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Xi fears Japan-led manufacturing exodus from China


I think Vietnam and Bangladesh, also Thailand and Philippines will expand their share in low-end manufacturing. But I'm pessimistic about Indonesia's chances. Indonesian workers already had a reputation for laziness, and recent Wahhabi-fication of society influence made it even worse. No manufacturing business can be viable if workers need to interrupt their workshift 5 times a day to pray. Or if they complain about working in a hot factory but also refuse to stop wearing a stuffy burqa.

For the time being, Indons will have to rely on mainstays like remittance from maids, exports of palm oil, unprocessed rubber, cash crops, etc.

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Chinese President Xi Jinping and containers stacked at Yangshan Deepwater Port in Shanghai: China's growth model will be at risk if manufacturers relocate to other countries to be less China-dependent. (Nikkei Montage/Source photo by Reuters/Getty Images)
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Xi fears Japan-led manufacturing exodus from China
The year of the metal rat returns every 60 years -- and brings calamity with it

KATSUJI NAKAZAWA, Nikkei senior staff writerAPRIL 16, 2020 04:20 JST
TOKYO -- Amid the coronavirus pandemic, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has proposed building an economy that is less dependent on one country, China, so that the nation can better avoid supply chain disruptions.

The call touched off a heated debate in the Chinese political world.

In Zhongnanhai, the area in central Beijing where leaders of the Chinese Communist Party and the state government have their offices, "there are now serious concerns over foreign companies withdrawing from China," a Chinese economic source said. "What has particularly been talked about is the clause in Japan's emergency economic package that encourages (and funds) the re-establishment of supply chains."

Had the pandemic not struck, Chinese President Xi Jinping's maiden state visit to Japan would have been wrapped up by now with Xi proudly declaring a "new era" of Sino-Japanese relations. He would have cheered on Abe as Japan prepared for the next big event, the 2020 Olympics.

Instead, both Xi's trip and the Tokyo Olympics have been postponed, and Sino-Japanese relations find themselves at a crossroads.

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Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe was clear about the direction he wants Japanese manufacturers to take -- away from an over-reliance on China. (Photo by Uichiro Kasai)
Signals of Abe's new policy were visible as early as March 5.

Japan had finally been able to put the Diamond Princess cruise ship disaster behind it but was still snowed under by the challenge of preventing the virus's further spread.

On that date, coincidentally the same day the postponement of Xi's Japan visit was announced, the Japanese government held a meeting of the Council on Investments for the Future. Abe, who chairs the council, said he wanted high value-added product manufacturing bases to come home to Japan.

At the table were influential business leaders such as Hiroaki Nakanishi, chairman of the Japan Business Federation, the country's biggest business lobby better known as Keidanren.

"Due to the coronavirus, fewer products are coming from China to Japan," Abe said. "People are worried about our supply chains."

Of the products that rely heavily on a single country for manufacturing, "we should try to relocate high added value items to Japan," the leader said. "And for everything else, we should diversify to countries like those in ASEAN."

Abe's remarks were clear. They came as disruptions hit the procurement of auto parts and other products for which Japan relies on China, seriously impacting corporate Japan's activities.

And they asked for something more than the traditional "China plus one" concept, in which companies add a non-China location to diversify production.

Abe was forming a "shift away from China" policy.

With the nation transfixed by coronavirus coverage, the proposal failed to generate big headlines in Japan.

But China was watching carefully, perhaps wondering whether it was about to undergo an industrial hollowing-out like Japan once experienced.

Such a trend would shake the foundation of China's long-standing growth model.

In its emergency economic package adopted on April 7, the Japanese government called for the re-establishment of supply chains that have been hit by the virus's proliferation. It earmarked more than 240 billion yen (about $2.2 billion) in its supplementary budget plan for fiscal 2020 to assist domestic companies to move production back home or to diversify their production bases into Southeast Asia. It is a tidy sum of money.

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Chinese President Xi Jinping and Politburo Standing Committee members Wang Huning, Li Zhanshu and Li Keqiang attend a wreath laying ceremony in Beijing's Tiananmen Square on Sept. 30, 2019.
The next day, April 8, China's Politburo Standing Committee, the party's top decision-making body, held a meeting in Beijing.

Speaking at the meeting, President Xi said that "as the pandemic continues its global spread, the world economy faces a mounting downside risk." He added, "Unstable and uncertain factors are notably increasing."

Xi, who doubles as the party's general secretary, stressed the need to stick to "bottom-line thinking" -- which means assuming the worst -- and called for "preparedness in mind and work to cope with prolonged external environment changes."

The seven-member Politburo Standing Committee usually meets once a week, and it is rare for the holding and content of these meetings to be reported.

Xi sounded the call to prepare for "a protracted battle" while assuming the worst.

There are talks in the U.S. regarding China dependency.

Larry Kudlow, chairman of the White House's National Economic Council, has expressed his intention to consider shouldering the relocation costs of American companies returning home from China.

It fits with President Donald Trump's "America first" agenda.

