Xinjiang Province: News & Discussions

[Jlaw]

Indians will complain that China is stealing Indian rainwater

There's no treaty of any kind regarding water. India threaten BD with water war all the time.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

There's no treaty of any kind regarding water. India threaten BD with water war all the time.

When I look at this video, BD people have all my sympathy on which they have to depend on India water for their own survival, lucky we Chinese are not at the mercy of India for water.

 

[Jlaw]

When I look at this video, BD people have all my sympathy on which they have to depend on India water for their own survival, lucky we Chinese are not at the mercy of India for water.

Exactly. I don't know why the **** CPC keep playing nice with Hindus. China controls the main of brahmasupra river . Stop the flow to India and blast those mountains on China side to get monsoon rain.

 

[shadows888]

China's modernization and infrastructure developments themselves are great for China. But there is a lot of suffering happening in Xinjiang from the government's heavy handed policies.

Rebiya Kadeer: President of World Uyghur Congress. It's her 7th time visiting Japan. The video below is from October 2015. The text below is a lot of what she talks about from her 20 min presentation and the Q&A in the video. Take it for what you can. Possibility of exaggerations, etc. But access for reporters to investigate seems very limited.

The situation in East Turkestan (Xinjiang) has become worse under Xi Jinping. 1,000s of Uyghur have ran away from East Turkestan to neighboring countries while PRC continues to claim that they brought prosperity to the region. Before him, Uyghur protesters would typically get arrested and go through a trial with the decision of death or jail time. Now the police are quicker to just shoot to kill rather than arresting.

An example of an incident giving that happened on July 27th, 2014, a group of women wanted to pray in a house while the men were praying at a Mosque during Ramadan. The Chinese security forces broke into the house on the basis of illegal religious activity and killed 12 people including a 3 year old and a 70 year old woman. When the Uyghur men returned, they naturally protested the brutality, moving the dead bodies to in front of a police station. The Uyghur wanted those that made the raid into the house to be punished. But the police just opened fire on the protesting Uyghurs resulting in 100s dead including children. Chinese media Xinhua reported it as China security forces killing terrorists. Then the Chinese military launched an operation using helicopters against 3 villages resulting 100s more killed. The international media just quoted Xinhua as to what happened. But when international reporters went into Xinjiang to investigate, the Xinhua admitted that there was a crackdown. There was a smilar use of helicopters attacking a village in the year before.

Under the title of War on Terror, the each Uyghur is easily made suspect by the Chinese security forces under Xi Jinping. All people in China receive an identification card. But unlike all the other cards, the Uyghur cards have a chip inside which will make a sound whenever scanned, thus prompting a search on the individual Uyghur.

There is police and military forces all over so incidents of violence and disappearances happen everyday through out East Turkestan. The Chinese government claims it is all internal affairs so they say that the international community has no right to interfere but Rebiya Kadeer is claiming that the situation warrants international interference because of how bad the situation has become.

To a question about the Thai bombing suspecting Uyghur action and the killing of Han Chinese by knives at Kunming train station, her reply was that such actions are condemned World Uighur Congress. But she went on saying that in the case of the Kunming train station incident, the Chinese had a secret trial with the captured suspects and killed three of them. No information was released so the World Uighur Congress is trying to gather information they can about it and that things can't be confirmed because of how the Chinese government handled handles it. Another point was that 20 years ago, such high tensions between the Han and Uyghur didn't exist although the Uyghurs were always suppressed. But that it has gotten far worse and that is causing the Uyghurs to become violent recently. An example to another question was of religious repression. Chinese security forces forced Uygurs to eat in front of them during Ramadan, a period when they don't normally eat.

Another point during the Q&A, the Chinese government keeps the Uyghurs that live within Chinese borders separate from international news. So they have no idea what goes on outside of China. If any is caught listening to international news, they get 10-12 years jail time.

Another point is that the World Uighur Congress wishes countries to have good relations and economic relations with China but they wish for those democratic countries to raise the issues in Xinjiang and the repression of the Uyghur people when dealing with China.

