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Quite a development - what do our Chinese friends have to say? Must be annoying, though, to name a successor five years in advance. :) Guess the only constant human characteristic is a desire for power.

From New York Times

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BEIJING — For years, China’s Communist Party has maintained a check on the power of its leaders by calling on them to retire if they have reached age 68 when a new term begins.

Now President Xi Jinping, already the strongest Chinese leader in decades, may be maneuvering to bend those rules to retain a formidable ally — and create a precedent he could use to extend his own time in power.

Mr. Xi, 63, who has shaken up many political norms, does not want to be shackled by an informal rule created by his predecessors, people close to senior officials have said.

Whether Mr. Xi can get away with changing the age ceiling for staying in the party’s top rank, the Politburo Standing Committee, has become a bellwether of how far he can consolidate his grip on a new party leadership that will be chosen in the fall.

Mr. Xi’s immediate goal appears to be opening the way to retaining Wang Qishan, who has led his signature anticorruption drive and become one of the most powerful and feared officials in China, those people and other observers said. Mr. Wang, who is 68, could be forced to step down this year if the informal age ceiling holds.

But keeping Mr. Wang in place would also create an example that Mr. Xi could follow to stay in power after his two terms as president end in 2023. Already, news that Mr. Xi may delay choosing his successor has fanned speculation that he wants to prolong his hold on power.

Mr. Wang’s fate has become one of the most intensely followed parts of the secretive maneuvering ahead of a Communist Party leadership shake-up late this year and is likely to be a topic of back-room speculation when the national legislature convenes here on Sunday.

Mr. Wang’s staying on is a strong possibility, though not a certainty, said a retired Chinese official who knows several leaders, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss elite political deliberations. He said that Mr. Xi said that the age rule was not absolute, which was understood by officials to mean that he wanted Mr. Wang to be considered for the next term.

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Wang Qishan, center, wields great power as the head of antigraft efforts. In trying to keep Mr. Wang despite his reaching the usual cutoff age of 68, Mr. Xi, left, may be setting a precedent for himself.

The blunt and combative Mr. Wang is an old friend of Mr. Xi’s. Since 2012, Mr. Wang has led the Communist Party’s discipline commission, overseeing the anticorruption campaign that has been a crowning feat of Mr. Xi’s tenure. Mr. Wang also expanded the commission’s role in policing loyalty to the party leader, making him a top political enforcer for Mr. Xi.

Along with his allegiance to Mr. Xi, Mr. Wang’s diverse achievements — including as deputy prime minister, mayor of Beijing and one of the government’s top financial firefighters — have fueled talk that Mr. Xi may want to install him as prime minister, shunting aside Li Keqiang, who was not Mr. Xi’s pick for the job.

A party congress this fall will almost certainly reappoint Mr. Xi as party general secretary for five more years and appoint a new team to serve under him. Five of seven members of the Politburo Standing Committee must retire then under the current age limits, including Mr. Wang.

But the rule, known as “seven up, eight down,” is not codified in any public documents. It says members of the Politburo Standing Committee who are 68 or older when the party congress meets every five years will retire, while officials 67 or younger remain in contention for the next term.

The retirement age has been changed for political ends before. In 1997, President Jiang Zemin imposed a ceiling of 70 to dispense with one rival, and five years later reduced it to 68 to push out another. (He made an exception for himself, staying on as party leader until he was 76.)

“The rules for succession are all unwritten and largely up for negotiation,” said Kerry Brown, a professor of Chinese studies at King’s College, London. “All Xi has to do is play the ‘exceptional times need exceptional remedies’ card.”

But while Mr. Xi is formidable, he may have to make trade-offs. Mr. Wang’s chances of staying on may not survive the bartering among the party elite who choose the new lineup.

In particular, Mr. Xi may face suspicions that he wants to use Mr. Wang as a stalking horse for keeping power beyond the usual two terms as top leader. That, too, is an informal rule that has developed since the 1990s, when Deng Xiaoping sought to prevent another dictator-for-life like Mao.

By law, Mr. Xi can serve only two terms as president, but no law prevents him from retaining the more powerful post of party leader or some other position. Mr. Xi will turn 69 in 2022 when his second term as party general secretary ends.

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The Politburo Standing Committee last year. Lifting its age ceiling would signal how much Mr. Xi can rewrite the rules to tighten his grip on the party leadership being chosen in the fall.

Neither Mr. Xi nor Mr. Wang has said anything publicly about his plans. That would be nearly unthinkable hubris in the shadow play of Chinese politics, where ambition and power plays come cloaked in high-minded rhetoric and rules.

But the talk about Mr. Wang took off last October, when a party official, Deng Maosheng, told foreign reporters in Beijing that the age rule was not set in stone.

