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World's biggest population looks towards Pakistan for food.

First of all toba has scarcity of water and agriculture is done from irrigation rather than underground water. As most of the underground water in toba is bitter. So cotton is good as it requires less water.

Now what has happened to the crop?
I cannot tell you from here what is the actual problem but looking at the crop in the pic the growth of plant is not high so the yield will be less. The disease which attacked this crop did it on early stage. The color of leaves indicate of disease but fruit is full so there was a attack of sfaid makhi and a disease but the actual problem was the seed. The seed used was not good. Plus rains did some damage in early stage.

yes you are spot on, water scarcity + bitter underground water (anything can be done about bitter water?)
Almost all of them faced this situation, most of them shifted to maize at early stages to avoid loss.

i will share with them what you said when i next visit.
if there's anything more you can share, i really felt sorry for them as cotton is giving good price this season.
 
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Chinese agri-business operating in Pakistan would help with -

  • introducing modern practices
  • introducing modern technology
  • introducing branding
  • introducing cold chain logistics

All this could then disseminate to the local farmers who could be incentivized to improve and compete in the global markets starting with China.
 
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yes you are spot on, water scarcity + bitter underground water (anything can be done about bitter water?)
Almost all of them faced this situation, most of them shifted to maize at early stages to avoid loss.

i will share with them what you said when i next visit.
if there's anything more you can share, i really felt sorry for them as cotton is giving good price this season.
Cotton needs very good soil and less humidity or water at least it requires 100 water free days. In some areas of toba the cotton crop is good but bad in most areas. They should only cultivate small pockets and test different seeds which suits them. The best thing is to use gypsum or 2323 fertilizer it help with salinity problem to some extent. I have been to toba and citrus farming is good as it can handle bitterness. I will check for more and tag you regarding to toba.
 
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Even India has higher productivity.
indians are collaborating with UK and USA for crop improvement they even have HQ of ICRISAT (International Crops Research Institute for the Semi-Arid Tropics) in india which sends scientists abroad to get trained and brings in scientists for technology transfer....ICRISAT has partnerships with many different international research stations and this is where MOST of their improved crops come in! In addition to that the indian scientists abroad advertise their research and actually collaborate with india....Pakistanis on the other hand undermine it and refuse to even contribute/ collaborate (both sides the ones abroad as well as the ones in Pakistan)

When I was in UK my supervisor was also doing some projects and while I was there, we had a visitor associate prof I think who came to present his project + propose a collaboration....He offered to hire me but my supervisor stepped in and mentioned some problems they were facing from india and stuff...I was petrified coz I no way wanted to step in india (sorry but my ancestors left that land for good reason I aint gonna go there and reverse that even if I was hired on the spot!)...

Pakistan on the other hand doesnt have INTERNATIONAL level anything for crop research...You write to them with a proposal (I did several times) and they dont even bother replying your emails - lovely image they send while warming their rare on high end positions!

They do small scale projects (even PARC! I am disappointed with that piece of shit), which usually are done by the peon rather than a student with a scientific background or even a scientists....the reports are dodgy and some even fishy! Those who should be doing the field checks/ farmer training and introducing the crops and building the bridge from education to farmer which in America is called extension is all messed up! The only thing they are capable of doing is growing seeds/ testing seeds that are formulated on other soils (American seeds) ....this is bad because you never know how the crop will behave on your soil and climate!

Long story short...Pak is not comparable to india when it comes to crop improvement we are too far behind and no one in the field is interested in helping catch up!
 
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Don’t sell land to China. They should be asked to irrigate land where water is less through drip irrigation.

This can be done in all districts. Because good chunk of land isn’t cultivated even where water is available.
 
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This is the best way forward. Pakistan agriculture is still primitive after 70 years of independence and is a national shame. Even India has higher productivity. What we need to do is lease out say 2.5% of land in various districts of Pakistan to Chinese agri-business concerns. Then we need a system where all other farmers can look at and copy the best practices that these Chinese agri-businesses bring in. This should serve to first introduce modern technology and trade linkages with Chinese market. This could be a great example of finding a niche in the global tradimg order. With a market of 1.4 billion in China we could not go wrong.