In 2006, China made a policy of transfering Uyghur girls and women from East Turkestan into the mainland and in 2007 they said they transferred 24,000 girls, completing the policy. Any parents that resisted were accused as terrorists and put in jail. SInce then, the Chinese government continued to transfer girls. The excuse giving is that they are providing jobs. But that has to be a lie because on the flip side, China is transferring many Han to East Turkestan and building housing, etc, for them to work. SO jobs could have been provided for the girls in East Turkestan, so goes that argument. Uyghurs don't have the right to work in the resource rich land of East Turkestan (Xinjiang). 86% of the Uyghur population are farmers but the Chinese have been confiscating the farm land and when the Uygurs protests, they get beaten. Every Uyghur family has someone that has spend years in prison.

World Uyghur Congress = CIA propaganda unit.

 

[AndrewJin]

World Uyghur Congress = CIA propaganda unit.

Only retarded will fall into their propaganda. Unfortunately, there are such people.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

China's modernization and infrastructure developments themselves are great for China. But there is a lot of suffering happening in Xinjiang from the government's heavy handed policies.

Rebiya Kadeer: President of World Uyghur Congress. It's her 7th time visiting Japan. The video below is from October 2015. The text below is a lot of what she talks about from her 20 min presentation and the Q&A in the video. Take it for what you can. Possibility of exaggerations, etc. But access for reporters to investigate seems very limited.

The situation in East Turkestan (Xinjiang) has become worse under Xi Jinping. 1,000s of Uyghur have ran away from East Turkestan to neighboring countries while PRC continues to claim that they brought prosperity to the region. Before him, Uyghur protesters would typically get arrested and go through a trial with the decision of death or jail time. Now the police are quicker to just shoot to kill rather than arresting.

An example of an incident giving that happened on July 27th, 2014, a group of women wanted to pray in a house while the men were praying at a Mosque during Ramadan. The Chinese security forces broke into the house on the basis of illegal religious activity and killed 12 people including a 3 year old and a 70 year old woman. When the Uyghur men returned, they naturally protested the brutality, moving the dead bodies to in front of a police station. The Uyghur wanted those that made the raid into the house to be punished. But the police just opened fire on the protesting Uyghurs resulting in 100s dead including children. Chinese media Xinhua reported it as China security forces killing terrorists. Then the Chinese military launched an operation using helicopters against 3 villages resulting 100s more killed. The international media just quoted Xinhua as to what happened. But when international reporters went into Xinjiang to investigate, the Xinhua admitted that there was a crackdown. There was a smilar use of helicopters attacking a village in the year before.

Under the title of War on Terror, the each Uyghur is easily made suspect by the Chinese security forces under Xi Jinping. All people in China receive an identification card. But unlike all the other cards, the Uyghur cards have a chip inside which will make a sound whenever scanned, thus prompting a search on the individual Uyghur.

There is police and military forces all over so incidents of violence and disappearances happen everyday through out East Turkestan. The Chinese government claims it is all internal affairs so they say that the international community has no right to interfere but Rebiya Kadeer is claiming that the situation warrants international interference because of how bad the situation has become.

To a question about the Thai bombing suspecting Uyghur action and the killing of Han Chinese by knives at Kunming train station, her reply was that such actions are condemned World Uighur Congress. But she went on saying that in the case of the Kunming train station incident, the Chinese had a secret trial with the captured suspects and killed three of them. No information was released so the World Uighur Congress is trying to gather information they can about it and that things can't be confirmed because of how the Chinese government handled handles it. Another point was that 20 years ago, such high tensions between the Han and Uyghur didn't exist although the Uyghurs were always suppressed. But that it has gotten far worse and that is causing the Uyghurs to become violent recently. An example to another question was of religious repression. Chinese security forces forced Uygurs to eat in front of them during Ramadan, a period when they don't normally eat.

Another point during the Q&A, the Chinese government keeps the Uyghurs that live within Chinese borders separate from international news. So they have no idea what goes on outside of China. If any is caught listening to international news, they get 10-12 years jail time.

