Will Scrap 'Triple Talaq' Law If We Come To Power, Says Congress Leader

[Zibago]

I stand corrected then, thank you

Some how i am not surprised

I thought it was banned already in Pakistan and Iran.

It is he just doesnot know it

 

[Chhatrapati]

More recently, NATO is going in for regime change in Venezuela. Is NATO doing this out of humanitarian concern for Venezuelan people ??

Maybe or maybe not.

But don't tell me, a country with 10000000% inflation rate is not in a humanitarian crisis. This is when people go crazy when inflation rate goes up above 10% in India. Situation is getting worse and all the Venezuelan government can do is buy more weapons from China for crowd control.

 

[Jf Thunder]

Some how i am not surprised

It is he just doesnot know it

I just watched a drama where he just chanted talaq three times, and then BG music, and it was official
so I thought maybe it was legal

 

[HalfMoon]

I do not understand why people think instant divorce is not okay but divorce after after 3 months is okay. In the grand scheme of things of the married couple living separately for the rest of their lives, does three months really matter?

 

[Nilgiri]

A simple recent example : Syria and Libya existed as socialist states for decades until NATO sent thousands of terrorists aided by NATO forces to destroy those states. If anti-socialism was so attractive, those two states wouldn't have lost so many defenders and civilians ( tens of thousands of them in case of Libya and hundreds of thousands of them in case of Syria ). Why did it take military intervention ??

@Clutch already fact checked you on the Libyan "socialist" "success" (he actually LIVED there too unlike you).

India being socialist is only as a goal in the preamble and not much in day-to-day administration. How successful is India generally ?? As one example, around 300,000 farmers committed suicide in India between 1995 and 2015. In which socialist country has this happened ??

First of all their suicide rate has to be markedly different from the general population of India. Is it?

More recently, NATO is going in for regime change in Venezuela. Is NATO doing this out of humanitarian concern for Venezuelan people ??

I dunno, maybe you should first ask the lady that took her sick newborn baby to every Maduro run hospital in the area....each one rejected her and finally when one let her in....it was too late and the baby had died.

The same Maduro that could have let in medical supplies/donations from other countries (but it would have needed him admitting things were going badly because of his govt...which he still refuses to admit).

 

[Novice09]

They were collateral damage of the militancy vs Army. If Hindus really wanted them or used them, they would have been rebuilt.

Where are people raising their voice to rebuild those places? There are none. Because they were ruins and not in use anyway.

Babri Masjid on the other hand was destroyed in the heart of UP where no AFSPA was in place. It was destroyed even while 'protected' by Indian police. And the faith crores of us and abroad are associated with the place and we all want it rebuilt.

You wanted a list and I gave it to you... and now you are up with one more excuse...

I can understand...

India is secular because of HINDUS...

It was wrong of the government to interfere in religious matters. The issue should be left to be handled by the Muslim personal law board.

YES, and sharia law should implemented by doing away with that book which is called constitution by fools in India...

After all...

 

[AfrazulMandal]

India is secular because of HINDUS...

I can say India ceases to be secular nation because of Hindus.
Talk is cheap.
Rebuild the Babri masjid. Then we will talk.

 

[Novice09]

I can say India ceases to be secular nation because of Hindus.
Talk is cheap.
Rebuild the Babri masjid. Then we will talk.

Don't talk... not a problem...

Plus, INDIA is not a secular nation... as we all follow our respective religion...

 

[AfrazulMandal]

Don't talk... not a problem...

Plus, INDIA is not a secular nation... as we all follow our respective religion...

Oops. India is a secular republic.
But the State discriminates against Islam by turning a mute spectator when facing hindu terrorists.

 

[jamahir]

@Clutch already fact checked you on the Libyan "socialist" "success" (he actually LIVED there too unlike you).

No, @Clutch didn't fact check me. I have asked him when was he in Libya and what was he doing there. He hasn't answered yet. I am not doubting his being there but just want to understand why he said what he said.

First of all their suicide rate has to be markedly different from the general population of India. Is it?

Please elaborate.

I dunno, maybe you should first ask the lady that took her sick newborn baby to every Maduro run hospital in the area....each one rejected her and finally when one let her in....it was too late and the baby had died.

The same Maduro that could have let in medical supplies/donations from other countries (but it would have needed him admitting things were going badly because of his govt...which he still refuses to admit).

When did this happen ??

 

[Novice09]

Oops. India is a secular republic.
But the State discriminates against Islam by turning a mute spectator when facing hindu terrorists.

Yeah... terrorism do have a religion...thank you for SAYING that... and entire world is suffering from that...

Just by putting SECULAR word in constitution does not make India SECULAR...

SECULAR means... no religion... come out from the definition MADE by INDIAN MEDIA AND POLITICIANS...

 

[Tshering22]

I do not understand why people think instant divorce is not okay but divorce after after 3 months is okay. In the grand scheme of things of the married couple living separately for the rest of their lives, does three months really matter?

No it doesn't; but if you would know, much of these decisions also happen due to impulsive attitude or being in some form of strong emotion such as anger or sadness or even ego. Given today's instagram culture and the increasing number of divorces due to difficulty in adjusting with each other, instant divorce will lead to an instant breakdown of the society.

The three months, often give time for the couple to contemplate and in fact, many marriages are saved when the two involved think through their decision with a cool mind.

You must also realise that the 'instant divorce' (Triple Talaq here) is usually not with mutual consent in this case and the woman hardly has any say, particularly in triple talaq. As a simple Google search might show you online, numerous pending cases, especially those in illiterate and semi-literate strata of the society are a major challenge. In a community where polygamy is allowed and so is rapid divorce, much of the voice of women goes suppressed. That, is simply unacceptable.

