Will the next Iranian regime will be friendly with America and israel?

[Sineva]

Does he have a nickname? That names a mouthful

Yes,it reminds me of this famous scene

 

[VEVAK]

Because Italy and Greece have elections wherein any party with any idea/thought can take part. There are no popes in vatican deciding who can become candidate in Italy, which political thoughts are allowed and which political thought is against God. This is the difference and that's why they are no regimes.

Yes there are limits to freedom, just like how Spain does not allow seperatism (catalonia), however the limits are not based on some religious ideas, but by the interests of the country.

Iran needs a deep surgical operation. It has cancer. This is not a simple flu anymore. Cancer is its ideology (islamic communism) and the clerics and islamists are spreading this cancer through Iran. The tumors and those who spread the cancer cells should be removed. There is no checks and balances, no separation of powers (trias politica) in Iran. Those who have power or are near the power structure can do whatever they want.

The constitution should be changed and velayat faghih system should be abolished. Clerics back to mosque or they will end up drowning in persian gulf. If they don't back down they will be killed like in the french revolution where scores were settled with clerical power.

The French Revolution initially began with attacks on church corruption and the wealth of the higher clergy, an action with which even many Christians could identify, since the Roman Catholic church held a dominant role in pre-revolutionary France. During a two-year period known as the Reign of Terror, the episodes of anti-clericalism grew more violent than any in modern European history. The new revolutionary authorities suppressed the church; abolished the Catholic monarchy; nationalized church property; exiled 30,000 priests and killed hundreds more.

Again new demonstrations will start and I hope not that again violence and threats will be their response like against any demonstration in Iran. It's not a joke for people to see their savings/deposit fall more that 50% within a short period.

Whos going to kill them? YOU?

Who exactly do want as a leader? Fact is anyone that's motivated to be a leader in Iran can do so as long as they play by the rules of our system!!!!! And every country has it's own set of rules!

In the U.S. unless your with the Republican party or the Democratic Party and vetted by them they will not allow you to participate in any of the major televised debates during elections so yea you can run for president all you want but no one will know who the hell you are!!!!! Hence you will NOT win! The reason Iran can't do that is because so many Iranian Homes have Sat dishes that broadcast Farsi Speaking channels that would be able to effect the results!

And you keep saying the Clerics should do this and that and yet Ahmadinejad was no Clerk and most of the people that ran in Iran's last election were NOT clerics! YET a cleric won! And judging an individual simply because he is a clergy or not is a bit absurd!

And what problems in Iran do think will be solved by abolishing the Supreme Leader position? please be specific!

And fact is whether you like it or NOT vast majority of Iranians are Muslims and a large portion of them are religious!

 

[VEVAK]

it bring back hope , to middle class and poor people and increase morals and that alone help economy a lot it gave those brains that leaving the country a reason to stay

Come one you can't be that naïve to thin Iran's problems will go way simply by arresting 20 rich people! It's delusional!

Fact is today the Currency domino has already fallen! Today the best thing to invest in for any Iranian is foreign currency! Today in Iran once you get your paycheck unless you run and switch your paycheck or what you plan on saving from that paycheck into another currency you rick loosing as much as 10% of it by the time you get your next paycheck

And putting 100 of the richest people in Iran in chains is NOT going to fix that!

You wanna create hope then you have to do it by removing Religious restrictions in specific areas so people that have extra money have hope that if they invest in those areas rather than simply buying US Dollar they will have a high return in the future.

You wanna create hope then you have to ensure that putting your money in the bank will have just as high of a return as buying U.S. Dollars!

And the MAIN reason the U.S. was able to drop that currency domino in Iran is because Iran didn't have a tourism industry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And the reason we don't have a tourism industry is due to policies like HEJAB by Force! Now the Domino has fallen and without drastic actions it will NOT be fixed!

In terms of currency if it was me I would cut 3(4 for Rial) zeros from Iran's currency I would ensure that the money Iranians put inside Iranian banks & their paychecks will automatically go up based on U.S. currency values and if you have to print more money so be it the domino has already fallen and it's time for drastic measures to fix it!

