Xinjiang Province: News & Discussions

[Capt.Popeye]

A very serious problem is brewing, and right on China's door-step. The scourge seems to be proliferating.

 

[manojb]

No need to worry my Chinese frends. These r just kids doing extr curriculum activities. For up coming annual day program. Its their culture thing you know. Thats what some expert from that area are suggesting. @Safriz.

 

[ShahidT]

This is a bit unfair. They have spent cash there. The problem is some vested interests who want to keep the pot boiling. US has also played a role in this.

Instead of blaming everything on one group, China must fight on all fronts. Spend money, fight and talk with some people and also monitor US activities.

not unfair at all. Uighurs are part of the Chinese nation. I haven't heard of Chinese Christians or Jews being told they can't observe Sabbath or religious duties. the only curtailment of free practice of religion nowadays occurs in the western provinces. It was similar in their eastern provinces some decades ago but they eventually learned that granting religious freedoms is a uniting factor, not a divisive one. but for some reason or other, maybe suspicions or military thinking, they haven't come around to it in xinjiang and xizang/tibet. so they need to just speed up this process of fully bringing them within the fold of China as loyal citizens. foreign elements can only interfere until China realizes and acts upon this tried and tested policy, then the meddling will eventually wane to extinction.

 

[asianamerican]

I would ban all religions. Just look at Iraq, they kill each other just because they worship a subsection of the same religion and dividing the country. The Christians go around killing the Muslims. I'm an atheist. The spread of religion in China will ruin China and eventually divide China among religious groups. The CCP has done an appalling job controlling the spread of religion in China.

The west has been trying to spread Christianity (underground churches) like they spread it in South Korea to be sympathetic towards the western ideals. Some Muslim countries have not been criticising terrorist activities inside China like turkey.

That's probably the worst part of religions. It divides instead of unite. It seemed that people forget that nation's fate is tied to unity and people working together. If you people flourish, you will be better off. Instead, religion people rather listen to outsider of the same fate, like the Pope, even though the whole Catholic church is racist and would never elect a non-white pope. It perplexed me for a long time, why people choose to follow Christianity/Islam in East Asia, when these religion came to through war and force conversions.

Althought, freedom of religion (person) should be allowed, as not to alienate existing population, but as soon as these people start preaching, then they need to be put down.

@Developereo:

Xinjiang terrorist attack kills 15 - People's Daily

Whereas the international media don't want to use the word "terrorist" in their headlines, but pay attention to the quotes from Chinese officials:

Violence in western Chinese region of Xinjiang kills 21 - CNN



Chinese officials used the word "Jihad" multiple times.

What do expect from CNN and Western news media. They never call terrorist act in China "terrorism", they use "uprising", "violence". They call Chinese news organization - "propaganda bureau".

Chinese news media need to do the same. This Boston Bombing is not a terrorist act, but "a violence protest against Western intervention in Islamic country".

 

[sur]

...Looks like Islam can't coexist with any other religion.

Get ur eyes checked then... or learn some history...

When Islam was in power, it existed peacefully with all other religions longer than any other civilization in the history of the earth. ~1000 years...

Read history, when Muslims ruled any area, like Jerusalem, all religions were given freedom contrary to when Christians ruled Jerusalem Jews & Muslims civilians were massacred. Romans massacred Jews & Christians civilians. Mongols too. Atheists rulers massacred their own civilians in Russia & China surpassing total count of other killings in history of the world. Inquisition is another example generosity of Christians. And as for the Jews , just read the holy scripture of Jews itself, the old testament. Their own scripture testifies against them. "smash heads of breast-feeding infants & kill all non-virgins & keep the virgins for yourselves"

Good video of China XinJiang Jihad (the Blue Jihad Flag)...future prepare for killing in XinJiang.

I don't see any relation of this video to China, except that it's uploaded on some Chinese website ... Do you hallucinate???

& AsianAmerican Looks like you buy propaganda quicker than you do your home work given by a strict teacher... In case you are not in touch, many such videos have poped up in past too. Those invaders sitting in Afghanistan gather some locals & make them act for a little filming. Sometimes they show these actors firing at a Christian-Cross. Sometimes they film bunch of cheep actors with their faces covered doing some gymnastics on monkey-bars & show sheeple as if they are busy training to take over the world. These ppl that u see hardly have enough to feed themselves let alone perpetrate any attack else where.