“The strict boundaries of ‘seven up, eight down’ don’t exist,” he said, according to Bloomberg. “This is something from folklore.”

At the time, it was unclear whether Mr. Deng was echoing the views at the top of the party. His comments were not reported in Chinese media.

But before Mr. Deng’s public remarks, Mr. Xi had said behind closed doors that the age rule was “not absolute,” said the former official who knows several members of the party leadership.

His account was corroborated by a former American official with extensive high-level contacts in China. He spoke on condition of anonymity to protect those contacts. He said two people who meet with senior leaders had told him that Mr. Xi had played down the “seven up, eight down” rule.

Both unnamed sources said that, as far as they knew, Mr. Xi had not yet expressly demanded that Mr. Wang be kept on. Instead, by raising the age issue, Mr. Xi has signaled that Mr. Wang should be considered in discussions over coming months.

The bond between Mr. Xi and Mr. Wang goes back about five decades to Mao’s turbulent Cultural Revolution, when they were both sent from Beijing to work in the dusty, poor hill country of northwestern China. Mr. Wang worked on a commune 50 miles from Mr. Xi, who has recalled visiting Mr. Wang for a night and giving him a book on economics.

After Deng Xiaoping began to free up the economy in the late 1970s, Mr. Wang abandoned a nascent career as a historian and became an expert on economic reforms. In the 1990s and early 2000s he took a series of government jobs cleaning up financial messes.

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Souvenirs near Tiananmen Square bearing the images of Chinese leaders, past and present.

As deputy prime minister from 2008 to 2013, he was a crucial player in economic talks with the United States. After the global financial crisis erupted, he led a group of officials assigned to design China’s response.

“You were my teacher,” Mr. Wang told Henry M. Paulson Jr., a Treasury secretary under President George W. Bush, Mr. Paulson wrote in a book on dealing with China. “We aren’t sure we should be learning from you anymore.”

Mr. Wang also displays a deep red streak of faith in authoritarian one-party rule not so far from Mr. Xi’s convictions.

“Wang is pragmatic and cleareyed,” said Trey McArver, the director of China research for TS Lombard, an investment research company. “But it’s a mistake to see him as a liberal free-marketeer. Rather, he is a reformer in the Chinese sense of the word. He will seek to increase the efficiency of the state-controlled system.”

Some in Beijing say they believe that with China’s economy slowing and straining under debt, and President Trump threatening to curb Chinese exports, Mr. Xi could make a case for making Mr. Wang prime minister.

“It seems clear to me that Xi would trust Wang more than Li and, as we know, Li was not Xi’s choice,” said Tony Saich, a professor at Harvard who specializes in Chinese politics. “The replacement of Li by Wang might provide a chance to kick-start stalled reforms after the next congress.”

Most insiders consider the move unlikely, however. Mr. Wang would be reluctant to take the job unless Mr. Xi gave him a bigger say over the economy, said Deng Yuwen, a commentator in Beijing who formerly edited a party newspaper. Mr. Xi might be unwilling to share that power.

“The reason Li can’t get much done is that everyone knows where the real power is,” Mr. Deng said. “Wang Qishan would certainly want to be more like a traditional premier, with more power over the major economic decisions.”

The retired official said that Mr. Wang had told friends that he was ready to retire at the end of the year. But Mr. Wang has also said he never expected to become the head of the party’s anticorruption agency, and has warned officials always to be prepared for unexpected tasks.

“Look it up, before the 18th Party Congress, nobody expected it, inside and outside the party, here and abroad, when Wang Qishan became the central discipline inspection commission secretary,” Mr. Wang told officials in a video that leaked online last year. “What’s the Communist Party about? You do whatever the party tells you.”

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By Chris Buckley, NYT

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/02/world/asia/xi-jinping-china-retirement-rules.html
 
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Quite a development - what do our Chinese friends have to say? Must be annoying, though, to name a successor five years in advance. :) Guess the only constant human characteristic is a desire for power.

From New York Times

*****

BEIJING — For years, China’s Communist Party has maintained a check on the power of its leaders by calling on them to retire if they have reached age 68 when a new term begins.

Now President Xi Jinping, already the strongest Chinese leader in decades, may be maneuvering to bend those rules to retain a formidable ally — and create a precedent he could use to extend his own time in power.

Mr. Xi, 63, who has shaken up many political norms, does not want to be shackled by an informal rule created by his predecessors, people close to senior officials have said.

Whether Mr. Xi can get away with changing the age ceiling for staying in the party’s top rank, the Politburo Standing Committee, has become a bellwether of how far he can consolidate his grip on a new party leadership that will be chosen in the fall.

Mr. Xi’s immediate goal appears to be opening the way to retaining Wang Qishan, who has led his signature anticorruption drive and become one of the most powerful and feared officials in China, those people and other observers said. Mr. Wang, who is 68, could be forced to step down this year if the informal age ceiling holds.

