Y-20 heavy transport aircraft News & Discussions

[Deino]

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Via @捣蛋就对 from Weibo

Interesting, that the 13th Division has an aircraft no. 04, while the 4th Division has not (or at least not yet confirmed)

 

[LKJ86]

September 10, 2020

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[Figaro]

September 10, 2020
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17 Y-20s? XAC is really pumping them out like dumplings

 

[Beast]

17 Y-20s? XAC is really pumping them out like dumplings

And some say we still depend on D30KP2 engine import from Russia? Just these 17 Y-20 plus H-6K, H-6K and extra engine. Will need at least 100 import and yet we see no deal of such.

 

[Figaro]

And some say we still depend on D30KP2 engine import from Russia? Just these 17 Y-20 plus H-6K, H-6K and extra engine. Will need at least 100 import and yet we see no deal of such.

Apparently, this link says the Chinese purchased 170 D30KP2s in 2016 to power 40 Y-20 production models. I think it is still possible that most Y-20s produced so far (except for the few that have been equipped with the WS-20) are using these imported engines, considering the best estimate for the current Y-20 count is approximately 40. Since no purchases have been made since 2016, this is a very good indicator that the mass production of the WS-20 is imminent, if not already underway ... the WS-18 is being used to power the new H-6 models.

Link claims 463 D30 engines imported from Russia for H-6K & Y-20

https://www.china-arms.com/2020/01/d30-engines-for-y20-and-h6k/

2009 - 55 D30 for 20 H-6K (weasel's note: ties with Sipri reporting which indicated this may also be for Il-76)
https://www.uecrus.com/eng/presscenter/odk_news/2011/?ELEMENT_ID=1291
2011 - 184 D30 for 5 Y-20, 80 H-6K ((weasel's note: Sipri also indicated for Il-76, tiananmenwordpress indicated 41 used for IL-76)
2016 - 170 D30 for 40 Y-20 (Not reported by Sipri)
2016 - 54 D30 for 20 H-6K (Not reported by Sipri)
Total 463 D30 imported

 

[Deino]

September 10, 2020
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Impressive ... but still none with WS-20?!

 

[ziaulislam]

17 Y-20s? XAC is really pumping them out like dumplings

it shows how much disconnet there is between the real numbers china has and open source media

this is true for j10s, flankers as well..

 

[Figaro]

Impressive ... but still none with WS-20?!

How can you tell from this altitude if they are WS-20 or WS-18? Their diameter difference isn't that much noticeable from this angle.

 

[Deino]

it shows how much disconnet there is between the real numbers china has and open source media

this is true for j10s, flankers as well..

... and even more for the J-20.

 

[Beast]

Apparently, this link says the Chinese purchased 170 D30KP2s in 2016 to power 40 Y-20 production models. I think it is still possible that most Y-20s produced so far (except for the few that have been equipped with the WS-20) are using these imported engines, considering the best estimate for the current Y-20 count is approximately 40. Since no purchases have been made since 2016, this is a very good indicator that the mass production of the WS-20 is imminent, if not already underway ... the WS-18 is being used to power the new H-6 models.

Link claims 463 D30 engines imported from Russia for H-6K & Y-20

https://www.china-arms.com/2020/01/d30-engines-for-y20-and-h6k/

2009 - 55 D30 for 20 H-6K (weasel's note: ties with Sipri reporting which indicated this may also be for Il-76)
https://www.uecrus.com/eng/presscenter/odk_news/2011/?ELEMENT_ID=1291
2011 - 184 D30 for 5 Y-20, 80 H-6K ((weasel's note: Sipri also indicated for Il-76, tiananmenwordpress indicated 41 used for IL-76)
2016 - 170 D30 for 40 Y-20 (Not reported by Sipri)
2016 - 54 D30 for 20 H-6K (Not reported by Sipri)
Total 463 D30 imported

You need to take into account replacement for Il-76, new engine for H-6K , H-6J. Where do the number come from if according to those number import. It's simply not enough. Only by domestic production such huge appetite can only be satisfy.

Just like WS-10A, only with domestic engine production. J-11B,J-16 production demand can be met.

 

[Figaro]

Not sure if this was posted before but here is an official AVIC model of the civilian Y-20F100 with the WS-20. Hopefully we get a picture of the Y-20 WS-20 soon since the WS-20s have been installed since early last year.

 

[Deino]

Not sure if this was posted before but here is an official AVIC model of the civilian Y-20F100 with the WS-20. Hopefully we get a picture of the Y-20 WS-20 soon since the WS-20s have been installed since early last year.
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But this model was already at Zhuhai 2016, then again 2018 ... and still we haven't seen a real Y-20 + WS-20.

 

[Figaro]

But this model was already at Zhuhai 2016, then again 2018 ... and still we haven't seen a real Y-20 + WS-20.

I would say just be patient. We already know from last year the WS-20s have already been fitted on the Y-20 directly from AVIC. It is only a matter of time before we get those pictures ... just like the pictures of WS-10X J-20s in service. Had the PLAAF retained the lax censorship maybe 4 to 5 years ago, I can guarantee you would already have seen those photos a long time ago.

 

[LKJ86]

 

[OIO]

I love the sound of engine!