 

[Sineva]

Whatever shah was at least pan-arabs did not dare to even think about attacking Iran. When Khomeini came from France all of them smelled blood of Iranians.

Yeaahh!,and just look at how well that worked out for saddam and iraq.The country was bled white,bankrupted and saddam was extremely fortunate just to have remained in power,and that was only because of the combined support of the arabs,the west and the soviets.But hey!,at least saddam in good old traditional "arab dictator" fashion could strut like a peacock in the region while blustering that he had "won" the war and "saved" his fellow arab brethren from the evil persian mullahs[lol!],tho he wasnt strutting for much longer after 1991....

In terms of currency if it was me I would cut 3(4 for Rial) zeros from Iran's currency I would ensure that the money Iranians put inside Iranian banks & their paychecks will automatically go up based on U.S. currency values and if you have to print more money so be it the domino has already fallen and it's time for drastic measures to fix it!

Its called a fixed exchange rate or a currency peg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixed_exchange-rate_system
It has some advantages but it also seems to have some big disadvantages as well.

 

[HamWatan]

How's a discussion of Saddam and the Iran-Iraq War proceeding without reference to a certain pretty huge plot...

 

[Tokhme khar]

Syria, Iraq and Lebanon have defacto become part of Iran. The US or Israel or for that matter Turkey can't do much about this, as Iran's position is very strong in these three countries.

Neither ISIS nor Al-Qaeda or the desperate sporadic missile attacks by the US and Israel in Syria will change the status quo. Iran and its allies today control 90% of Syria.

At the end of the day, the hillbilly and the joo have to come to terms with this reality.

 

[07_SeppDietrich]

lol i hope next iranian regime will be Ultra-Nationalist National Socialism faction that ideology that has long history of as Israel main nemesis ans also won't bring back monarchy because like what happen when Hitler rose to power

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

Whos going to kill them? YOU?

Who exactly do want as a leader? Fact is anyone that's motivated to be a leader in Iran can do so as long as they play by the rules of our system!!!!! And every country has it's own set of rules!

In the U.S. unless your with the Republican party or the Democratic Party and vetted by them they will not allow you to participate in any of the major televised debates during elections so yea you can run for president all you want but no one will know who the hell you are!!!!! Hence you will NOT win! The reason Iran can't do that is because so many Iranian Homes have Sat dishes that broadcast Farsi Speaking channels that would be able to effect the results!

And you keep saying the Clerics should do this and that and yet Ahmadinejad was no Clerk and most of the people that ran in Iran's last election were NOT clerics! YET a cleric won! And judging an individual simply because he is a clergy or not is a bit absurd!

And what problems in Iran do think will be solved by abolishing the Supreme Leader position? please be specific!

And fact is whether you like it or NOT vast majority of Iranians are Muslims and a large portion of them are religious!

People will punish them if they continue using violence instead of listening to peoples demands.
There will be no leaders in Iran, government will be elected.

Oh really? how would a nationalist become leader in Iran? playing rules, what rules? I put my shoes on those rules which are alien to my Iranian roots.

Stupid usa system has nothing to do with the system Iranians want, a parliamentary system wherein different parties compete to each other.

All islamists are clerics, with or without turban. Anyone who is allowed to take part in this system or election is a cleric, with or without turban. They are internationalists, they are islamists, they are communist shias, they are enemy of my country and my ethnicity.

Your perception of freedom is basically same as freedom in soviet union and north korea. You can be active in politics as long as you follow communist rules and respect communism. Well that's not called freedom anymore (following a state imposed ideology).

Only red lines in Iranian constitution should be:
-No federalism, no tribalism, no separatism are allowed, also not in politics and formation of political parties.
-Pre-islamic identity of Iran will be the inspiration for building up Iran.
-Insulting Iran or Iranian identity can be punishable.
-Iranian ethnicities build up Iran and Iran should stay an Iranian country in ethnic sense. No demographic change should be allowed in any circumstance which can disturb this balance. This is also to protect the identity of Iran.
-Foreign/global pressure is not allowed to change anything inside Iran which is not in interest of Iran.
-Iran is allowed to protect its interests and that of Iranians which are not citizens of Iran, but are Iranian in ethno-cultural sense.
-Iranian culture and identity will be a main course in schools for children to create a connectivity between Iran and its population.
-A ministry or department will be created which keeps controlling, developping Iranian identity and its revival. This ministry will be formed next to ministry of culture or will be a department of ministry of culture.
-Moral and family values are to be respected in the country and in the state and non-state media. Foreign media is allowed when accepting these rules, else they are to be censored for the parts which are in conflict with the moral and family values inside Iran.

