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Will Pakistan’s image change after it was proven right about Afghanistan?

Are you indian? and I can tell you why I asked .... the mention of Indian e-visa in your post triggers this question...you know there is a certain under tone in language can detect sometimes who is who...

"India announces emergency e-visa for Afghans "

See the post of people praising the hell outta them while we know that they will go through this screening process and most of them will get rejected so this is all propaganda from the indians.

Also a question to you, how tf does anything i said makes me an indian? I am going to report you for calling me such a slur, disgusting.
 
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"India announces emergency e-visa for Afghans "

See the post of people praising the hell outta them while we know that they will go through this screening process and most of them will get rejected so this is all propaganda from the indians.

Also a question to you, how tf does anything i said makes me an indian? I am going to report you for calling me such a slur, disgusting.
Go ahead I will find out...
 
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so if somebody disagrees and is secular, he must be Indian?


most indians are not secular .. just a collection of narrow minded racist bigots with brownie english accent.
I don‘t care abput the shithole India


Good to know...
and a religion that‘s even more backward than Islam


You know about Islam as much as my chair.
Still, for me there is no difference between people oppressing women andIndians bathing in a toilet called Ganges.


Oppressing women?.. who? non muslim faiths .. yes i agree.

Islam gives a bill of rights to women such as inheritance and right of divorce. Some retards faiths such as Cathoicism does not even give the women the right of divorce.



so once again who is every body that hates Pakistan?...
 
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Pakistan's image was it was supporting Taliban and this will only confirm it. I don't know how it will improve the image.


It wont... because we won and you lost. a loser never likes a winner.

Image with Russia, China , Iran and Turkey is that all matters in this geo economic game plan which our side has one the first and most important step.

ie Stablise Afganistan
I think Pakistan's image is bound with Taliban's behavior in Afghanistan, if they follow the promises they made of a fair Govt, women rights and protecting Minorities and keep peace, than world will eventually accept Taliban Govt, and those who are not bound by the hate or any evil towards Pakistan will praise its efforts towards bringing Peace to Afghanistan. I don't expect India or America to be in those who will undermine Pakistan and try their best to hurt its image and internal security.


You are assuming west & india went in there for noble reasons....

but that doesnt matter what matters is they stablise afganistan allow for minning , trade, energy to flow through afganistan.

Women right?.. is this a joke?.. india and west notorious abused muslim women from Algeria to Kashmir.. Only a idiot believes in that.
 
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Diaspora Afghans peddling lots of propaganda agaisnt Pak with gullible muslims diaspora falling for it including Pakistanis...



they are upset because they are the biggest losers

like i said no loser likes a winner.
 
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If you able to think positively, Pakistan left no stone unturned for peace in Afghanistan and stability in region; but all efforts in vain due to US arrogance and false ego. Now you are witness to the humiliation brought to US by the hands of Talibans. Pakistan stance for negotiation for peace proven right. At the end US forced to withdrawn the status of 'terrorists' which was only awarded to Taliban on the wish and will of US; and US has no option left but to negotiate.
Listen to Mr. Hameed Gul (late) words, ISI defeated US by the hands of US in Afghanistan; if I am not wrong the words said by Mr Hameed Gul almost 10 years ago.

Well then, congratulations to the Taliban and Pakistan for humiliating USA by destroying its arrogance and ego. Of course, now the victors are responsible for what happens next in the region since they hold all the cards. Let them use them wisely for serving their own national interests, whatever they might be. I have no problem with that at all.
 
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Rajat Sharma first calls its "Nation", useless & then gives tribute to India's alley US (QUAD). It's just like slapping your face twice.

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A LOT of anti-US propaganda coming from India to seize the moment and "credentialize" itself as a growing super power in making. It's funny how our own dogs built by our billions, bark at us when they should stand with us! I'd have loved to see a strategic relationship with Pakistan and Bangladesh than India. IMO both sides played it terribly wrong. If there was a true strategic partner in this region for the US, it was always Pakistan.
 
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A Reckoning for Pakistan

The Taliban’s protector cheers the group’s Afghanistan takeover.

