Xinjiang Province: News & Discussions

[anilindia]

BEIJING: China's Communist Party has blamed terrorists from "outside the country" for the rise in violence in the restive Xinjiang province, which borders Pakistan and Central Asia. Last week's clashes in the province, scene of a decades-old separatist movement involving Uighur Muslims, left 35 dead and 21 injured.


The official Xinhua news agency quoted Yu Zhengsheng, member of the Communist Party of China (CPC) central committee , as saying that "separatists in and outside the country have been escalating their efforts", to cause disturbances.

Chinese leaders are expected to discuss the free movement of Taliban-backed terrorists on the China-Pakistan border during the visit of Pakistan's Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif to Beijing, from July 4.

Xinjiang's local leaders have earlier blamed Pakistan as the source of weapons and training for terrorists operating in the region. But Yu refrained from naming any country. However, he admitted that some "deep-seated problems challenging Xinjiang's social stability have not been completely solved".

China may put Xinjiang terror on Sharif menu - The Times of India

 

[cnleio]

2013.6.30 street pics in XingJiang,Urumchi city. The Urumchi city in the north of XinJiang. Local residents most r Chinese Hans and few Uigur, but last 2009.7.5 riot the Uigur terrorists coming from other places killed 192 innocents in this city.

News link: 6月30日乌鲁木齐街头/6.30 Urumchi street pic

 

[cnleio]

6.30 7:00am street pics in Urumchi city

 

[sms]

Nice Pictures!!
Keep them coming.

Just curious why most of the people in picture you've posted does not looks like Xin Jiang's natives/ local people?

 

[cnleio]

July 5 is coming, China armed police and police units patrolling the street

 

[Okemos]

Nice Pictures!!
Keep them coming.

Just curious why most of the people in picture you've posted does not looks like Xin Jiang's natives/ local people?

Northern Xinjiang has always been Han dominated, so not sure what you mean by local people. Han lived in that area ever since Han Wudi(Emperor in Han Dynasty, whose name our ethnicity has ever been known) chased off Xiongnu (Hun) in about 100BC. In fact, Ugurs were quite recent migrants.

Emperor Wu of Han - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Anyone, don't wanna derail the thread. Nice pics.

 

[cnleio]

Nice Pictures!!
Keep them coming.

Just curious why most of the people in picture you've posted does not looks like Xin Jiang's natives/ local people?

There's no some difference between XinJiang Hans and inland Hans. In Urumchi city most r XinJiang Hans and some Uigur, in kashi city most r XinJiang Uigur.

Does the XinJiang Hans look like XinJiang Uigur ?

 

[sms]

Northern Xinjiang has always been Han dominated, so not sure what you mean by local people. Han lived in that area ever since Han Wudi(Emperor in Han Dynasty, whose name our ethnicity has ever been known) chased off Xiongnu (Hun) in about 100BC. In fact, Ugurs were quite recent migrants.

Emperor Wu of Han - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Anyone, don't wanna derail the thread. Nice pics.

There's no some difference between XinJiang Hans and inland Hans. In Urumchi city most r XinJiang Hans and some Uigur, in kashi city most r XinJiang Uigur.

Does the XinJiang Hans look like XinJiang Uigur ?

I'm confused now both statements are conflicting each other.

PS: Rest assured that intention to derail this thread.

 

[American spying]

Hans and Uighur are interbreeding. Making babies between us means there is no clear distinction.

 

[doremon]

There's no some difference between XinJiang Hans and inland Hans. In Urumchi city most r XinJiang Hans and some Uigur, in kashi city most r XinJiang Uigur.

Does the XinJiang Hans look like XinJiang Uigur ?

1question which is majority religion in xinjiang

 

[cnleio]

I'm confused now both statements are conflicting each other.

PS: Rest assured that intention to derail this thread.

To search google map, where's the Urumchi city and Kashi city and which location 2x cities in XinJiang.
There'r both Hans and Uigur living together in two cities, just more Hans living in Urumchi and more Uigur living in Kashi.

Just curious why most of the people in picture you've posted does not looks like Xin Jiang's natives/ local people?

