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[Mage]

why anti-Pakistani or anti-Muslim hate posts are allowed here?

Why anti-Other Country(India, USA, Israel, Bangladesh etc) or anti-other religion hate posts are allowed here? Much more than anti-Pakistani or anti-Muslim hate posts. I do not support any hate posts but you simply cannot expect respect from those you disrespect or disgrace.

 

[coffee_cup]

Why anti-Other Country(India, USA, Israel, Bangladesh etc) or anti-other religion hate posts are allowed here? Much more than anti-Pakistani or anti-Muslim hate posts. I do not support any hate posts but you simply cannot expect respect from those you disrespect or disgrace.

At the very core it is a Pakistani forum.

To give you an analogy, have you by any chance seen Indian, Israeli or Bengali forums? If not, I would highly suggest to look around a bit...

We Pakistanis rightly call Mukti Bahini a terrorist organization, which was funded, armed, trained for cross-border terrorism by India, to create chaos, to blow up markets, schools, hospitals etc.

Now you might have a different point of view on that, but being on a Pakistani forum, do you expect me to call those terrorists some sort of heroes?

And why should we take and accept any trash thrown at the protectors of our country, our heroes, our soldiers, who are laying their lives so that we could live in peace?

And our moderators are doing a great job to contain all those "anti-other religion" posts. Far better than you would expect from an equal forum originating from India or Bangladesh.

 

[Mage]

To give you an analogy, have you by any chance seen Indian, Israeli or Bengali forums? If not, I would highly suggest to look around a bit...

I have seen Indian Defence Forum...And I can say PDF is much better than that. Isn't that why I and many more like me here? Do you want to make PDF like those Indian or Israeli forum?

We Pakistanis rightly call Mukti Bahini a terrorist organization, which was funded, armed, trained for cross-border terrorism by India, to create chaos, to blow up markets, schools, hospitals etc.

Now you might have a different point of view on that, but being on a Pakistani forum, do you expect me to call those terrorists some sort of heroes?

You do not have to call them heroes. But you can criticize them without calling them terrorists. We Bangladeshis will call them heroes. Be it a Pakistani forum, otherwise no point having a Bangladeshi section. Close that section as that section promotes anti-Pakistan views.

And why should we take and accept any trash thrown at the protectors of our country, our heroes, our soldiers, who are laying their lives so that we could live in peace?

So according to you, anti-Pakistan posts should not be allowed but anti-Other country posts should be allowed?
You know, this is in some form already implemented here. Abusing Pakistan, China, Turkey and at times Arabs and Iran are not allowed. But abusing others are more allowed. Depends a lot on the mods taking actions though. Every mods have their own bias.

What do you want? Tell me, do you want a situation where you are free to abuse India but an Indian is not allowed to reply in kind? Is this the atmosphere you want to create in this forum? Feel free to. Although I do not know how many nice and learned member would want to stay there in such atmosphere.

And our moderators are doing a great job to contain all those "anti-other religion" posts. Far better than you would expect from an equal forum originating from India or Bangladesh.

I hardly see actions taken against "cow-piss drinker" type remarks. And you comparing about forums originating from other countries, do you want PDF to be that way? This is a question to the admins too. I and I am sure many more like me are in PDF because PDF is not that type of forum. But then again, you cannot expect me to behave nicely after you abuse my country.

 

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I have seen Indian Defence Forum...And I can say PDF is much better than that. Isn't that why I and many more like me here? Do you want to make PDF like those Indian or Israeli forum?

We Pakistanis are far more lenient and tolerant. And as a result, we continuously let others take advantage of our hospitality. If you ask my personal opinion, I would give any poster from India, Bangladesh, Afghanistan or any other hostile countries - hell, even from Pakistan - who posts anti-Pakistani posts, immediate permanent bans. Fairness or no fairness. Its all about national interest and I believe in doing my bit at a personal level.

You do not have to call them heroes. But you can criticize them without calling them terrorists. We Bangladeshis will call them heroes. Be it a Pakistani forum, otherwise no point having a Bangladeshi section. Close that section as that section promotes anti-Pakistan views.

Mukti Bahini is a terrorist organization, trained, armed, financed for cross-border terrorism by India to blow up schools, markets, hospitals etc. They remain terrorists, just like BLA, TTP, LTTE. No matter what title you want to give them. Do not accept this Pakistani point of view? Hey, it is a free Internet world. No body is forcing you to come here and read that.

So according to you, anti-Pakistan posts should not be allowed but anti-Other country posts should be allowed?
You know, this is in some form already implemented here. Abusing Pakistan, China, Turkey and at times Arabs and Iran are not allowed. But abusing others are more allowed. Depends a lot on the mods taking actions though. Every mods have their own bias.

Again, stop whining. It is a Pakistani forum at the very core. And we should look at our own national interests. Allowing debates which help promote our point of view and stop anything that goes against it.

Call it whatever you want to, but this is how the world works. Countries look for their own self interest.

I hardly see actions taken against "cow-piss drinker" type remarks.

I have personally seen posters get banned for that. At a personal level, I consider religion being a very personal matter and I do not give a **** of what other people believe in as long as they do not harm me, my family or others around me for their religious believes.

But then again, you cannot expect me to behave nicely after you abuse my country.

Sure go ahead, dont behave "nicely", there are mechanisms in place on this site, that will take care of that.

 

[Mage]

I would give any poster from India, Bangladesh, Afghanistan or any other hostile countries - hell, even from Pakistan - who posts anti-Pakistani posts, immediate permanent bans. Fairness or no fairness.

