Would Imran Khan Govt balance out relations between China and Japan

[monitor]

Pakistan should diversi

 

[imadul]

Did you forget the Gwadar-Singapore drama?

CPEC is not only about China. Its a lot more than just one project. It connects all of Central Asia to Pakistan. It's certainly not one source. We are putting Pakistani interests first by working with the strongest country that is not swayed by other hostile powers.
Russia and Iran are the other countries we should be bringing onboard, and as far as I know both have supported it.

Japan has interests elsewhere and their commitment to linking Pakistan to Central Asia is questionable at best. As far as I know we already have cooperation with Japan in the automotive sector. We are not dismissing them on the basis of our relations with China.

To further strengthen the "CPEC" project and avoid over reliance on China, we need to stabilize Afghanistan and have multiple routes north via that country.

Dont know insides of gawadar-singapore issue. May be Pak played that to placate some fears "somewhere"!
You erred on CPEC that it connects Pak to central Asia. That's other OBOR route from Urumaqi to Tehran, to Istanbul , Moscow Germany; like CPEC.
CEPC itself is not a pill for Pakistan's all ills as Dr. Jia Yu of Pecking University said at CPEC 2018.
"Pakistan should not take CPEC for granted, writes Dr. Jia Yu. Both public and private sectors must take ownership of the opportunities".
I didn't say any increased cooperation with Japan is a substitute for CPEC. What I am saying that Pakistan should not just rely on CPEC which you have also alluded to, I am emphasizing about over reliance and dependency upon CPEC because "factors" could change. Other thing, CPEC in China's interest as it will alleviate Malacca dilemma. No objection on CPEC, there is consensus in Pakistan over CPEC. Hope that clears my analysis.

 

[BHarwana]

Yes Pakistan should improve trade relations with Japan only if Japan brings a balance between India and Pakistan. Like Japan is a major factor of Pakistani trade deficit and Japan should import more fruits and textile from Pakistan. Japan came to offer Pakistan loans but Pakistan don't needs Japanese loans instead Pakistan needs Japan to lower it's discriminating policies of imports that hurt Pakistani goods like they have to import more food products from Pakistan and bring a balance between India and Pakistan or Pakistan cannot bring a balance between China and Japan.

 

[Mahmood-ur-Rehman]

Strategic and foreign relations are not zero sum game.
Even before CPEC Pakistan was heavily tilted towards China for obvious reasons but Japan is World's 3rd largest economy.

US, $20.4 trillion
China $14 trillion
Japan $5.1 trillion
--- 2018 World Economic Forum

IK govt should also establish flourishing economic and industrial relations with Japan along with China. Japan has superior technologies and all the eggs should not be put in just one basket.
Focus should also go to EU as Pak-US old relations are bygone.

Japan policy is a problem not Pakistan. Japan as a puppet of America only serve the western design .We gave them monopoly in our market what they done not a single unit of manufacturing by Japan in Pakistan.Now Japan has to compete with China in Pakistan Honeymoon period of Japan is over in Pakistan

 

[BHarwana]

Japan policy is a problem not Pakistan. Japan as a puppet of America only serve the western design .We gave them monopoly in our market what they done not a single unit of manufacturing by Japan in Pakistan.Now Japan has to compete with China in Pakistan Honeymoon period of Japan is over in Pakistan

Japan is feeling the pain because Chinese and European manufacturers have now access to Pakistani market.

 

[maximuswarrior]

China is not the US that will discourage or blackmail Pakistan to this or do that. China will always encourage Pakistan to diversify and engage in more trade.

It is up to Pakistan to guage with the rest of the world to further trade relations.

Japan is feeling the pain because Chinese and European manufacturers have now access to Pakistani market.

Japan's interest in CPEC stems from massive Chinese investment. It is not based on a sincere effort to further trade relations with Pakistan. We have to view Chinese Japanese historical relations to understand the latter's interest in CPEC.

I fully support trade relations between Japan and Pakistan, but we have to understand where thr sudden Japanese interest stems from.

 

[haidian]

We don't have dipolatic connections to Taiwan because of China.... For fcuk sakes, CHINA HAS DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS WOTH TAIWAN.
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China has what..? besides, neither do US, Russia, India and 99% of all nations in the world have diplomatic relations with Taiwan.

China never tried to stop Pakistan from building good relations with any country, Pakistan's economic development is the very thing that China likes to see the most. China loves to see US , Japan and other western countries to invest in Pakistan and become part of road and belt development, So this discussion is pointless, When was the last time that China tried to stop Pakistan from improving relations with anyone? Including even India.