Just as regressive and draconian practises such as sati and child marriage are illegal (they may happen in rural pockets even now, but are nonetheless illegal) so is this and must be stopped. There is absolutely no justification to 'using' a woman and then throwing her away just because of a mood swing.

In the bigger scheme of things, this could mean the difference of saving a family and destroying one. The US, with its borderline weird levels of so-called freedoms is one society which is one of the most unstable ones. While its economic and government institutions are world-renowned in their stability, their society is in the dumps. Absolute zero tolerance and adjustment with each other, high rates of infidelity due to "boredom" (a by-product of instant gratification and materialistic mindset), etc have destroyed their family structure.

From a stable family-based society in 50s and 60s, to the neanderthal-like social system where most children don't get to see their parents live together and spend time with many different partners of each of their parents, this results in a disturbed society and has a psychological impact.

We may have many bad things and shortcomings in economic and government structure compared to US, but in the matters of family as a social foundation, we are far, far ahead. And as family is a founding pillar of our society in the Subcontinent, it makes all the sense for two angry people in a wedlock to think through their decision and be given equal rights in addressing their matters through an impartial court system.

Simple as that.

Triple Talaq is uncivilized and reduces women to nothing more than a commodity; something unfathomable in today's society. Period.

Oops. India is a secular republic.
But the State discriminates against Islam by turning a mute spectator when facing hindu terrorists.

Secular means civil laws.

The judiciary of India is based on civil laws.

Hindus don't have a separate divorce law.

Christians don't have a separate divorce law.

Sikhs don't have a separate divorce law.

We don't have a separate divorce law.

In all our cases, we all have to go through the courts to settle the matter such that the rights of both sides are equally addressed in case the decision has to be made firm.

Only your variety of people have a problem following the national system.

BTW news flash for you; your co-religionists in Pakistan and Iran banned TT long back despite being Islamic countries.

Google is your friend here.

If you don't like being put on an equal pedestal with the rest of us, you are free to ride your so-called moral high-horse to Saudi Arabia to practise your commodity-trading mindset with women.

 

[Zibago]

I just watched a drama where he just chanted talaq three times, and then BG music, and it was official
so I thought maybe it was legal

You wouldnt watch Liar Liar for tips on matters concerning prenuptial agreements now would you

BTW news flash for you; your co-religionists in Pakistan and Iran banned TT long back despite being Islamic countries.

Way back in the 60,s now the talk is on in criminalizing it

 

[Tshering22]

Way back in the 60,s now the talk is on in criminalizing it

A very smart step.

The women of Pakistan have the same rights as the men and nothing can change that. Sadly, wannabe-Arabs of our country think that they will somehow metamorphose into someone else if they just come to the 21st century, even despite many other Muslim and even Arab countries showing signs of immense social progress.

Even after showing them examples of change in societies in such countries, they refuse to come to this era.

We have no other option but to hold their hand and pressure them to come to 2019.

 

[AfrazulMandal]

No it doesn't; but if you would know, much of these decisions also happen due to impulsive attitude or being in some form of strong emotion such as anger or sadness or even ego. Given today's instagram culture and the increasing number of divorces due to difficulty in adjusting with each other, instant divorce will lead to an instant breakdown of the society.

The three months, often give time for the couple to contemplate and in fact, many marriages are saved when the two involved think through their decision with a cool mind.

You must also realise that the 'instant divorce' (Triple Talaq here) is usually not with mutual consent in this case and the woman hardly has any say, particularly in triple talaq. As a simple Google search might show you online, numerous pending cases, especially those in illiterate and semi-literate strata of the society are a major challenge. In a community where polygamy is allowed and so is rapid divorce, much of the voice of women goes suppressed. That, is simply unacceptable.

Just as regressive and draconian practises such as sati and child marriage are illegal (they may happen in rural pockets even now, but are nonetheless illegal) so is this and must be stopped. There is absolutely no justification to 'using' a woman and then throwing her away just because of a mood swing.

In the bigger scheme of things, this could mean the difference of saving a family and destroying one. The US, with its borderline weird levels of so-called freedoms is one society which is one of the most unstable ones. While its economic and government institutions are world-renowned in their stability, their society is in the dumps. Absolute zero tolerance and adjustment with each other, high rates of infidelity due to "boredom" (a by-product of instant gratification and materialistic mindset), etc have destroyed their family structure.

From a stable family-based society in 50s and 60s, to the neanderthal-like social system where most children don't get to see their parents live together and spend time with many different partners of each of their parents, this results in a disturbed society and has a psychological impact.

We may have many bad things and shortcomings in economic and government structure compared to US, but in the matters of family as a social foundation, we are far, far ahead. And as family is a founding pillar of our society in the Subcontinent, it makes all the sense for two angry people in a wedlock to think through their decision and be given equal rights in addressing their matters through an impartial court system.

Simple as that.

Triple Talaq is uncivilized and reduces women to nothing more than a commodity; something unfathomable in today's society. Period.



Secular means civil laws.

The judiciary of India is based on civil laws.

Hindus don't have a separate divorce law.

Christians don't have a separate divorce law.

Sikhs don't have a separate divorce law.

We don't have a separate divorce law.

In all our cases, we all have to go through the courts to settle the matter such that the rights of both sides are equally addressed in case the decision has to be made firm.

Only your variety of people have a problem following the national system.

BTW news flash for you; your co-religionists in Pakistan and Iran banned TT long back despite being Islamic countries.

Google is your friend here.

If you don't like being put on an equal pedestal with the rest of us, you are free to ride your so-called moral high-horse to Saudi Arabia to practise your commodity-trading mindset with women.

I have no issue with keeping TTT.
But the secular state should not dictate what's in faith and not.