What would you do to members who post anit-other country posts?

Mukti Bahini is a terrorist organization, trained, armed, financed for cross-border terrorism by India to blow up schools, markets, hospitals etc. T

For you maybe they are. Like for some of you maybe OBL is a martyr. Does not matter. For me Multi Bahini members are the greatest heroes of this subcontinent.

Do not accept this Pakistani point of view? Hey, it is a free Internet world. No body is forcing you to come here and read that.

Nobody till now, is stopping me from countering it either. Let me know, if there is a change in policy.

Again, stop whining. It is a Pakistani forum at the very core. And we should look at our own national interests. Allowing debates which help promote our point of view and stop anything that goes against it.

Call it whatever you want to, but this is how the world works. Countries look for their own self interest.

Answer directly. You don't want anti-Pakistani posts to be tolerated but you want anti-other country posts to be tolerated. Is that it? And is it a policy of this forum? @Oscar @WebMaster

I have personally seen posters get banned for that.

I have seen vast majority of this type of posts ignored.

Sure go ahead, dont behave "nicely", there are mechanisms in place on this site, that will take care of that.

Sure. InconsoIncon moderation will only lead to more Django incidents. And you will lose good quality members. Go ahead if this is good for this site.

 

[VCheng]

Answer directly. You don't want anti-Pakistani posts to be tolerated but you want anti-other country posts to be tolerated. Is that it? And is it a policy of this forum?

Is mere disagreement in views enough to label it as anti-Pakistan? Therein lies the problem.

 

[Mage]

Is mere disagreement in views enough to label it as anti-Pakistan? Therein lies the problem.

Here I assume, insults as anti Pakistan or anti any other country.

 

[VCheng]

Here I assume, insults as anti Pakistan or anti any other country.

Who gets to determine what is insulting and on what basis? This is just not possible in any consistent manner.

 

[coffee_cup]

What would you do to members who post anit-other country posts?

For you maybe they are. Like for some of you maybe OBL is a martyr. Does not matter. For me Multi Bahini members are the greatest heroes of this subcontinent.

Nobody till now, is stopping me from countering it either. Let me know, if there is a change in policy.

Answer directly. You don't want anti-Pakistani posts to be tolerated but you want anti-other country posts to be tolerated. Is that it? And is it a policy of this forum? @Oscar @WebMaster

I have seen vast majority of this type of posts ignored.

Sure. InconsoIncon moderation will only lead to more Django incidents. And you will lose good quality members. Go ahead if this is good for this site.

If you will keep glorifying terrorists of Mukti Bahini - who were trained for cross-border terrorism by Indians to blow up schools, hospitals , markets - on a Pakistani Forum, get ready for the eventual reaction from the protective mechanisms of this site.

LTTE, TTP, Mukti Bahini, BLA are well known terrorist organizations and glorifying their terrorist acts on a Pakistani forum should never be allowed.

 

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LTTE, TTP, Mukti Bahini, BLA are well known terrorist organizations and glorifying their terrorist acts on a Pakistani forum should never be allowed.

but it is being allowed!

 

[coffee_cup]

Is mere disagreement in views enough to label it as anti-Pakistan? Therein lies the problem.

There are bigots like Tarek Fatehs, Hussain Haqqani's, Altaf Hussain's who very "innocently" ask the same question.

I do not want to know what would have happened to them if they were Americans and have done the same thing to "harm/endanger American lives" by enticing violence against Americans.

 

[Mage]

Who gets to determine what is insulting and on what basis? This is just not possible in any consistent manner.

Derogatory remarks...it's hard to draw a line. What is derogatory? To a mod taking action, maybe calling ''a" an a$$hole is worth a ban. To the same mod or to another mod calling "a" or calling "b" an a$$hole is totally fine. That is why it's hard to set up an efficient moderation guideline.

 

[coffee_cup]

but it is being allowed!

This is what I am saying, we let others take advantage of our leniency and hospitality. Indian version of "neutrality" is required on this site, immediately!

 

[Mage]

If you will keep glorifying terrorists of Mukti Bahini - who were trained for cross-border terrorism by Indians to blow up schools, hospitals , markets - on a Pakistani Forum, get ready for the eventual reaction from the protective mechanisms of this site.

LTTE, TTP, Mukti Bahini, BLA are well known terrorist organizations and glorifying their terrorist acts on a Pakistani forum should never be allowed.

Well then, I will say again.

Mukti Bahini members are the greatest heroes of this subcontinent. Ban me if this violates any forum rule. I will take it proudly.

 

[VCheng]

There are bigots like Tarek Fatehs, Hussain Haqqani's, Altaf Hussain's who very "innocently" ask the same question.

I do not want to know what would have happened to them if they were Americans and have done the same thing to "harm/endanger American lives" by enticing violence against Americans.

A diversity of opinions is perfectly fine in an open society like USA. Any American can hold and express any opinion under the sun. But that is not the topic here, is it?

What the individuals you mention have are different views, that is all. And they have the right to express them. You or I may not agree with them, but the only way to respond is by putting forth your own arguments and views.

Derogatory remarks...it's hard to draw a line. What is derogatory? To a mod taking action, maybe calling ''a" an a$$hole is worth a ban. To the same mod or to another mod calling "a" or calling "b" an a$$hole is totally fine. That is why it's hard to set up an efficient moderation guideline.

Foul language is easy to identify, but possible to stop only if all offenders are punished equally, which is hard to do if the adjudicators themselves leans one way or another in terms of supporting or opposing the target of said foul language.