Rowan University -- College of Engineering

They are great schools, and with high amounts of graduates getting well paying jobs, or going to grad school.
 
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Lol actually I am in an elite engineering school in Canada. But out class topper is some white guy. Cumulative average is 97.2%. But overall my class is 50-60% Asian, 30-40% Indians and other south Asians and 10% White, black etc etc.

So overall over 90% Asian.
 
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Lol actually I am in an elite engineering school in Canada. But out class topper is some white guy. Cumulative average is 97.2%. But overall my class is 50-60% Asian, 30-40% Indians and other south Asians and 10% White, black etc etc.

So overall over 90% Asian.

What made you decide to go for engineering? Why not medicine?
 
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Nothing, I was always the smartest guy in my class especially when it came to science and technology. So engineering came naturally to me.

A natural choice, i guess.

I have did some readings and research on Jewish intellectual prowess. Conclusion, Jews intelligence seems to be going down, because the comfortable life in USA has erode their work ethnics.

Facing a large number of hard working Chinese, the only solutions will be to restrict Chinese from their top elite institutions, which have the most access to the elite sphere. (caste system)

The most powerful elite institution of USA are not the engineering type but the following
  1. Harvard
  2. Yale
  3. West point
  4. US Naval Academy
  5. US Airforce Academy
  6. Stanford
  7. Princeton
  8. Colombia
  9. Wharton
  10. John Hopkins
+ the rest of the Ivy league

Also another way is to collaborate with Indians. The junior software engineering job is not even fully open to Chinese even though we are smarter. Indians are given preferential in all recruiting exercise.

USA is developing into a caste society. The only hope for Chinese is a strong China.


Btw,

A lot of Engineering firms, or research firms also prefer the following after their names:

Ph.D, Ed.D, M.Sc, M.A, M.B.A

than the school they attended for their undergrad. just letting you know from my personal and professional experience. :-)
 
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There are a lot of engineering schools in the ' states that are not part of the ivy grouping. For example, some really good Engineering schools where i'm at include:

Rutgers University -- School of Engineering
Rowan University -- College of Engineering

They are great schools, and with high amounts of graduates getting well paying jobs, or going to grad school.
A natural choice, i guess.




Btw,

A lot of Engineering firms, or research firms also prefer the following after their names:

Ph.D, Ed.D, M.Sc, M.A, M.B.A

than the school they attended for their undergrad. just letting you know from my personal and professional experience. :-)

The engineering schools are not the cradle for elite formation. The few like Bill Gates and Google guys are there for propaganda purpose that USA is a meritocratic country.

Most elite engineering type ends up as a middle class coder.

The real power of USA lies in the arts and humanities faculties in elite schools, especially Law and economic schools of Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Princeton and Colombia. These arts type shared power with West Point, US Naval Academy, US Air Force Academy type of people. There are a few power elites from medical schools like John Hopkins, Harvard, Stanford and Duke as well, but these are exceptions.

All these schools have Asian quota and those liberal arts schools have an over-representation of Jews.

USA is now becoming a caste system.
 
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If I went to school say for Engineering in US but did not go to a top university school, are the curriculum the same in a Ivy League school vs a non Ivy league school?

Most classes like calculus, chemstry will more or less be the same, except the exams will be much harder in the top tier school because the professor wants a perfect bell-shaped curve.

An "A" in calculus for a mediocre school might mean you have mastered 50%+ of the topic, but got an A because exams were easy.

For the top tier Ivy League school, it means you have mastered 90%+ of the topic.

Of course this is generalizing, it really depends on the professor, some professors don't care about curves and will give easy exams no matter where he teaches.

The classes that are different are the ones that requires writing. If you take a history course in a mediocre school, you can BS your way to an A with very little research and maybe 6 hrs writing your final paper.

In a top tier Ivy League school, you'll have to do research weeks in advance and find the time to write a 20-30 page research paper.

Top schools like Princeton requires every student to write a senior thesis, something that mediocre schools don't care about.
 
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I have did some readings and research on Jewish intellectual prowess. Conclusion, Jews intelligence seems to be going down, because the comfortable life in USA has erode their work ethnics.

Facing a large number of hard working Chinese, the only solutions will be to restrict Chinese from their top elite institutions, which have the most access to the elite sphere. (caste system)

The most powerful elite institution of USA are not the engineering type but the following
  1. Harvard
  2. Yale
  3. West point
  4. US Naval Academy
  5. US Airforce Academy
  6. Stanford
  7. Princeton
  8. Colombia
  9. Wharton
  10. John Hopkins
+ the rest of the Ivy league

Also another way is to collaborate with Indians. The junior software engineering job is not even fully open to Chinese even though we are smarter. Indians are given preferential in all recruiting exercise.

USA is developing into a caste society. The only hope for Chinese is a strong China.

Oh really? Sounds like typical chinese mentality of blaming others for their own shortcomings.
 
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