 

[Kastor]

The next regime? I will try and be serious about the topic, yes, this regime will fall, not because of corruption but because it is unprofessional, ill-equipped and sleep at the wheel for the past 15 years. The economic war on Iran started a long time ago, and all these guys did was just talk and chant "Death to America".....they didn't even know that Israel and the U.S. were working overtime to bring down Iran...at any cost. Women, children, old people, sick people all be damned. They didn't let us buy civilian airplanes so innocent people can fly safely, they didn't let us buy medicine for newborns and elderly people, they didn't let us buy arms during the war when we were attacked. Fast forward our economy continues to be in shambles, we are on a no fly list, Asians and Europeans business people cannot visit Iran and then go to the USA without having their visas revoked. Our currency is fast becoming worthless, our banks will not be able to trade, soon our oil will not be sold to our best customers. Do you think this is survivable? These leaders have failed us, they have failed us because they did not see the war being waged against us for the past 40 years. They just made speeches, they gave support and money to flunkies and the cozied up with the worst ally one can have (Russia), the same ally that is busy selling us out to the Israelis and Americans. This is not survivable, they have squandered every opportunity the Americans and their mistakes have given us. These idiots, played the worst political chess I have ever seen studying history the past 20 years. Yes, this regime is toast, because they are not smart, educated, savvy and frankly good enough to be playing against Israel and the USA. They're Clergymen....nothing more, they are better suited to lead Friday Prayer than to lead a countries and it's institutions. I just hope our enemies don't succeed, I would hate to see Iran becoming a failed state like Syria, Iraq and Libya.

 

[Sineva]

People will punish them if they continue using violence instead of listening to peoples demands.
There will be no leaders in Iran, government will be elected.

Oh really? how would a nationalist become leader in Iran? playing rules, what rules? I put my shoes on those rules which are alien to my Iranian roots.

Stupid usa system has nothing to do with the system Iranians want, a parliamentary system wherein different parties compete to each other.

All islamists are clerics, with or without turban. Anyone who is allowed to take part in this system or election is a cleric, with or without turban. They are internationalists, they are islamists, they are communist shias, they are enemy of my country and my ethnicity.

Your perception of freedom is basically same as freedom in soviet union and north korea. You can be active in politics as long as you follow communist rules and respect communism. Well that's not called freedom anymore (following a state imposed ideology).

Only red lines in Iranian constitution should be:
-No federalism, no tribalism, no separatism are allowed, also not in politics and formation of political parties.
-Pre-islamic identity of Iran will be the inspiration for building up Iran.
-Insulting Iran or Iranian identity can be punishable.
-Iranian ethnicities build up Iran and Iran should stay an Iranian country in ethnic sense. No demographic change should be allowed in any circumstance which can disturb this balance. This is also to protect the identity of Iran.
-Foreign/global pressure is not allowed to change anything inside Iran which is not in interest of Iran.
-Iran is allowed to protect its interests and that of Iranians which are not citizens of Iran, but are Iranian in ethno-cultural sense.
-Iranian culture and identity will be a main course in schools for children to create a connectivity between Iran and its population.
-A ministry or department will be created which keeps controlling, developping Iranian identity and its revival. This ministry will be formed next to ministry of culture or will be a department of ministry of culture.
-Moral and family values are to be respected in the country and in the state and non-state media. Foreign media is allowed when accepting these rules, else they are to be censored for the parts which are in conflict with the moral and family values inside Iran.