The more countries involved, the better future for CPEC and the overall economy of Pakistan.

 

[Rusty]

China has what..? besides, neither do US, Russia, India and 99% of all nations in the world have diplomatic relations with Taiwan.


China never tried to stop Pakistan from building good relations with any country, Pakistan's economic development is the very thing that China likes to see the most. China loves to see US , Japan and other western countries to invest in Pakistan and becomes part of road and belt development, So this discussion is pointless, When was the last time that China tried to stop Pakistan from improving relations with anyone? Including even India.

Exactly. Pakistan loves to be in the friend zone where we will fall on our swords for our love.

China has never stopped is from connecting to Taiwan... Yet here we are.

It's so embarresing

 

[haidian]

Exactly. Pakistan loves to be in the friend zone where we will fall on our swords for our love.

China has never stopped is from connecting to Taiwan... Yet here we are.

It's so embarresing

Taiwan is another issue, we have no problme for Taiwan's investment in Pakistan, actually we love to see that, but you are talking about diplomatic relationship, tell me one major country on this planet having diplomatic relationship with Taiwan and why Pakistan should do so? just to spite China?

 

[maximuswarrior]

Exactly. Pakistan loves to be in the friend zone where we will fall on our swords for our love.

China has never stopped is from connecting to Taiwan... Yet here we are.

It's so embarresing

Pakistan will approach Taiwan through China. Taiwan is Chinese territory and we fully recognize this.

Taiwan is another issue, we have no problme for Taiwan's investment in Pakistan, actually we love to see that, but you are talking about diplomatic relationship, tell me one major country on this planet having diplomatic relationship with Taiwan and why Pakistan should do so? just to spite China?

Don't worry. Pakistan won't be doing this. Pakistan fully recognizes Taiwan as one China policy.

 

[Rusty]

Taiwan is another issue, we have no problme for Taiwan's investment in Pakistan, actually we love to see that, but you are talking about diplomatic relationship, tell me one major country on this planet having diplomatic relationship with Taiwan and why Pakistan should do so? just to spite China?

When I say diplomatic, I mean the EXACT same kind of relationship that China has with Taiwan.

 

[haidian]

When I say diplomatic, I mean the EXACT same kind of relationship that China has with Taiwan.

Your relations can be better with them than mainland China, mainland China and Taiwan are not always on good terms actually, I don't see anything wrong with it, Taiwan does business with every country and we never tried to stop that.

 

[jupiter2007]

See, this mentality is why we can never be a great nation.

Bismarck once said something like " great Nations put their intereste first"

Why are we concerned with China so much?
We don't have dipolatic connections to Taiwan because of China.... For fcuk sakes, CHINA HAS DIPLOMATIC RELATIONS WOTH TAIWAN.

we need to engage everyone regardless of other countries pressures.

China is important to us, but they don't own us.

China can be a great friend but they don’t give us anything for free. They do what is best for their interest. It’s China’s interest to support Pakistan against India.
As far as CPEC is concern, it’s mostly benefits China. What is Pakistan getting in return?
China is willing to give us loan on high interest. If we continue this trend, time will come that we will not be able to payoff the loans and China will own everything in Pakistan.

 

[maximuswarrior]

China can be a great friend but they don’t give us anything for free. They do what is best for their interest. It’s China’s interest to support Pakistan against India.
As far as CPEC is concern, it’s mostly benefits China. What is Pakistan getting in return?
China is willing to give us loan on high interest. If we continue this trend, time will come that China will own everything in Pakistan.

Nothing is free.

What did Pakistan get in return for American F-16s and aid? Humiliation, accusations, FATF grey list, sanctions and do more lectures.

Let's not be nasty to a nation which is willing to invest in Pakistan. The whole world looked the other way after Pakistan was bleeding from terror incidents emanating from Afghanistan. Instead they ganged up and accused Pakistan. Guess which country embraced Pakistan. It wasn't the West or the USA I can assure you.

Yes, China is not investing for free and why should they? Your logic can be applied to any nation willing to do business in Pakistan.

It is an illogical argument that China is looking after its interests. Everyone already knows that. The question is what is Pakistan getting in return? Pakistan is getting a massive amount in return. No other country is offering or can offer the deal China is offering.

 

[El Sidd]

Japan should first come clean on that Mujib sculpture misadventure.