If the U.S. and Japan, the world's biggest and third-biggest economies respectively, move away from China, it will have a huge impact on the world's second-biggest economy.

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U.S. President Donald Trump and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe appear to be on the same page when it comes supply chains in China, much to Chinese President Xi Jinping's chagrin. © Kyodo
One topic has now set tongues wagging in the world of Chinese intellectuals. According to the Chinese astrology chart, 2020 is the year of Geng-Zi, or the metal rat, which comes once every 60 years.

It is said that every time the year of the metal rat rolls around a big history-shaking incident takes place.

In 1840, during the Qing dynasty, the Opium War broke out, leading to China's stagnation for more than a century.

Sixty years later, in 1900, toward the end of the Qing dynasty, forces from an alliance of eight nations -- the U.K., U.S., Germany, France, Italy, Russia, Japan and Austria-Hungary -- moved from Tianjin to Beijing, an incident triggered by the Boxer Rebellion, which had started in 1899.

"55 Days at Peking" is an American film starring Charlton Heston and depicting the siege of the foreign legations' compounds in Peking, now known as Beijing, during the Boxer Rebellion.

The metal rat's next return, in 1960, coincided with a famine caused by the Great Leap Forward led by Mao Zedong, the founding father of "a new China," or the People's Republic of China.

Yang Jisheng, a former journalist for Xinhua News Agency who lost his foster father to the famine, later authored "Tombstone," a detailed reportage about the epic disaster.

Based on field work and interviews, Yang revealed that as many as 36 million people died of hunger during the Great Leap Forward, far more than China once announced.

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Silkworm cocoon harvesting during the Great Leap Forward. The last time the year of the metal rat came around, the Great Leap Forward was pushing China into a devastating famine. (Photo by Keystone-France/Gamma-Keystone via Getty Images) © Getty Images
What will this year's metal rat jinx be like for China?

The peak of China's coronavirus outbreak has passed. But Zhang Wenhong, the head of a coronavirus clinical expert team whose profile has been on the rise, has said a second round of infections will hit in November or later.

During the 1918-1920 Spanish flu pandemic, the second wave of infections was more serious than the first. No pandemic has been more deadly since then. Estimates are that 500 million people, a third of the planet's population, were infected and that 50 million died.

Zhong Nanshan, an 83-year-old medical doctor, has shined since 2003, when he played a major role in the fight against severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS.

The new coronavirus has already mutated, and its death rate has reached levels up to 20 times higher than that for influenza, Zhong has warned.

The new virus emerged in China late last year and then spread globally. China's crackdown on information and social media posts regarding the outbreak through mid-January and its delayed initial response to the public health crisis ended up contributing to a catastrophe and sparking an international uproar.

Trump had been calling the coronavirus "the Chinese virus," although he has since stopped doing so.

Global public opinion will greatly affect the re-establishment of a post-virus world order. As things stand now, those moving to take the initiative are the U.S. and China.

In ancient China, bamboo strips were the main canvas for documents before the introduction of paper. They were called "green logs" because bamboo strips are green before they are cured and sewn into books.

Bamboo strips are official documents that are kept for posterity, and it was important for an emperor to inscribe his name on them.

If the scourge of the coronavirus were to drastically change the world order in the 21st century, will it be the U.S. or China that inscribes the bamboo strips? China cannot afford to lose.

Much will depend on how the U.S. and China rebuild their respective virus-hit economies. If major foreign companies withdraw from China, it will become a big drag on the Middle Kingdom's economic revival.

Katsuji Nakazawa is a Tokyo-based senior staff writer and editorial writer at Nikkei. He has spent seven years in China as a correspondent and later as China bureau chief. He is the 2014 recipient of the Vaughn-Ueda International Journalist prize for international reporting.
Japanese writer do a self bragging report for assessment? I don't trust this Japanese report. First of all, gone are the days when most of the world wide consumer product companies are from Japan. Chinese brand and companies constitute a big source of consumer products. Secondly, China itself is a big market for consumer products. That will be another pulling factor when building your production base. Didn't Tesla build a mega factory in Shanghai? More or less show their long term future plan and optimistic of China future.
 
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ambition... lol, let me ask you this: software development is free. all you need is a computer, a brain and spare time.

where is Vietnamese Alibaba or Baidu?

simple proof that you don't have enough ambition.
FPT Software headquartered in Hanoi
28,000 employees
$1 billion in revenue

Offices in many countries
10 alone in Japan


FPT Chairman Truong Gia Binh visited DIP's Tokyo office in November 2019, marking the first high-level meeting between the two companies (Photo: Business Wire)
 
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Those people who have engineering degree, either in Indonesia or Bangladesh, have responsibilities to set up home grown manufacturing companies in the country. We must include entrepreneurship subject to be put on our STEM college/faculties.

Absolutely. Agree 100%. On the topic, we should also be inviting older/retired technology experts to come to our colleges to teach these technical vocational skills from Japan, Germany, US, UK. Subjects should include machining, sheet metal work and welding to start with. We should be doing this from our own private and govt. sectors in our Asian countries, not just leave it up to those in US/EU (like ZTG for example). They are under severe budget restraint themselves.