WOW!!.So your "brilliant" idea/plan to make iran more free and democratic is to replace islamism with right wing nationalism?!.With all due respect theres really only one logical response to that:
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL...!!!!!!!!
What are you going to do for an encore!?,bring back the pahlavis as well!?,ask reza jr to return as the new shah perhaps!?.
I mean its funny,you complain about the lack of political freedom in the iri,but many of the policies you`re suggesting sound far more repressive and far less free,in fact most of the things you`ve listed are just the sort of things one would expect under a fascist or extreme right wing nationalist state,and they arent exactly known for their political tolerance and freedoms....far from it in fact.
PS
The idea of an "Islamist communist" is frankly about as silly,not to mention as politically incorrect,as the idea of a "commie nazi",ie a real oxymoron.

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WHICH IS THE BIGGER OXYMORON?

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

WOW!!.So your "brilliant" idea/plan to make iran more free and democratic is to replace islamism with right wing nationalism?!.With all due respect theres really only one logical response to that:
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL...!!!!!!!!
What are you going to do for an encore!?,bring back the pahlavis as well!?,ask reza jr to return as the new shah perhaps!?.
I mean its funny,you complain about the lack of political freedom in the iri,but many of the policies you`re suggesting sound far more repressive and far less free,in fact most of the things you`ve listed are just the sort of things one would expect under a fascist or extreme right wing nationalist state,and they arent exactly known for their political tolerance and freedoms....far from it in fact.
PS
The idea of an "Islamist communist" is frankly about as silly,not to mention as politically incorrect,as the idea of a "commie nazi",ie a real oxymoron.

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WHICH IS THE BIGGER OXYMORON?

Kid , Everyone here knows how I think about pahlavi jr. There is nothing extremist about not allowing separatism in your country, Just like how spain did not tolerate Catalonian independence movement.
As Israel constantly repeats that they have a jewish state with a Jewish identity, and as Saudi Arabia and Kuwait do not accept one single refugee who are even arab speaking, then Iran has all the right to practise those point which I mentioned.
No need to be ashamed at all for loving our country.

Tell me what you call a country where in state or state related organs own about 75% of the economy? You dont know that leftists and marxist-islamist MEK/MKO brought Khomeini? That Soviet puppet Tudeh party was the last party who kept working with Islamic Republic before totally being banned?

Shariati was a leftist. According to Mahmoud Taleghani, Ali Shariati was a thinker who created a school for revolution. The school guided young people to revolutionary action. Beheshti believes that Shariati’s work was fundamental to Islamic revolution.

According to Hamid Enayat, Shariati was not only a theorist but also an adherent of Islamic radicalism. Enayat believes that Shariati can be considered the founder of Islamic socialism. Enayat considers him to be one of the most beloved and popular individuals in Islamic radicalism and socialism.

According to Hamid Elgar, Shariati was the number one ideologue of the Islamic revolution.

The term nazi is short term for National-socialist. They were socialists and nationalists at the same time. However they killed the more radical left wing of the nazi party during the night of the long knives. In the start goebbels even said a communist can be converted to a National-socialist.

No one in the SA spoke more loudly for "a continuation of the German revolution" (as one prominent stormtrooper put it) than Röhm.[j] Röhm, as one of the earliest members of the Nazi Party, had participated in the Munich Beer Hall Putsch, an attempt by Hitler to seize power by force in 1923. A combat veteran of World War I, Röhm had recently boasted that he would execute 12 men in retaliation for the killing of any stormtrooper. Röhm saw violence as a means to political ends. He took seriously the socialist promise of National Socialism, and demanded that Hitler and the other party leaders initiate wide-ranging socialist reform in Germany.

 

[VEVAK]

Yeaahh!,and just look at how well that worked out for saddam and iraq.The country was bled white,bankrupted and saddam was extremely fortunate just to have remained in power,and that was only because of the combined support of the arabs,the west and the soviets.But hey!,at least saddam in good old traditional "arab dictator" fashion could strut like a peacock in the region while blustering that he had "won" the war and "saved" his fellow arab brethren from the evil persian mullahs[lol!],tho he wasnt strutting for much longer after 1991....


Its called a fixed exchange rate or a currency peg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fixed_exchange-rate_system
It has some advantages but it also seems to have some big disadvantages as well.

Fixed exchange rates wont work in Iran! Because it's not going to stop the rush towards buying foreign currency!