If u were scared by kids firing, then there are lots of videos of chicks in bikini firing guns, you should be scared that ladies might be plotting to take over men-kind.

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Let me enlighten you with a couple of examples on how they hire locals & for little money or may be just for some candies make them act in these videos...

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Two French journalists Joel Marc Epstein and Jean Paul Guilloteau

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BBC - Pakistan jails French journalists
"President Pervez Musharraf criticised the two men and their Pakistani fixer for trying to defame the country by falsely presenting the country as a hub of Taleban activities."

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Two French journalists making fake reports arrested from Baluchistan
"...fake films on Taliban have been recovered from their possession which were aimed to tarnish Pakistan's image"

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French Journalists and their arrest in Pakistan
"A local journalist Syed Khawar Mehdi aiding the two men was also arrested ... involved in making a video showing fake Taliban guerillas getting arms training within Pakistan’s territory."

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Second example
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo_g0oxygTg

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The ex-FBI:'There is no real hunt. It's fixed'​

Craig Monteilh describes how he pretended to be a radical Muslim in order to root out potential threats, shining a light on some of the bureau's more ethically murky practices ... This is when suspects carry out or plot fake terrorist "attacks" at the request or under the close supervision of an FBI undercover operation using secret informants. Often those informants have serious criminal records or are supplied with a financial motivation to net suspects.
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Hope now you can get some nightmare-free sleep with your teddy bear...

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...But can you ignore the fact that many extremists live in Pakistan?
Why didn't you kick out extremists after afghan war? First you helped the west against the Soviets and ruined your country and then the same west has turned against you.

...where were those so-called extremist when neither USSR nor US were in Afghanistan... WHY was it so peaceful in Pakistan during that window period???

WHY is it so that when USSR was in Afghan & now that US is in Afghan, there are blasts in Pakistan??? WHY Pakistan was free of bus-market-suicide blasts when there were Taliban ruling Afghanistan??? 7 continued to be so until ~2004 (uptil when US-&-dogs were preparing to start a new episode of terrorism inside Pakistan) What's so common between presence of USSR & US in Afghan??? Does India come to your mind as a common factor???


& As to existence of extremist, they are every where. Who blew up abortion clinic in US for example? Remember irish against England? Tamil in Sri Lanka. Gangs in Mexico? & above all US military ... Extremist all everywhere & all the time there. They aren't found exclusively in Pakistan. Now the real thing is are they capable of acting on their thoughts??? NO,,, especially in Pakistan they are NOT, unless they receive support from some external forces, like they received when USSR was in Afghan & now are again receiving when US in in neighborhood...[/U] The moment US f***s off from Afghan abandoning india as an orphan, peace will come back to Pakistan & these trouble makers in China will also starve to relent.

Point is,, extremist minds are everywhere, they are harmless until you provide them resources & assistance to act on their thoughts... Watch this, how US punish ppl for their thoughts by making them do criminal things...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwTpJ1EoV6A

 

[Capt.Popeye]

No need to worry my Chinese frends. These r just kids doing extr curriculum activities. For up coming annual day program. Its their culture thing you know. Thats what some expert from that area are suggesting. @Safriz.

Oh, did Frizzie say that they were Boy Scouts attending their annual camp?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

That's f-ing sad. Brainwashing and training kids to kill. China need to put stomp this before it gets out of control and terrorist starting targeting major cities in China. These kids deserved better.

Looks like Islam can't coexist with any other religion.

What's the point to blame the ordinary Muslims for this?

Think about Syria and this, which group in this world can fund this?

 

[Safriz]

Oh, did Frizzie say that they were Boy Scouts attending their annual camp?

NO I JUST ASKED YOU TO NOT SOIL YOUR PANTS SCARED OF KIDDIES..
ITS TRADITIONAL IN MANY AREAS OF THE WORLD TO TEACH CHILDREN GUNFIRE...
THESE AREAS OF THE WORLD INCLUDE yOO eSS OF aAEY AND MANY CENTRAL ASIAN REGIONS.

OH THE CAPS..CANT BE ARSED TO TURN THEM OFF

 

[BigDaddyWatch]

That's f-ing sad. Brainwashing and training kids to kill. China need to put stomp this before it gets out of control and terrorist starting targeting major cities in China. These kids deserved better.

Looks like Islam can't coexist with any other religion.

Blaming an entire religion for the actions of a few is just stupid. Violence is of all nations and people and of all times including China and the Chinese. I don't see the Muslims having a monopoly on violence in the world today. The Muslims are getting a bad rep from the media.