But keeping Mr. Wang in place would also create an example that Mr. Xi could follow to stay in power after his two terms as president end in 2023. Already, news that Mr. Xi may delay choosing his successor has fanned speculation that he wants to prolong his hold on power.

Mr. Wang’s fate has become one of the most intensely followed parts of the secretive maneuvering ahead of a Communist Party leadership shake-up late this year and is likely to be a topic of back-room speculation when the national legislature convenes here on Sunday.

Mr. Wang’s staying on is a strong possibility, though not a certainty, said a retired Chinese official who knows several leaders, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss elite political deliberations. He said that Mr. Xi said that the age rule was not absolute, which was understood by officials to mean that he wanted Mr. Wang to be considered for the next term.

02china-wang-2-master675.jpg

Wang Qishan, center, wields great power as the head of antigraft efforts. In trying to keep Mr. Wang despite his reaching the usual cutoff age of 68, Mr. Xi, left, may be setting a precedent for himself.

The blunt and combative Mr. Wang is an old friend of Mr. Xi’s. Since 2012, Mr. Wang has led the Communist Party’s discipline commission, overseeing the anticorruption campaign that has been a crowning feat of Mr. Xi’s tenure. Mr. Wang also expanded the commission’s role in policing loyalty to the party leader, making him a top political enforcer for Mr. Xi.

Along with his allegiance to Mr. Xi, Mr. Wang’s diverse achievements — including as deputy prime minister, mayor of Beijing and one of the government’s top financial firefighters — have fueled talk that Mr. Xi may want to install him as prime minister, shunting aside Li Keqiang, who was not Mr. Xi’s pick for the job.

A party congress this fall will almost certainly reappoint Mr. Xi as party general secretary for five more years and appoint a new team to serve under him. Five of seven members of the Politburo Standing Committee must retire then under the current age limits, including Mr. Wang.

But the rule, known as “seven up, eight down,” is not codified in any public documents. It says members of the Politburo Standing Committee who are 68 or older when the party congress meets every five years will retire, while officials 67 or younger remain in contention for the next term.

The retirement age has been changed for political ends before. In 1997, President Jiang Zemin imposed a ceiling of 70 to dispense with one rival, and five years later reduced it to 68 to push out another. (He made an exception for himself, staying on as party leader until he was 76.)

“The rules for succession are all unwritten and largely up for negotiation,” said Kerry Brown, a professor of Chinese studies at King’s College, London. “All Xi has to do is play the ‘exceptional times need exceptional remedies’ card.”

But while Mr. Xi is formidable, he may have to make trade-offs. Mr. Wang’s chances of staying on may not survive the bartering among the party elite who choose the new lineup.

In particular, Mr. Xi may face suspicions that he wants to use Mr. Wang as a stalking horse for keeping power beyond the usual two terms as top leader. That, too, is an informal rule that has developed since the 1990s, when Deng Xiaoping sought to prevent another dictator-for-life like Mao.

By law, Mr. Xi can serve only two terms as president, but no law prevents him from retaining the more powerful post of party leader or some other position. Mr. Xi will turn 69 in 2022 when his second term as party general secretary ends.

02china-wang-3-master675.jpg

The Politburo Standing Committee last year. Lifting its age ceiling would signal how much Mr. Xi can rewrite the rules to tighten his grip on the party leadership being chosen in the fall.

Neither Mr. Xi nor Mr. Wang has said anything publicly about his plans. That would be nearly unthinkable hubris in the shadow play of Chinese politics, where ambition and power plays come cloaked in high-minded rhetoric and rules.

But the talk about Mr. Wang took off last October, when a party official, Deng Maosheng, told foreign reporters in Beijing that the age rule was not set in stone.

“The strict boundaries of ‘seven up, eight down’ don’t exist,” he said, according to Bloomberg. “This is something from folklore.”

At the time, it was unclear whether Mr. Deng was echoing the views at the top of the party. His comments were not reported in Chinese media.

But before Mr. Deng’s public remarks, Mr. Xi had said behind closed doors that the age rule was “not absolute,” said the former official who knows several members of the party leadership.

His account was corroborated by a former American official with extensive high-level contacts in China. He spoke on condition of anonymity to protect those contacts. He said two people who meet with senior leaders had told him that Mr. Xi had played down the “seven up, eight down” rule.

Both unnamed sources said that, as far as they knew, Mr. Xi had not yet expressly demanded that Mr. Wang be kept on. Instead, by raising the age issue, Mr. Xi has signaled that Mr. Wang should be considered in discussions over coming months.

The bond between Mr. Xi and Mr. Wang goes back about five decades to Mao’s turbulent Cultural Revolution, when they were both sent from Beijing to work in the dusty, poor hill country of northwestern China. Mr. Wang worked on a commune 50 miles from Mr. Xi, who has recalled visiting Mr. Wang for a night and giving him a book on economics.