For Iran's currency to stabilize Iranians have to keep their Iranian currency inside Iranian banks and they only way you can stop the rush towards people running towards buying foreign currency as soon as they get their paychecks is by ensuring the amount of Iranian currency they have in the banks will go up based on U.S. dollars that way the Iranian government wouldn't have a shortage of foreign currency they will just print more Iranian currency and transfer them to the banks until the market stabilizes
and trying to make money by buying U.S. currency will be rendered inert because you'll make the same money by keeping your Iranian money inside Iranian banks

So if U.S. dollar doubles the government also ensures that the Iranian money in your bank also doubles! And it wouldn't matter how much Iran's currency value falls as long as the money Iranians have inside banks also goes up with it!

The currency domino has fallen and the only way to fix it is drastic measures such as that! And yes it's a drastic measure but this pace you have no choice! The fall of Iran's currency today has nothing to do with Iran's economy it's strictly a supply and demand problem out of fear!

 

[Sineva]

Fixed exchange rates wont work in Iran! Because it's not going to stop the rush towards buying foreign currency!

For Iran's currency to stabilize Iranians have to keep their Iranian currency inside Iranian banks and they only way you can stop the rush towards people running towards buying foreign currency as soon as they get their paychecks is by ensuring the amount of Iranian currency they have in the banks will go up based on U.S. dollars that way the Iranian government wouldn't have a shortage of foreign currency they will just print more Iranian currency and transfer them to the banks until the market stabilizes
and trying to make money by buying U.S. currency will be rendered inert because you'll make the same money by keeping your Iranian money inside Iranian banks

So if U.S. dollar doubles the government also ensures that the Iranian money in your bank also doubles! And it wouldn't matter how much Iran's currency value falls as long as the money Iranians have inside banks also goes up with it!

The currency domino has fallen and the only way to fix it is drastic measures such as that! And yes it's a drastic measure but this pace you have no choice! The fall of Iran's currency today has nothing to do with Iran's economy it's strictly a supply and demand problem out of fear!

Oh,I`m sorry I thought you were actually being serious for a change,silly me,my mistake.
What you are suggesting is nothing less that a recipe for hyperinflation and economic collapse,it is utter LUNACY!!.The only countries who have the luxury of printing money to solve their economic problems are:the dprk,who counterfeit other nations currencies ie the "superdollar",and of course the usa,whos currency is backed by the global oil trade.
You might want to google weimar republic hyperinflation,just so you can see what happens when you start printing more money to solve your economic problems.....oh,and it isnt pretty either.

Or if thats to far back in time for you how about zimbabwe and its....$100,000,000,000,000 note??!!.....wow 14 noughts!!!,what would that equivalent be in rials do you think?,personally I hope to god that iran never has to actually find that out.

 

[raptor22]

As I have said a million times fixing corruption does not increase Iran's GDP by any meaningful way! Hence it will not fix Iran's economic problem!

Iran is loosing grip of the most powerful marketing tool inside the country and loosing up to $20 Billion USD in international receipts on top of the brain drain and still people like you are fixated with corruption! IT's ABSURD!

I think the idea of fixing corruption is about gaining trust and bringing transparency to economy which is vital if you seek any changes in economy.
Iran current economical problem is mostly due to weak performance of central banks and its failure to adopt proper policies to control money stock in banks which is getting out of control which when it's not directed to the production would go in gold market, currency market or housing....

 

[Sineva]

I think the idea of fixing corruption is about gaining trust and bringing transparency to economy which is vital if you seek any changes in economy.
Iran current economical problem is mostly due to weak performance of central banks and its failure to adopt proper policies to control money stock in banks which is getting out of control which when it's not directed to the production would go in gold market, currency market or housing....

Well said,I agree.
The problem is that for a long time the government failed to really address the issue.One gets the feeling that rouhani & co thought that if they could do a deal with the west that it would then solve all or most of irans economic problems....well now the chickens have finally come home to roost and it really couldnt have happened at a worse time for iran.
The government now seems to finally realise the pickle they`re in but whether they`ve really got any ideas on how to actually deal with this or whether they just want to be seen to be doing something/anything is not fully clear yet.Oh well time will tell I guess,but its not looking that great at the moment,fingers crossed that it will get better and that we never see this sort of thing in iran.