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Will India finally learn its lesson on China?

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Clashes between Indian and Chinese troops are shocking but nothing new. For almost twenty days, in the autumn of 1962, a handful of Indian soldiers surrounded by Chinese troops weathered incessant assaults, before being overrun in Walong, in the Namti plains; the Eastern most corner of India. No support came in 1962, from the shocked Indian government to the unprepared Indian army. A dusty stone-plaque stands there today pledging that Walong will never fall again; a pledge whose strength might soon be tested once more.

For a decade before those events, Jawaharlal Nehru, India’s first socialist post-independence prime-minister, wanted to create a utopian post-colonial alliance in Asia with China. Just like modern post-colonial academics, his ideas were also completely devoid of the geopolitical realities of power, something he finally internalised after a walloping at the hands of Maoist China.

Nevertheless, this romantic idea of Pan-Asian solidarity persisted, as Nehru’s sister gave unconditional support to Chinese membership in the Security Council, even after the utter humiliation of the 1962 war, while charting a non-aligned path outside the US-Soviet rivalry. China did not return the favour.

The same utopian ideal of a Gaullist equidistance continues to haunt India, whose forces got walloped once again in a brutal medieval brawl this week which saw at least 20 Indian soldiers killed, and an unknown number of Chinese casualties. The scale of the conflict, the largest death toll in over half a century is unthinkable, especially considering that no firepower was used. But that’s not the surprising part.

For a country of 1.2 billion, the 6th largest economy, a nuclear power with one of the largest modern navies in the world, it shouldn’t be difficult for India to balance a rising China. India has open-ended offers from the Quad, a semi-formal alliance between the four largest democracies in the Asia-Pacific, to formalise the alliance. Even India’s threat of joining the Quad, of having American, Australian and Japanese troops and navies conduct joint operations in the Himalayas and Indo-Pacific, of selling Brahmos missiles to Vietnam, and jointly patrolling the South China Sea, should send a chill down the spines of the military leaders in Beijing.

And yet India has historically been the weakest link in the Quad, partly by her own design. In 2017, Admiral Sunil Lanba shot down the idea of formalising a naval alliance. 'India is the only country in the Quad with a land border with China. In case of conflict…nobody will come and hold your hand', Lanba argued. While that might be true, joining a formal alliance would have helped in forcing China to divert strategic resources and be on the back foot. It would have led to a useful exchange of real-time military intelligence and diplomatic backing in the UN. Instead, India acquiesced.


New Delhi’s antiquated strategy then is responsible for the rise of Chinese aggression, and India’s political and military class are the architects of her own humiliation. China, on the other hand, once again showed no such reticence and continued with alignments with perpetual problem-child Pakistan and the new Marxist government of Nepal in a bid to circle India.

With the latest violence, the reality of the region has shifted permanently, but it is still to be seen whether that reality is reflected in New Delhi's strategic circles.


India, as a great power, is not dependent on others for her own defence, but India is not great enough to balance China alone. Nor is going solo prudent in geopolitics. The long-dominant view in New Delhi is that China is a continental power which needs to be appeased while the Himalayas are fortified with massive long-duration infrastructure projects which will help India move troops in the event of a war. The strategy is based on the idea that there might be a massive land invasion from China. It also misreads the Chinese strategy.

China is not interested in a war, but rather slicing up parts of advantageous and defensible terrains from the South China Sea to the Himalayas. To offset that, India needs to help others carve up parts surrounding China where Beijing is weak. A naval patrolling in the South China sea, as well as profiting from arms export to Vietnam should be a good start in reestablishing deterrence.

Every romantic theory of solidarity is good until men are bludgeoned and thrown in ditches and warships rammed. Romanticism inevitably gives way to realism. This is a chance for New Delhi to unlearn romantic postcolonial theories and relearn realpolitik to facilitate an alliance to balance China. For the birthplace of Kautilya, it is criminal negligence to forget the grandest of wisdom from Kautilyan realpolitik, 'the king (or state) who is likewise situated close to the enemy, but separated from the conqueror only by the enemy, is termed the friend'. It's time for India to finally learn its lesson.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/will-india-finally-learn-its-lesson-on-china-
 
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What lesson? Indians acrossed the line of actual control to the Chinese side yet it is China that's being agreesive. How Indians always see themselves as the victim when they are losing and how they see themselves mighty when winning says a lot about their mentality as a whole.
 