After Deng Xiaoping began to free up the economy in the late 1970s, Mr. Wang abandoned a nascent career as a historian and became an expert on economic reforms. In the 1990s and early 2000s he took a series of government jobs cleaning up financial messes.

02china-wang-4-master675.jpg

Souvenirs near Tiananmen Square bearing the images of Chinese leaders, past and present.

As deputy prime minister from 2008 to 2013, he was a crucial player in economic talks with the United States. After the global financial crisis erupted, he led a group of officials assigned to design China’s response.

“You were my teacher,” Mr. Wang told Henry M. Paulson Jr., a Treasury secretary under President George W. Bush, Mr. Paulson wrote in a book on dealing with China. “We aren’t sure we should be learning from you anymore.”

Mr. Wang also displays a deep red streak of faith in authoritarian one-party rule not so far from Mr. Xi’s convictions.

“Wang is pragmatic and cleareyed,” said Trey McArver, the director of China research for TS Lombard, an investment research company. “But it’s a mistake to see him as a liberal free-marketeer. Rather, he is a reformer in the Chinese sense of the word. He will seek to increase the efficiency of the state-controlled system.”

Some in Beijing say they believe that with China’s economy slowing and straining under debt, and President Trump threatening to curb Chinese exports, Mr. Xi could make a case for making Mr. Wang prime minister.

“It seems clear to me that Xi would trust Wang more than Li and, as we know, Li was not Xi’s choice,” said Tony Saich, a professor at Harvard who specializes in Chinese politics. “The replacement of Li by Wang might provide a chance to kick-start stalled reforms after the next congress.”

Most insiders consider the move unlikely, however. Mr. Wang would be reluctant to take the job unless Mr. Xi gave him a bigger say over the economy, said Deng Yuwen, a commentator in Beijing who formerly edited a party newspaper. Mr. Xi might be unwilling to share that power.

“The reason Li can’t get much done is that everyone knows where the real power is,” Mr. Deng said. “Wang Qishan would certainly want to be more like a traditional premier, with more power over the major economic decisions.”

The retired official said that Mr. Wang had told friends that he was ready to retire at the end of the year. But Mr. Wang has also said he never expected to become the head of the party’s anticorruption agency, and has warned officials always to be prepared for unexpected tasks.

“Look it up, before the 18th Party Congress, nobody expected it, inside and outside the party, here and abroad, when Wang Qishan became the central discipline inspection commission secretary,” Mr. Wang told officials in a video that leaked online last year. “What’s the Communist Party about? You do whatever the party tells you.”

*****

By Chris Buckley, NYT

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/02/world/asia/xi-jinping-china-retirement-rules.html

Very fake news, trump said thousands of times
 
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Well, both Dem & GOP love to spread the alternative facts, although Trump is also a godfather of the fake news, but he was also right about CNN, NYT, BBC, etc. being a bunch of fake news fabricants.

BTW, we Chinese simply love to see the fake news from both side keep fighting each other.
 
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rules can change for more efficient governance or are Indians ok with the status quo and be stuck in the past for all time?

Why so defensive? I'm not passing any judgment on the Chinese system.

Just saying that

either there should be no term limits - as we have

or there should be term limits and leaders should abide by them

2 term limit for president in the constitution, personally I think he did a good job but how xi can change that for himself

Interesting - I did not know the term limit was a constitutional feature in China. But constitutional limits can and are overcome - see what Erdoogan did in Turkey or what Putin did in Russia - or Honduras, Nicaragua, Guyana - most recently Rwanda. So a constitutional safeguard is good but can be overcome by determined leaders.

Back to topic - Are future Chinese leaders named 5 years in advance? Must be an odd arrangement with such a long waiting period.
 
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Who the new dumb wasting time to discuss the new spin-offs and twists from the New York Times? Spending time to read its Fake News (TM) is really a waste!

Even Donald Trump finds it as contemptible!

They are both contemptible.

The two barking dogs (Dem & GOP) need to keep biting each other to death.
 
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When Trump questioned the One-China policy the Chinese on PDF abused him, called him an idiot, a fool, a child, etc. etc.

But now they're falling over each other to quote him, to extol him, become his fanboys and worship him for calling NYT 'fake news'. :sarcastic:

The joys of irony
 
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While they have also debunked Trump as a true scammer.

This is good for China, since the dual party will forever stick in an endless fight.
NOT ONLY for China, but also for the worldwide mankind to see with their wide-opening eyes and mind the center nexus of the lies, provided any critical thoughts and common sense still exist after swallowing up all the pumped out lies for so long... practically since we're born, able to read and develop the cognitive capability until nowadays (don't think there's any octogenarian here).
 
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