Another point is that the World Uighur Congress wishes countries to have good relations and economic relations with China but they wish for those democratic countries to raise the issues in Xinjiang and the repression of the Uyghur people when dealing with China.

In 2006, China made a policy of transfering Uyghur girls and women from East Turkestan into the mainland and in 2007 they said they transferred 24,000 girls, completing the policy. Any parents that resisted were accused as terrorists and put in jail. SInce then, the Chinese government continued to transfer girls. The excuse giving is that they are providing jobs. But that has to be a lie because on the flip side, China is transferring many Han to East Turkestan and building housing, etc, for them to work. SO jobs could have been provided for the girls in East Turkestan, so goes that argument. Uyghurs don't have the right to work in the resource rich land of East Turkestan (Xinjiang). 86% of the Uyghur population are farmers but the Chinese have been confiscating the farm land and when the Uygurs protests, they get beaten. Every Uyghur family has someone that has spend years in prison.

Old Japanese trick, this remind me of @Nihonjin1051 when first he came to make flame bait thread and comments .

 

[xyxmt]

Damn you Chinese, I hate you for building such beautiful cities in no time.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Best of luck to China in building her country.

 

[samsara]

When I look at this video, BD people have all my sympathy on which they have to depend on India water for their own survival, lucky we Chinese are not at the mercy of India for water.

What a great irony knowing that India make complaints often to China about the waters management, that China is building many dams on the upper rivers. Understanding the northwestern region of China still lacks of water seriously, can China divert some of the water to its NW region (Xinjiang, Gansu, Inner Mongolia), something similar to the South-North Water Diversion project?

I think Bangladesh should build a dam on its own side to manage the water mentioned in above video, as not being too much and too little, maintain a smoother fluctuation of water level.

China's modernization and infrastructure developments themselves are great for China. But there is a lot of suffering happening in Xinjiang from the government's heavy handed policies.

Rebiya Kadeer: President of World Uyghur Congress. It's her 7th time visiting Japan. The video below is from October 2015. The text below is a lot of what she talks about from her 20 min presentation and the Q&A in the video. Take it for what you can. Possibility of exaggerations, etc. But access for reporters to investigate seems very limited.

The situation in East Turkestan (Xinjiang) has become worse under Xi Jinping. 1,000s of Uyghur have ran away from East Turkestan to neighboring countries while PRC continues to claim that they brought prosperity to the region. Before him, Uyghur protesters would typically get arrested and go through a trial with the decision of death or jail time. Now the police are quicker to just shoot to kill rather than arresting.

An example of an incident giving that happened on July 27th, 2014, a group of women wanted to pray in a house while the men were praying at a Mosque during Ramadan. The Chinese security forces broke into the house on the basis of illegal religious activity and killed 12 people including a 3 year old and a 70 year old woman. When the Uyghur men returned, they naturally protested the brutality, moving the dead bodies to in front of a police station. The Uyghur wanted those that made the raid into the house to be punished. But the police just opened fire on the protesting Uyghurs resulting in 100s dead including children. Chinese media Xinhua reported it as China security forces killing terrorists. Then the Chinese military launched an operation using helicopters against 3 villages resulting 100s more killed. The international media just quoted Xinhua as to what happened. But when international reporters went into Xinjiang to investigate, the Xinhua admitted that there was a crackdown. There was a smilar use of helicopters attacking a village in the year before.

Under the title of War on Terror, the each Uyghur is easily made suspect by the Chinese security forces under Xi Jinping. All people in China receive an identification card. But unlike all the other cards, the Uyghur cards have a chip inside which will make a sound whenever scanned, thus prompting a search on the individual Uyghur.

There is police and military forces all over so incidents of violence and disappearances happen everyday through out East Turkestan. The Chinese government claims it is all internal affairs so they say that the international community has no right to interfere but Rebiya Kadeer is claiming that the situation warrants international interference because of how bad the situation has become.