 

[qinglong-china]

From the middle of the last century, East Turkistan separatists(疆&#29420、 Tibetan separatist（藏独）、 Taiwan independence（台独） were supported by some western countries and some countries with bad intentions to dismember China. East Turkistan separatists and Tibetan separatist are under the guise of religion, If no guise of religion, no one follows them.

 

[qinglong-china]

From the middle of the last century, East Turkistan separatists(疆&#29420、 Tibetan separatist（藏独）、 Taiwan independence（台独） were supported by some western countries and some countries with bad intentions to dismember China. East Turkistan separatists and Tibetan separatist are under the guise of religion, If no guise of religion, no one follows them.

 

[Silverblaze]

Get ur eyes checked then... or learn some history...

When Islam was in power, it existed peacefully with all other religions longer than any other civilization in the history of the earth. ~1000 years...

Read history, when Muslims ruled any area, like Jerusalem, all religions were given freedom contrary to when Christians ruled Jerusalem Jews & Muslims civilians were massacred. Romans massacred Jews & Christians civilians. Mongols too. Atheists rulers massacred their own civilians in Russia & China surpassing total count of other killings in history of the world. Inquisition is another example generosity of Christians. And as for the Jews , just read the holy scripture of Jews itself, the old testament. Their own scripture testifies against them. "smash heads of breast-feeding infants & kill all non-virgins & keep the virgins for yourselves"


I don't see any relation of this video to China, except that it's uploaded on some Chinese website ... Do you hallucinate???

& AsianAmerican Looks like you buy propaganda quicker than you do your home work given by a strict teacher... In case you are not in touch, many such videos have poped up in past too. Those invaders sitting in Afghanistan gather some locals & make them act for a little filming. Sometimes they show these actors firing at a Christian-Cross. Sometimes they film bunch of cheep actors with their faces covered doing some gymnastics on monkey-bars & show sheeple as if they are busy training to take over the world. These ppl that u see hardly have enough to feed themselves let alone perpetrate any attack else where.

If u were scared by kids firing, then there are lots of videos of chicks in bikini firing guns, you should be scared that ladies might be plotting to take over men-kind.

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Let me enlighten you with a couple of examples on how they hire locals & for little money or may be just for some candies make them act in these videos...

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Two French journalists Joel Marc Epstein and Jean Paul Guilloteau

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BBC - Pakistan jails French journalists
"President Pervez Musharraf criticised the two men and their Pakistani fixer for trying to defame the country by falsely presenting the country as a hub of Taleban activities."

.

Two French journalists making fake reports arrested from Baluchistan
"...fake films on Taliban have been recovered from their possession which were aimed to tarnish Pakistan's image"

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French Journalists and their arrest in Pakistan
"A local journalist Syed Khawar Mehdi aiding the two men was also arrested ... involved in making a video showing fake Taliban guerillas getting arms training within Pakistan’s territory."

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Second example
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo_g0oxygTg

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Hope now you can get some nightmare-free sleep with your teddy bear...

This is exploitation by the west.

But can you ignore the fact that many extremists live in Pakistan?

Why didn't you kick out extremists after afghan war?

First you helped the west against the Soviets and ruined your country and then the same west has turned against you.

 

[qinglong-china]

Oh come on. Its a very very old movement. And may I remind you that these groups had tacit approval from the US.

you are right. they were supported by CIA, they are under the guise of religion but nothing to do with religion

 

[Silverblaze]

you are right. under the guise of religion but nothing to do with religion

No it has to with religion. These children who can't even spell their names properly are given these toys. why?

Same thing happened in Afghanistan in the 80s. Sadly, people do not talk about it.

US has always used these people as useful idiots to defeat Soviets and now may be China.

 

[notsuperstitious]

No it has to with religion. These children who can't even spell their names properly are given these toys. why?

Same thing happened in Afghanistan in the 80s. Sadly, people do not talk about it.

US has always used these people as useful idiots to defeat Soviets and now may be China.

Hundreds of educated european converts are in Syria right now, fighting the alawites.

There is an organised hate / brainwashing / militancy campaign run by your religious infrastructure around the world. Do you not see it? Do you not see all these robots repeating the same stuff like zombies? It is nothing to do with religion in theory, in practice the religion seems to live with it pretty comfortably, no?

I'm sure as a thinking muslim, you see the contradiction clearly?