A stupid question. Does the XinJiang Hans not belong to XinJiang's natives ? The local ppl only is XinJiang Uigur ? NO, both XinJiang Hans and Uigur all r XinJiang's natives, @Okemos have answered ur question coz hundred years ago XinJiang Hans had been living in North of XinJiang, the Uigur mainly living in South of XinJiang.

 

[cnleio]

1question which is majority religion in xinjiang

2012 data

其中汉族人口874，6148人，占总人口的40.1%
维吾尔族人口1006，9346人，占总人口的46.2%
其他少数民族人口299,7840人，占总人口的13.7%

XinJiang Hans population:874,6148, seize 40.1%
XinJiang Uigur population: 1,006,9346, seize 46.2%
XinJiang other minority nationalities: 299,7840, seize 13.7%

Currently is the Islam coz most Uigur believe Islam, most of Hans r non-religion

 

[q12093487q]

Not only does it happen in Africa and Southeast Asia, it happens in the richest countries: the London riots, the LA Watts riots, gang culture, etc.

People who feel that they have been cheated by the system are more susceptible to exploitation by extremists and to break the law. Of course, a lot of common criminals also hide behind this excuse, so it is not a simple matter.

None of this is meant to excuse the behavior of terrorists and criminals, but to understanding the underlying motivations.

Criminology and sociology are complex subjects.

I agree with you.But education and giving them good jobs can definitely reduce this kind of things.
Strange people in everywhere.Maybe a millionaire can kill people for no reason.But you will never see 100 millionaires with comfortable jobs organizing a terrorist attack

 

[Ahiska]

Something a little out of topic.

Yakutst girl. They speak Turkic.The Yakutst live in Siberia and is the most northern Turkic tribe. They look very Asian compared to Anatolian Turk. I feel great affinity for Yakutst as they are mongoloid looking. When Russia conquered Siberia, Yakutst women were made sex slave while Russian gangster bleed their man.

Russian gangster keep a harem of Yakutst women giving them sexual disease decimating a large number of Yakutst.

To Ahiska, wonder you feel more affinity to Yakutst or Anatolian? I am just curious.

Although I am a Han chinese, I can empathize the desire some Turks want to form greater turkestan. Today Turkey is a 3rd rate power. If Turkey manage to unite Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrghistan, the greater Turkestan will be sitting side by side with China, USA, Russia, Brazil, Canada, Australia and India. It will be a great power. It will have strategic depth and ability to conduct long term war.

But that will also destabilize China, Iran and Russia.

I dont think it would destabilize China or Russiabecause they give the Turkics in their country enough freedom but Iran is another topic.

 

[Pksecurity]

China, while putting the blame on Wahabi/Salafist elements for unrest in its far-western region of Xinjiang, has linked the terrorist activities in China with Syrian opposition fighters stating that Syrian opposition forces are training Muslim extremists. The Syrian opposition fighters are believed to be elements of al Qaeda being funded and armed by Western countries and the US. They are fighting to overthrow pro-Iran Assad regime to enforce in Syria their brand of Islam which is practiced in Saudi Arabia.
Reuters has reported that it was the first time Beijing has blamed a group in Syria and fits a common narrative of the government portraying Xinjiang's violence as coming from abroad, such as Pakistan, and not due to homegrown anger. The extremists operating in Xinjiang want to liberate the area from China to establish a new state, East Turkestan. Xinjiang, though a part of Chinese union has a semi-independent status like Hong Kong and called Special Administrative Region. This province is populated by majority ethnic Uighurs who are predominantly Muslims and seek independence for religious as well as cultural reasons.
According to official Chinese anti-terrorism authorities, some members of the 'East Turkestan' faction have entered Syria from Turkey, participated in extremist, religious and terrorist organizations within the Syrian opposition forces and fought against the Syrian army. This is going on since 2012.
The world is clearly divided on Syrian crisis with Iran openly backing the incumbent regime and Russia extending moral and material support. With China now blaming its internal troubles on anti-Assad rebels, it is expected that pro-Assad support base will widen. The analysts feel that the US and its allies are making huge blunder in supporting Syrian rebels who are al Qaeda elements. Once they seize power in Syria, a remote possibility, then the world will witness increased terrorist activities beyond South Asia and the Middle East.

Terrorists in Xinjiang were trained by Syrian opposition forces, blames China