The Editorial Board
Aug. 16, 2021 6:38 pm ET

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American strategists will be studying for some time how Afghanistan’s U.S.-trained security forces crumbled so quickly before what appeared to be an inferior Taliban militia. One place they should look for answers is Pakistan, whose leader on Monday cheered the Taliban takeover of its northwestern neighbor.


Afghans “have broken the shackles of slavery,” said Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan, according to Indian media. The offhand celebration of the U.S. retreat from Afghanistan came as Mr. Khan denounced English education in Pakistan as promoting cultural control.

That a U.S. security partner would say this out loud certainly raises eyebrows. But the sentiment should not surprise. As Walter Russell Mead notes nearby, a key obstacle to American success in Afghanistan was “unrelenting support for the Taliban from our ‘ally’ in Islamabad.” The Taliban safe-haven across Afghanistan’s southern border was crucial to the group’s longevity and eventual military success.

Over the last two decades, the U.S. depended on bases in Pakistan for its war-on-terror operations in Central Asia. Yet Islamabad is playing its own great-power games in the region. Its intelligence services want control over Afghanistan and have seen the Taliban as the best vehicle. They want to frustrate the objectives of their greatest regional rival, India, which would prefer a secular government in Kabul.

The U.S. relationship with Islamist-influenced Pakistan has arguably become a devil’s bargain. Americans caught a glimpse of that a decade ago when they found out Osama Bin Laden was hiding in the country, apparently unmolested. Now Islamabad has played a key role in restoring to power the Taliban that the U.S. sacrificed for two decades to keep from power in Kabul.

But Mr. Khan may rue what he wished for. Jihadists want to control Pakistan and its nuclear weapons, which would instantly become a dangerous Islamist caliphate. Mr. Khan’s glib anti-Americanism may be an effort to appease Pakistan’s extremists, but he should watch that they don’t come for him first.



 
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Will Pakistan’s image change after it was proven right about Afghanistan?

Out of all the foreign stakeholders in the conflict, Pakistan was always the top one

Andrew Korybko
August 16, 2021

The collapse of the Ghani Government and its replacement by an interim administration partially comprised of Taliban representatives shows that Pakistan was right about Afghanistan all along. The only solution was a political one which incorporated a leading role for the Taliban as legitimate stakeholders in that conflict’s outcome. The Ghani Government, propped up by American airpower, wasn’t going to last long once the US pulled out its forces. The former leader was very unpopular in the rural areas and should have seriously considered resigning upon the commencement of the Taliban’s ultimately successful nationwide offensive earlier this summer once they demanded that he step down as a precondition for peace.

In the run-up to these recent dramatic developments, the Taliban completed its evolution from an internationally recognised terrorist group to a government-in-waiting. It cut ties with foreign terrorists as part of the February 2020 peace deal with the US, but even before that, it was already dispatching diplomatic delegates to capitals as far as Beijing and Moscow for peace talks after those Great Powers saw the writing on the wall and realised the wisdom of Islamabad’s consistently proposed solution to the conflict. Washington caught up too late to make much of a difference otherwise it would have pressured Ghani to resign before the US’ retreat turned into the unprecedented embarrassment that it presently is.

Now that Pakistan’s been proven right about Afghanistan, the question naturally becomes one of whether international perceptions about it will shift in a positive direction. No influential forces consider the Taliban to be a terrorist group any longer even if it’s still formally designated as such. The Ghani Government showed what a paper tiger it was all along after collapsing so rapidly in the face of the Taliban’s nationwide advance over the past two weeks, the latter of which was mostly peaceful and carried out through negotiations that usually resulted in large-scale surrenders. Few were willing to die for an unpopular puppet government that was responsible for unnecessarily prolonging the war when it became clear that it was already over long ago.

Out of all the foreign stakeholders in the conflict, Pakistan was always the top one and the party which played the greatest role in advancing its envisioned peaceful solution to the war. Far from being a so-called “isolated, rogue” state like some of its opponents falsely claimed for so long, Pakistan proved itself to be the exact opposite. It was the most important player in the Afghan peace process whose diplomatic services were sought out by the US and its Chinese & Russian rivals, remained committed to the UN Charter’s peaceful goals, and ultimately succeeded in implementing its consistent vision for ending the Afghan War through a political settlement that included a leading role for the Taliban.

