With Love, From Turkey

[Rashid Mahmood]

Lets hope the situation gets better in the summer.
The country needs some ''air''.

I will get an update, my brother is stationed there.

 

[Bouncer]

Met a few Turks while on a project in an African country. Always admired their work ethic. And always respected them for the love and pride they had for their motherland.

 

[The Eagle]

Zarvan is right, we have no brotherly bond with the minority athiest lobby of attaturk that hijacked our brotherly nation for almost a century, pak turkey relations have reached this pinacle due to erdogan and his islamic govt which is more in line with the ideology of pakistan, people should know now atleast that attaturk was an agent of the west, they created a hero among turks who would lead them away from caliphate and islamic system, if the allies had tried occupying turkey and abolishing caliphate by force they would've faced massive resistance and after 10-20 yrs caliphate would've been restored but the work wonders dont they?? The pawns of satan are smart, hell they are smart, no way the veteran armies of europe after whooping german *** woukd retreat so easily from gallopoli, alas when that happened the muslims were already too dumb to even begin understanding their plans except indians who grasped it to some extent and started khilafat movement which delayed it a little but what can u do, anyhow majority of turks are our bretherin and trust me the affiliation is purely religious, we have no sense of brotherhood to the minority seculars of turkey aka western stoogies most of whom erdogsn has now locked up...

Actually the context of discussion with @Zarvan were different than the scenario turned into. The love of Turkiye is the same or I would say more than and vise versa which indeed started with Religious bond and now even minorities in Pakistan love Turkiye like Muslim because of the bond through history. So, the point was that the bond is not just Muslim to Muslim but country to country as well that it's roots are long in past. I am a Muslim and have a special place in my heart for Turkiye due to Islam and our brotherly relations Pakistan-Turkiye and in the meantime a non-Muslim Pakistani also loves Turkiye due to Pakistan and Islam is not the reason for him at all so point discussed as this bond is getting stronger than before that even non-Muslims Pakistanis loves Turkiye. We both understand that what we discussed and Zarvan stated right as well.

 

[Baybars Han]

Zarvan is right, we have no brotherly bond with the minority athiest lobby of attaturk that hijacked our brotherly nation for almost a century, pak turkey relations have reached this pinacle due to erdogan and his islamic govt which is more in line with the ideology of pakistan, people should know now atleast that attaturk was an agent of the west, they created a hero among turks who would lead them away from caliphate and islamic system, if the allies had tried occupying turkey and abolishing caliphate by force they would've faced massive resistance and after 10-20 yrs caliphate would've been restored but the work wonders dont they?? The pawns of satan are smart, hell they are smart, no way the veteran armies of europe after whooping german *** woukd retreat so easily from gallopoli, alas when that happened the muslims were already too dumb to even begin understanding their plans except indians who grasped it to some extent and started khilafat movement which delayed it a little but what can u do, anyhow majority of turks are our bretherin and trust me the affiliation is purely religious, we have no sense of brotherhood to the minority seculars of turkey aka western stoogies most of whom erdogsn has now locked up...

Nobody retreated from gallipoli. They HAD TO. There was over 100k British-Anzac-French casualties. They didn't know what they were going to face.

Do you know that the ottoman sultans was in British ships agreeing to sign a treaty that carves the country into pieces. My friend you need to read what happened in 1915-1923 more carefully

 

[omega supremme]

With how many Muslim countries do we have such a bond?
The answer is none.

The answer is none my brother because Muslim nations were mostly puppets under western power and only true Islamic power or the central point of Islam was Ottoman empire. The Mughals were very quickly taken out in the name of trade by Britishers, other than that we were already under British raj so we weren't a part or state of Ottoman empire other Muslim nations like Saudia Arabia, Jordan and Palestine etc were but jews used people like Lawrence of Arabia and other tricks of their to remove the last strongest Islamic power The Ottoman Empire.

Note: Our bond is strong because we wanted the Ottoman empire to exist and therefore even under the British raj we fought for the Ottoman empire but it was made so fragile and finally the damage was done and westerns played very wisely.

I dont trust our ''Ummah brothers''

You don't trust the Ummah brothers because of the fall of Ottoman Empire and the most muslim nations today were once a part of you so you feel back stabbed but you should go more deep into the history and you will find it was all the westerners doing not the muslims themselves they were only fooled and used. The results are mostly infront of us countries like Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan and Lebanon etc. After dividing these people into separate countries westerns again fooled them and told them we are your allies and what is going on today in these countries is cleary in front of us all.


Note: You people yourself are accepting this that the americans had a hand behind the coup against Tayyip Erdogan is this not enough to know that only in the name of allies they still want to control you and keep their influence over you.

 

[Arsala.nKhan]

Turkey is good place for students and visitors!

 

[faaiq Sheikh]

Ankara is best city to visit

Bahtreeen hogaya ye tu

 

[Awan68]

As you can see,its not about religion(Ummah bs) people.
There is a bond that cannot be explained.its just there.

The only bond we have with them is religious, dont fool ur self and others and dont call the ummah bullshit, people like u love to promote liberal ideas yet are the first to insult others ideals, shove a cactus where the sun doesnt shine next time instead of calling things way beyond the grasp of ur obvious limited iq bullshit,

Nobody retreated from gallipoli. They HAD TO. There was over 100k British-Anzac-French casualties. They didn't know what they were going to face.