To a question about the Thai bombing suspecting Uyghur action and the killing of Han Chinese by knives at Kunming train station, her reply was that such actions are condemned World Uighur Congress. But she went on saying that in the case of the Kunming train station incident, the Chinese had a secret trial with the captured suspects and killed three of them. No information was released so the World Uighur Congress is trying to gather information they can about it and that things can't be confirmed because of how the Chinese government handled handles it. Another point was that 20 years ago, such high tensions between the Han and Uyghur didn't exist although the Uyghurs were always suppressed. But that it has gotten far worse and that is causing the Uyghurs to become violent recently. An example to another question was of religious repression. Chinese security forces forced Uygurs to eat in front of them during Ramadan, a period when they don't normally eat.

Another point during the Q&A, the Chinese government keeps the Uyghurs that live within Chinese borders separate from international news. So they have no idea what goes on outside of China. If any is caught listening to international news, they get 10-12 years jail time.

Another point is that the World Uighur Congress wishes countries to have good relations and economic relations with China but they wish for those democratic countries to raise the issues in Xinjiang and the repression of the Uyghur people when dealing with China.

In 2006, China made a policy of transfering Uyghur girls and women from East Turkestan into the mainland and in 2007 they said they transferred 24,000 girls, completing the policy. Any parents that resisted were accused as terrorists and put in jail. SInce then, the Chinese government continued to transfer girls. The excuse giving is that they are providing jobs. But that has to be a lie because on the flip side, China is transferring many Han to East Turkestan and building housing, etc, for them to work. SO jobs could have been provided for the girls in East Turkestan, so goes that argument. Uyghurs don't have the right to work in the resource rich land of East Turkestan (Xinjiang). 86% of the Uyghur population are farmers but the Chinese have been confiscating the farm land and when the Uygurs protests, they get beaten. Every Uyghur family has someone that has spend years in prison.

And why did you bring the CIA PROPAGANDA here? Rebiya is just a still useful proxy for CIA, just the same as the CIA Monk but they will fade out soon, leaving out as disgrace to the people, some personalities who are making profits speaking out against the true interests of the people and trying to create trouble from time to time.

They are not blind and too smart for not seeing the real progresses there, but their vested interests dictate they must act and serve as steady antagonistic mouthpieces of their masters and parroting the CIA agendas!

You must feel shameful and ask yourself, what these people (Rebiya, CIA Monk) had contributed to the people's livelihood in the past when they had opportunity for that? Today these old people simply making living out of selling lies against the interests of the very people they're falsely saying to protect. Nonetheless they are just serving as small nuisances but won't slow down the actual progress at all!

 

[AndrewJin]

What a great irony knowing that India make complaints often to China about the waters management, that China is building many dams on the upper rivers. Understanding the northwestern region of China still lacks of water seriously, can China divert some of the water to its NW region (Xinjiang, Gansu, Inner Mongolia), something similar to the South-North Water Diversion project?

I think Bangladesh should build a dam on its own side to manage the water mentioned in above video, as not being too much and too little, maintain a smoother fluctuation of water level.


And why did you bring the CIA PROPAGANDA here? Rebiya is just a still useful proxy for CIA, just the same as the CIA Monk but they will fade out soon, leaving out as disgrace to the people, some personalities who are making profits speaking out against the true interests of the people and trying to create trouble from time to time.
They are not blind and too smart for not seeing the real progresses there, but their vested interests dictate they must act and serve as steady antagonistic mouthpieces of their masters and parroting the CIA agendas!

You must feel shameful and ask yourself, what these people (Rebiya, CIA Monk) had contributed to the people's livelihood in the past when they had opportunity for that? Today these old people simply making living out of selling lies against the interests of the very people they're falsely saying to protect. Nonetheless they are just serving as small nuisances but won't slow down the actual progress at all!

They are so supportive of slave owners....

 

[bananarepublic]

China's modernization and infrastructure developments themselves are great for China. But there is a lot of suffering happening in Xinjiang from the government's heavy handed policies.