Now’s Pakistan’s time to shine, and its supporters should remind the world just how wrong their opponents were about it. The country can make up for decades’ worth of lost time in reshaping international perceptions if it properly takes advantage of this chance. It must confidently articulate its geo-economic vision for the region and the role that post-war Afghanistan is expected to play through PAKAFUZ, which refers to February’s agreement to build a Pakistan-Afghanistan-Uzbekistan railway for connecting Central & South Asia. Additionally, Pakistan should also begin organizing an international conference for redirecting the focus of Afghanistan’s foreign stakeholders from the diplomatic realm to the economic one in order to rebuild the country.

Even if these efforts succeed, they’ll remain incomplete without the soft power infrastructure to sustain them. Despite being one of the world’s few nuclear powers, having one of its most powerful militaries, being one of the most populous countries on the planet, and having seemingly limitless economic potential through CPEC+, Pakistan lacks an international media outlet comparable to Al Jazeera, the BBC, CGTN, CNN, or RT. Its views on everything are filtered through foreign platforms and few ever take the extra step needed to seek out its own ones for clarification. With South Asia more important than ever after the end of the Afghan War and the beginning of trans-regional connectivity initiatives with Central Asia, now’s the time to address this shortcoming.

It’s therefore incumbent upon those with the relevant responsibilities to immediately begin brainstorming solutions to this problem, ideally with input from civil society figures involved in the soft power sphere, members of the think tank community, and foreign experts who are friendly towards Pakistan. This should be considered an urgent priority of national importance otherwise the country risks losing this window of opportunity and the culture of complacency returns whereby Pakistan once again reconciles itself with letting others filter its views on everything. Pakistan will never be taken seriously as a rising power unless it has its own international soft power infrastructure just like its peers do, and now’s the time to finally make progress on this.




WRITTEN BY:
Andrew Korybko
The writer is an American Moscow-based political analyst specialising in the relationship between the US strategy in Afro-Eurasia, China’s One Belt One Road global vision of New Silk Road connectivity, and Hybrid Warfare.
He tweets at @AKORYBKO
When you go all out for something , the way Pakistan went for it despite the odds..... Entire world was on the other side and yet we achieved it.... If only our nation can learn from it and start by putting Pakistan first!
 
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Making efforts to build 'regional consensus' on Afghanistan, Qureshi tells Chinese FM

Naveed Siddiqui
August 18, 2021


This combination photo shows Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi (left) and Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi. – AFP/Reuters



This combination photo shows Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi (left) and Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi. – AFP/Reuters


With Pakistan maintaining that the decision to recognise the Taliban regime in Afghanistan should be a regional one, Federal Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi informed his Chinese counterpart, Wang Yi, on Wednesday that he would be making visits to other countries to develop a "regional consensus on the evolving situation in Afghanistan".

A statement issued by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs said Qureshi shared the details of his upcoming visits with Yi during a telephone call, adding that both the foreign ministers agreed to remain in contact on shared interests, particularly the Afghanistan situation.

The exchange between the foreign ministers comes after China said it is ready to deepen “friendly and cooperative” relations with Afghanistan following the country's takeover by the Taliban.

A Chinese government spokesperson had said on Monday, “The Taliban have repeatedly expressed their hope to develop good relations with China, and that they look forward to China's participation in the reconstruction and development of Afghanistan.”

The spokesperson had also called on the Taliban to “ensure a smooth transition” of power and keep its promises to negotiate the establishment of an “open and inclusive Islamic government” and ensure the safety of Afghans and foreign citizens.
 
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Well then, congratulations to the Taliban and Pakistan for humiliating USA by destroying its arrogance and ego. Of course, now the victors are responsible for what happens next in the region since they hold all the cards. Let them use them wisely for serving their own national interests, whatever they might be. I have no problem with that at all.

It is USA who defeated herself in Afghanistan.
Owners always do better than occupiers ... !
 
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Are you indian? and I can tell you why I asked .... the mention of Indian e-visa in your post triggers this question...you know there is a certain under tone in language can detect sometimes who is who...
He did post a hate comment to not vote PTI very recently on another thread. Maybe he is 🤔 If he isn't then I apologise.
 
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