All that can be done without giving up farmland.

https://www.livemint.com/Politics/m...ing-new-technology-for-the-Indian-farmer.html

https://www.thebetterindia.com/128245/farmer-couple-israeli-technology/
 
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Cotton needs very good soil and less humidity or water at least it requires 100 water free days. In some areas of toba the cotton crop is good but bad in most areas. They should only cultivate small pockets and test different seeds which suits them. The best thing is to use gypsum or 2323 fertilizer it help with salinity problem to some extent. I have been to toba and citrus farming is good as it can handle bitterness. I will check for more and tag you regarding to toba.
Jazakallah Khair.

yes anything regarding Toba, tag me.
i have noted down gypsum +2323 fertilizer --- any resource where i can read more about gypsum for bitter underground water. (gypsum must be mixed in soil?)
 
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This is the best way forward. Pakistan agriculture is still primitive after 70 years of independence and is a national shame. Even India has higher productivity. What we need to do is lease out say 2.5% of land in various districts of Pakistan to Chinese agri-business concerns. Then we need a system where all other farmers can look at and copy the best practices that these Chinese agri-businesses bring in. This should serve to first introduce modern technology and trade linkages with Chinese market. This could be a great example of finding a niche in the global trading order. With a market of 1.4 billion in China we could not go wrong.

I couldn't disagree more. I get the sentiment, but the practical suggests you mentioned are the wrong move for us as a nation. Frankly I'd rather we not utilise this potential at all, rather than be ripped off by someone else. Having others farm our land would make us amongst the stupidest people on earth, even stupider than tinpot African regimes who do this sort of stuff.

We have 200 million people and millions more popping out every years. These people need jobs. We have huge swathes of under utilised state owned lands. We have the means to do our own farming, we should do exactly that. Hire all these people on state owned farms to grow crops and pay them a salary. Even if it is pendus with 16th century tools farming, it's still better than foreigners doing it. Why because firstly because our people are employed and secondly because we own all the produce and all the profits. We could export this food, or use it domestically and increase the export quotas for the wider industry. So what if other people can do it more efficiently? What do we benefit from them making more profits? Nothing.

Modern farming is not rocket science. It's automation, it's up skilling your labour force, it's using IT, it's utilising scientific know how to increase yield and crop resistance (we've both watched countryfile from time to time....lol). There is nothing in this field that we don't have in our country. The only thing we don't have is implementation because the small scale farmers lack know-how and the large scale fuedals don't need it. They have slave/bonded labour and tax free income so what do they care for maximising yield?!

We need to start these farms with the most profitable scale of hi-low tech so we can get a large scale operation going, producing as much as we can as cheaply as we can. Then we need to invest in it to get teams of horticulturalists and agriculturalists involved in managing these farms and making them as productive as possible using any means necessary.

Why let someone else do something today, which we can do tomorrow.


Agree 100%. Some Pakistani farmers are starting already.

https://profit.pakistantoday.com.pk...e-pakistans-water-crisis-and-food-insecurity/

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1798666/1-drip-irrigation-help-conserve-water/
 
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Very impressive but not forget smaller and medium class farmers give them all facilitation from easy processing loan free technical education for farming crops and a necesarry water
 
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Jazakallah Khair.

yes anything regarding Toba, tag me.
i have noted down gypsum +2323 fertilizer --- any resource where i can read more about gypsum for bitter underground water. (gypsum must be mixed in soil?)
Gypsum is very cheap you can get a truck load of it from khushab. But if you can the soil ph tested and get advice from your local agri department that would help you more. Call the local officer to guide you. He will do it free of cost it is his job.

https://www.croplife.com/crop-input...riculture-5-key-benefits-you-should-know/?amp
 
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What about the 2nd biggest population out there? We need to be more thoughtful - or are we?

 
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We must be careful. No foreign owned farms, no leasing of farm land, no foreign workers on the farms.

Farming is the easiest industry for us to expand. The idiots in government should use state land to make state owned farms and hire farmers on a salary to make produce. These farms should be managed by people with qualifications in horticulture, agriculture and ecology.
Food/agriculture/livetstocks etc. are strategic sectors....
 
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