Rebiya Kadeer: President of World Uyghur Congress. It's her 7th time visiting Japan. The video below is from October 2015. The text below is a lot of what she talks about from her 20 min presentation and the Q&A in the video. Take it for what you can. Possibility of exaggerations, etc. But access for reporters to investigate seems very limited.

The situation in East Turkestan (Xinjiang) has become worse under Xi Jinping. 1,000s of Uyghur have ran away from East Turkestan to neighboring countries while PRC continues to claim that they brought prosperity to the region. Before him, Uyghur protesters would typically get arrested and go through a trial with the decision of death or jail time. Now the police are quicker to just shoot to kill rather than arresting.

An example of an incident giving that happened on July 27th, 2014, a group of women wanted to pray in a house while the men were praying at a Mosque during Ramadan. The Chinese security forces broke into the house on the basis of illegal religious activity and killed 12 people including a 3 year old and a 70 year old woman. When the Uyghur men returned, they naturally protested the brutality, moving the dead bodies to in front of a police station. The Uyghur wanted those that made the raid into the house to be punished. But the police just opened fire on the protesting Uyghurs resulting in 100s dead including children. Chinese media Xinhua reported it as China security forces killing terrorists. Then the Chinese military launched an operation using helicopters against 3 villages resulting 100s more killed. The international media just quoted Xinhua as to what happened. But when international reporters went into Xinjiang to investigate, the Xinhua admitted that there was a crackdown. There was a smilar use of helicopters attacking a village in the year before.

Under the title of War on Terror, the each Uyghur is easily made suspect by the Chinese security forces under Xi Jinping. All people in China receive an identification card. But unlike all the other cards, the Uyghur cards have a chip inside which will make a sound whenever scanned, thus prompting a search on the individual Uyghur.

There is police and military forces all over so incidents of violence and disappearances happen everyday through out East Turkestan. The Chinese government claims it is all internal affairs so they say that the international community has no right to interfere but Rebiya Kadeer is claiming that the situation warrants international interference because of how bad the situation has become.

To a question about the Thai bombing suspecting Uyghur action and the killing of Han Chinese by knives at Kunming train station, her reply was that such actions are condemned World Uighur Congress. But she went on saying that in the case of the Kunming train station incident, the Chinese had a secret trial with the captured suspects and killed three of them. No information was released so the World Uighur Congress is trying to gather information they can about it and that things can't be confirmed because of how the Chinese government handled handles it. Another point was that 20 years ago, such high tensions between the Han and Uyghur didn't exist although the Uyghurs were always suppressed. But that it has gotten far worse and that is causing the Uyghurs to become violent recently. An example to another question was of religious repression. Chinese security forces forced Uygurs to eat in front of them during Ramadan, a period when they don't normally eat.

Another point during the Q&A, the Chinese government keeps the Uyghurs that live within Chinese borders separate from international news. So they have no idea what goes on outside of China. If any is caught listening to international news, they get 10-12 years jail time.

Another point is that the World Uighur Congress wishes countries to have good relations and economic relations with China but they wish for those democratic countries to raise the issues in Xinjiang and the repression of the Uyghur people when dealing with China.

In 2006, China made a policy of transfering Uyghur girls and women from East Turkestan into the mainland and in 2007 they said they transferred 24,000 girls, completing the policy. Any parents that resisted were accused as terrorists and put in jail. SInce then, the Chinese government continued to transfer girls. The excuse giving is that they are providing jobs. But that has to be a lie because on the flip side, China is transferring many Han to East Turkestan and building housing, etc, for them to work. SO jobs could have been provided for the girls in East Turkestan, so goes that argument. Uyghurs don't have the right to work in the resource rich land of East Turkestan (Xinjiang). 86% of the Uyghur population are farmers but the Chinese have been confiscating the farm land and when the Uygurs protests, they get beaten. Every Uyghur family has someone that has spend years in prison.