Japanese writer do a self bragging report for assessment? I don't trust this Japanese report. First of all, gone are the days when most of the world wide consumer product companies are from Japan. Chinese brand and companies constitute a big source of consumer products. Secondly, China itself is a big market for consumer products. That will be another pulling factor when building your production base. Didn't Tesla build a mega factory in Shanghai? More or less show their long term future plan and optimistic of China future.

A lot of products made in China don't say made in China openly because of industry prejudice.

Like Range Rover UK is owned by Tata India (and may use Indian parts/design) but they don't openly publicize.

I believe there are also Volvo cars and SUV's almost 100% made in China which are sold in the US.

I'm more than sure a lot of the luxury cars sold in the US have majority Chinese parts.

Luxury products are sold based on panache and prestige, and the public in US are not ready to accept that these products or companies can be based in non European locations. So we keep playing this game.
 
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FPT Software headquartered in Hanoi
28,000 employees
$1 billion in revenue

Offices in many countries
10 alone in Japan


FPT Chairman Truong Gia Binh visited DIP's Tokyo office in November 2019, marking the first high-level meeting between the two companies (Photo: Business Wire)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FPT_Software

$370 M in revenue. Why do you Vietnamese lie when these things are easily verifiable? And this isn't even comparable to Alibaba because FPT does IT outsourcing services. It doesn't produce any software products. It's closer to Infosys which is still bigger.

Even if comparable it is a little more than 1/200th of Alibaba.
 
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I think Vietnam and Bangladesh, also Thailand and Philippines will expand their share in low-end manufacturing. But I'm pessimistic about Indonesia's chances. Indonesian workers already had a reputation for laziness, and recent Wahhabi-fication of society influence made it even worse. No manufacturing business can be viable if workers need to interrupt their workshift 5 times a day to pray. Or if they complain about working in a hot factory but also refuse to stop wearing a stuffy burqa.

For the time being, Indons will have to rely on mainstays like remittance from maids, exports of palm oil, unprocessed rubber, cash crops, etc.

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Sure sure, Indonesia only export unprocessed commodities, but this only happened in other earth where Chinese people doesnt spread out killer virus like SARS and Commies 19 Virus

http://www.toyotaindonesiamanufacturing.co.id/news-and-update/ekspor-toyota-indonesia-melejit-53

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https://m.medcom.id/foto/otomotif/GNGXyAzb-kapasitas-produksi-toyota-motor-manufacturing-indonesia

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FPT_Software

$370 M in revenue. Why do you Vietnamese lie when these things are easily verifiable? And this isn't even comparable to Alibaba because FPT does IT outsourcing services. It doesn't produce any software products. It's closer to Infosys which is still bigger.

Even if comparable it is a little more than 1/200th of Alibaba.
What lie? You are too shallow.
Wiki cites the 2018 figure.
Now we are in year 2020. FPT Software generates $1b. The group generates $2b per year in total.

https://www.fpt-software.com/about-fpt-software/

no software?

FPT Software signs a $100m contract with a German company.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...provide-technological-solutions-idUSKBN1FE0EK
 
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What lie? You are too shallow.
Wiki cites the 2018 figure.
Now we are in year 2020. FPT Software generates $1b. The group generates $2b per year in total.

https://www.fpt-software.com/about-fpt-software/

no software?

FPT Software signs a $100m contract with a German company.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...provide-technological-solutions-idUSKBN1FE0EK

managing IT infrastructure is not the same as producing a branded software product.

FPT's own website states that they're in managing solutions and BPO business, not creating software products.

just face it, Vietnam has a small, backwards and noninnovative economy. there's nothing you can do about it.
 
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managing IT infrastructure is not the same as producing a branded software product.

FPT's own website states that they're in managing solutions and BPO business, not creating software products.

just face it, Vietnam has a small, backwards and noninnovative economy. there's nothing you can do about it.
There is nothing we can do?
if we plant more bananas will you be more happier?
 
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"Japanese government intervenes and bribes companies with tax money to shun the opportunities provided by the Chinese market and infrastructure"

Ah yes free market capitalism.

Bribing companies with billions to leave China also greatly illustrates how it is the companies wish to flee China, not just the wish of politicians and dreamers trolling on boards like these.
 
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China became arrogant and stupid and pissed off everybody. the US is angry. Japan is Angry. Muslims are angry about Uyigurs. Europe is angry.

Being uncivilized the Chinese never understood the importance of getting along and behaving like human beings not genocidal meniacs that sell body parts of their political prisoners, ethnically cleanse entire nations, rape, torture, brainwash. Raise to the ground the entire cultural heritage of a Xingjiang. Insect eating, rat, bat, dog, freak eating nation that has no morality or humanity left.

Who really wants to be your friend? Think about it.
 
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Manufacturing start exodus from China should not be a new news.

Economic law demand manufacturer to find location with cheaper labour cost, while China is labour salary is getting higher.
China will be like Japan or Korea where the high tech manufacturing focus there, and let the low tech manufacturing move to SEA, or SA.
 
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