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Yes that will need to be sorted out in tandem obv (thats really the crux of the larger issue in the end). But this way at least there is less "the mod didn't see it/it didnt get reported" kind of buffer/excuse that gets passed around too much rite now (esp for real time)....and ppl can more genuinely choose if this forum is for them etc form the results of that.

The old "who will guard the guards" problem, eh? :D

Over the last several years, "like-minded" people have been intentionally pulled up through the ranks with the inevitable results we see here.
 
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The old "who will guard the guards" problem, eh? :D

Over the last several years, "like-minded" people have been intentionally pulled up through the ranks with the inevitable results we see here.

You are a Yoda here....leave me ...a mere luke (still clinging to some ideals/hopes) to be :D

I will learn the reality soon enough too most likely.
 
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Hi, I just want to raise my hand and say yes i do talk a lot of contentious subjects like aliens/ human rights / religion /ancient history etc., but i don't mean harm to anyone from it. apologies to any that may have been offended.
 
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You are a Yoda here....leave me ...a mere luke (still clinging to some ideals/hopes) to be :D

I will learn the reality soon enough too most likely.

Everybody learns reality, sooner or later, some the easy way and some not. Please do carry on! :D
 
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We all have our prejudices and biases.

The PDF management is extremely biased against Indians.

They are moderately right wing in bias, and insulting/threatening of liberal, progressive and non-conformist Pakistanis is deliberately ignored

Only like-minded people are pulled up through the ranks to make sure that this forum delivers what it's supposed to deliver
The old "who will guard the guards" problem, eh? :D

Over the last several years, "like-minded" people have been intentionally pulled up through the ranks with the inevitable results we see here.
 
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Then what is this "if he is allowed here, I am outta here" mentality? Let each member exercise their free choice to participate or not, and let management continue to run their forum as they see fit.

Problem solved.

And the system achieves its designed results, always.

Who? I don't care who is or isn't allowed here. I'm just saying keeping the company of racists and bigots will have it's effects on your psyche.
 
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We all have our prejudices and biases.

The PDF management is extremely biased against Indians.

They are moderately right wing in bias, and insulting/threatening of liberal, progressive and non-conformist Pakistanis is deliberately ignored

Only like-minded people are pulled up through the ranks to make sure that this forum delivers what it's supposed to deliver

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That is why I always respect the right of the management to run their forum as they see fit, and advocate others to do so as well, while exercising their choice of participating or not.
 
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We all have our prejudices and biases.

The PDF management is extremely biased against Indians.

They are moderately right wing in bias, and insulting/threatening of liberal, progressive and non-conformist Pakistanis is deliberately ignored

Only like-minded people are pulled up through the ranks to make sure that this forum delivers what it's supposed to deliver
But not in this case in which u agreed with rest of us.
 
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Who? I don't care who is or isn't allowed here. I'm just saying keeping the company of racists and bigots will have it's effects on your psyche.

My psyche, my problem. :D

Let everyone make their own choices for their company too.
 
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But not in this case in which u agreed with rest of us.

This was an exceptional case of undue favouritism, but on individual/personal level....

As for disagreeing with the rest of you in most cases, that's for discussion/argument purposes... We should always be open to contrasting and opposing views as it helps us understand things in a better way.
 
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This forum has more potential if domestic Pakistani issues are discussed by Pakistanis. My reason for staying here is engaging my fellow Pakistanis regarding issues related to our society and overall governance.

Weapons don't interest me neither the state of Indo-Pak relationship. The problem here is when particular Indian members open threads just for the intention of trolling or post something stupid on a Pakistan specific topic. This means even if its a serious post by an Indian member, it will be responded with idiocy by a Pakistani member as a default reaction to seeing the flags. As a result, we get in a circle of insults and an issue which was supposed to be discussed by Pakistanis gets lost in the mud.

One way forward could be reducing access to Indians when it comes to the Pakistan affairs section. This doesn't mean limiting Indian access to Indo-Pak topics or defense/weapons related discussions.
 
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We already have the like and negative rating system that mirrors the prestiege points..
It does and it doesn't. It serves the purpose of forum members handing out positive ratings but only select few members can give negative ratings. Most important of all it doesn't allow or bar entry to a thread. A member with a ton of negative ratings(received from idiotic troll posts) can waltz in to a thread, where ppl with positive ratings(received for better non troll posts) are discussing something, and be obnoxious there.

The purpose of prestige points(or ratings in this case) isn't being served if a standard isn't being set in different sections of the forum based on that criteria. For example if a thread involves a sensitive subject like Kashmir and is more likely to attract trolls then the person creating the thread can set the prestige level at 2000(just picking an arbitrary number for this example). This means anyone below this prestige can only be a silent reader/observer. Only the members that meet this 2000 limit or exceed it can post their comments on that particular thread.
but the aspect of the forum I truly despise is the ELITE, SENIOR titles based on who posts more .. not what.
I totally agree...and yet we have sections like "senior's cafe" where a troll(with just a huge number of posts) can get access to it while non troll members may not be able to participate...just based on how many posts have been made. This again prioritizes quantity and doesn't take quality into account.

Rather it SHOULD be based on quality of posts and not quantity. This is exactly the purpose of proposed prestige points. Members can be given positive or negative prestige points on their posts by other members who come across it...based solely on the quality of the post. This would over time separate those ppl with quality posts from those whose posts are intended for flamebaiting. Then if a "senior's cafe" like section exists(based on prestige points judging quality of a member's posts and not quantity), it would end up segregating trolls to low prestige threads...thus keeping them out of high quality(high prestige threads).
 
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They've made a right winger the mod of the Turkish section, and now that forum has effectively become a no-go area for any non Turk who has an interest in Turkish affairs or surrounding regions/ethnicities where the Turks are directly involved, because this guy just has the sub-forum power to outright ban a member.

@jamahir @Beast @opruh @rambro

I make an exception with jamahir (and maybe you...but you are pretty pokey too)....but those other 3? Much power to that mod :D

Find me one Indian who like me .....

I kinda like you...we had some good discussion on the underwater pipelines vs EEZ legislation when I was new member here I remember.

I have personally never seen Areesh banned.

He has been banned, I have seem his name in pink a few times. Maybe not as much as needed if there was same equivalent standards for all though. Even though I say this, I consider him pretty funny lad....I just ignore about 99% of the threads where hes doing the usual stuff tho.

I've invested one ban on each letting them know exactly where they stood with me.

Heh...its stuff like this that makes me chuckle like nothing else doc lol.

I am not giving up on you Joe ... Few more days and you will effects of my chilla , 1 murghi 2 lemon aur 4 Hari mirchen qabrastan Mai gard di Hain ;)

Don't give up on me either! Too many people already have :D
 
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