Please if it was not for the Chinese government they would have still been in the dark ages . Did u know that Xinjiang had slave markets in the early 1900s the only surviving slave market and they had nothing no infrastructure no jobs.
they are more happy it is all a propaganda the image being portrayed by the western media is all wrong if u go and see for ur self it is completely different.

 

[jkroo]

They are so supportive of slave owners....

First of all they are criminals, then slave masters, last but not least traitors.

Jealousy always show up when the development plan was proposed. This is the deadly truth here. LOL.

I have all the confidences that the huge plan will be successfully completed with no delay. A prosperous Pakistan and richer Pakistanis will be there in decades. Let's work harder, guys.

 

[Zibago]

Xinjiang universities to offer Urdu, Farsi classes
Two universities in north-west China’s Xinjiang Uygur autonomous region will add Urdu and Farsi (Persian) to their undergraduate curriculum.

Shihezi University and Xinjiang Normal University based in Urumqi are setting up Urdu and Farsi departments, respectively, and start enrolling students nationwide this summer, according to a Shihezi University press release on Monday.

Urdu is the official language of Pakistan. In 2013, China and Pakistan started to build the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor, a 3,000-km network of roads, railways and pipelines linking Xinjiang’s Kashgar and south-west Pakistan’s Gwadar Port.

Farsi is the official language in Iran and Tajikistan, and a major language in Afghanistan.

Currently, only six universities in China offer Farsi as a major, producing less than 500 people proficient in the language,

Xinjiang’s increasing cooperation in trade and counter-terrorism with Farsi-speaking countries requires more advanced Farsi language learners, it said.
http://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2017/03/27/xinjiang-universities-to-offer-urdu-farsi-classes/

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Now Sinjan Turkic folks are reestablishing the historical connections with their neighbors. IMO, this is one of the least talked about plusses of CPEC ...

 

[thesolar65]

BEIJING: China will step up a campaign against religious extremism in the far western region of Xinjiang on Saturday by implementing a range of measures, including prohibiting "abnormal" beards, the wearing of veils in public places and the refusal to watch state television.

Hundreds of people have died in recent years in Xinjiang, home to the Muslim Uighur people, in unrest blamed by Beijing on Islamist militants and separatists, though rights groups say the violence is more a reaction to repressive Chinese policies.

The government strongly denies committing any abuses in Xinjiang and insists the legal, cultural and religious rights of Uighurs, a Turkic ethnic group, are fully protected.

While China officially guarantees freedom of religion, authorities have issued a series of measures in the past few years to tackle what it sees as a rise in religious extremism.

New legislation, passed by Xinjiang lawmakers on Wednesday and published on the region's official news website, widens existing rules and will come into effect on April 1.

Workers in public spaces like stations and airports will be required to "dissuade" those who fully cover their bodies, including veiling their faces, from entering, and to report them to the police, the rules state.

It will be banned to "reject or refuse radio, television and other public facilities and services", marrying using religious rather than legal procedures and "using the name of Halal to meddle in the secular life of others".

"Parents should use good moral conduct to influence their children, educate them to revere science, pursue culture, uphold ethnic unity and refuse and oppose extremism," the rules say.

The document also bans not allowing children to attend regular school, not abiding by family planning policies, deliberately damaging legal documents and "abnormal growing of beards and naming of children to exaggerate religious fervour".

A number of bans on select "extremist behaviours" had previously been introduced in some places in Xinjiang, including stopping people with head scarves, veils and long beards from boarding buses in at least one city.

The new rules expand the list and apply them to the whole region.

While Uighurs have traditionally practiced a more relaxed form of Islam, the popularity of veils for women in particular has grown in recent years in what experts say is an expression of opposition to Chinese controls.

Top Comment
I am eager to know Indian jholawalas/ award wapasi gang's comment on the issue.Arch Pagan

After a period of relative calm, there has been a rise in violence in recent months in the Xinjiang's southern Uighur heartland and a large increase in security.

Chinese President Xi Jinping called for a "great wall of iron" to safeguard Xinjiang during the annual meeting of China's parliament earlier this month.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...xtremism-in-xinjiang/articleshow/57909581.cms