Do you know that the ottoman sultans was in British ships agreeing to sign a treaty that carves the country into pieces. My friend you need to read what happened in 1915-1923 more carefully

Actually the context of discussion with @Zarvan were different than the scenario turned into. The love of Turkiye is the same or I would say more than and vise versa which indeed started with Religious bond and now even minorities in Pakistan love Turkiye like Muslim because of the bond through history. So, the point was that the bond is not just Muslim to Muslim but country to country as well that it's roots are long in past. I am a Muslim and have a special place in my heart for Turkiye due to Islam and our brotherly relations Pakistan-Turkiye and in the meantime a non-Muslim Pakistani also loves Turkiye due to Pakistan and Islam is not the reason for him at all so point discussed as this bond is getting stronger than before that even non-Muslims Pakistanis loves Turkiye. We both understand that what we discussed and Zarvan stated right as well.

I can get behind that, well said!!!

Nobody retreated from gallipoli. They HAD TO. There was over 100k British-Anzac-French casualties. They didn't know what they were going to face.

Do you know that the ottoman sultans was in British ships agreeing to sign a treaty that carves the country into pieces. My friend you need to read what happened in 1915-1923 more carefully

Brother they have a habbit of letting their own die to forward thier agendas, ww1 was orchestrated to nullify ottoman empire, no way the allies were going back without achieving that objective, ofcourse they had to make the retreat believable, all thier high command had to do was issue 2 or 3 wrong orders on divison level n koombaya u have ur 100k casualities, smarten up bro, if attaturk had the love of the turks at heart he wouldnt have done himself what the invading allies came to do , he even banned public readings of the quran, the scraf, he basically banned islam, isnt that what the allies wanted??

 

[T-123456]

The only bond we have with them is religious, dont fool ur self and others and dont call the ummah bullshit, people like u love to promote liberal ideas yet are the first to insult others ideals, shove a cactus where the sun doesnt shine next time instead of calling things way beyond the grasp of ur obvious limited iq bullshit,

Cant handle it?
My limited IQ only allowes me to think so far so i call the ummah bs,a fantasy.

 

[Neptune]

I will get an update, my brother is stationed there.

Nice. I wonder speaking of stationed, where?

Btw bro which base you docked exactly for exercise. Aksaz? Because I remember that a while back we were observers for a multinational exercise during my time. There was a Pakistani crew at the mess hall if I remember correctly. Might have been crossed at the same base.

 

[Kebapçı Erhan]

At post 21 of this thread(page 2),i acknowledged that it started with religion but turned into something else.
Do you believe that in this day many Pakistanis see us as Muslims?
The Pakistani says:''It doesnt matter what kind of government Turkiye has,we still love Turkiye'',which would meant that even if we have a communist/atheist/socialist etc government,they would still love us,why would they say that?
@Zarvan is a good example,he is a devote Muslim but doesnt care what Turks believe or not,he still loves us,why would he say that?
If you went through the thread,many Pakistanis say the same,its beyond religion.
So my statement stays,it started with religion but it evolved into something else.
The Arab people dont have real representation in places where it matters(most international forums) because of their lack of unity and misrepresentation(mostly only nationalist fanboys),those that have a voice keep to themselves on Arabic forums(im a member on one in English) because on most international forums,people are anti Arab(especially against Gulf Arabs) and discriminate against them(witnessed it many times).
I advised the owner of an Arabic forum to talk to his government to establish a PR team to work on changing the view of the international community on Gulf Arabs but never heard anything.
So what im saying is that you need to do something to be someone(my signature says enough).
Btw,your signature says it all.

I see your point, I think we are both right.

 

[Awan68]

Cant handle it?
My limited IQ only allowes me to think so far so i call the ummah bs,a fantasy.

That is because u consider the ummah the alsauds, the khumenis, the gadafi regime, the sadam regime etc a bunch of assholes, think beyond that brother, we share the same religion with a billion people across the planet and according to what islam teaches me we are one body, one kin, one people that is what prophet(pbuh) teaches me that once a man is a muslim he is beyond race, colour etc, spare me if i dont let the sectarian regimes and mullahs teach me thier perverted version of islam, the same regimes that were planted by the zionists after ww1 to do thier bidding, i consider the muslim population of the world to be my bretherin and my heart beats for them and sorry for the harsh words before and remember that to the west and zionists the ummah is not a fantasy but a reality they strive to counter 24/7 as lord curzon of the british parliment once said that we must never let any kind of unity emerge amongst the muslims again, that is what lets them prevzil over us...

 

[Rashid Mahmood]

Nice. I wonder speaking of stationed, where?

Btw bro which base you docked exactly for exercise. Aksaz? Because I remember that a while back we were observers for a multinational exercise during my time. There was a Pakistani crew at the mess hall if I remember correctly. Might have been crossed at the same base.

Pakistan Embassy.

Yes Aksaz, but only for a day as we had exercises out at sea. It was in 2002.

 

[Winchester]

Even here there is a lot of respect among Turks for Pakistanis. You can sense that just by the way they talk to us.
I prefer going to a Turkish mosque for my Friday prayers too.

 

[RedEce]

Evergreen thread.