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A naval patrolling in the South China sea, as well as profiting from arms export to Vietnam should be a good start in reestablishing deterrence

The author who criticizes India for not knowing the reality is living in his own fantasy. LOL! Patrolling the SCS like a true super power? Can they afford the fuel cost? Since when has India, the biggest arms buyer of the world, become the renowned arm seller? The Vietnamese are not known to be suckers. If they need a bomb or two why would they not buy them from the original maker directly?
 
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For a country of 1.2 billion, the 6th largest economy, a nuclear power with one of the largest modern navies in the world, it shouldn’t be difficult for India to balance a rising China. India has open-ended offers from the Quad, a semi-formal alliance between the four largest democracies in the Asia-Pacific, to formalise the alliance. Even India’s threat of joining the Quad, of having American, Australian and Japanese troops and navies conduct joint operations in the Himalayas and Indo-Pacific, of selling Brahmos missiles to Vietnam, and jointly patrolling the South China Sea, should send a chill down the spines of the military leaders in Beijing.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/will-india-finally-learn-its-lesson-on-china-

How can it be easy when they are facing world second largest economy and second largest navy in the world? Looks like India didnt know its place.
 
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The author who criticizes India for not knowing the reality is living in his own fantasy. LOL! Patrolling the SCS like a true super power? Can they afford the fuel cost? Since when has India, the biggest arms buyer of the world, become the renowned arm seller? The Vietnamese are not known to be suckers. If they need a bomb or two why would they not buy them from the original maker directly?
patrolling scs? author probably drunk lol.
 
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The only lesson Indians should learn is how to develop their nation as developed, wealthy and powerful as China, but as a very divided nation, this goal could be very unlikely to achieve.
 
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History and there DNA shows they will not change.
 
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History and there DNA shows they will not change.

You are correct......Indians desperately want to believe that all communists / socialists are good.....China, being a communist nation, is good.......difficult to change that thinking.
 
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You are correct......Indians desperately want to believe that all communists / socialists are good.....China, being a communist nation, is good.......difficult to change that thinking.
Funny we think communism is sh!t. No one in China believes communism anymore. You are just parroting your spiritual leaders' narrative, insisting that we are communists to give yourself a moral ground. Yes it has to be difficult to comprehend a free shiny democracy like yours can be so far behind a savage communist country:azn:
 
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Vietnam has been never really interested in Brahmos. We want to make the missile by our own, hence we will contact directly with the original maker, not to India it has been always the wishful thinking of India and the West to have Vietnam as its client. It will be like a jewel to their defense industry. hence Brahmos to Vietnam has been talked about so many times by Indian members in this forum alone.
 
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The poor fellows of the PDF did not even read the article before commenting above :lol: The lesson that the writer speaks about is not about china teaching India.

The writer desperately wants India to join the Quad and hopes India will learn the lesson not to confront china alone.

I am in support of India joining the Quad.

If I a chinese I will be ashamed by this "and an unknown number of Chinese casualties" lol lol lol an unknown number. Looks like chinese are still counting the inner bleeding. I have to admit we Indians are extremely good in delivering the inner bleeding, our neighbours know this and they grudgingly accept it silently.
 
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Funny we think communism is sh!t. No one in China believes communism anymore. You are just parroting your spiritual leaders' narrative, insisting that we are communists to give yourself a moral ground. Yes it has to be difficult to comprehend a free shiny democracy like yours can be so far behind a savage communist country:azn:

India is backward because of democracy.....there is no one person with a shiny idea to change everything (like Deng Xiaopeng - btw, I read his biography written by someone and I am impressed with his achievements)......if someone (in India) has a shiny idea, he will spend his lifetime arguing that his ideas are good.....when China; malaysia; south korea etc are going in one direction in 1970s, India was going in opposite direction.....and the leader at that time (Indira Gandhi) is held in high esteem even now....

What I said is true.....even now, go to ndtv.com and read an article by Ashutosh [he used to be a prominent member of the party that rules India's capital Delhi]......Ashutosh says that China did 1962 to bring India to negotiating table. China again wants India at negotiating table, hence latest actions.......there are many more chinese apologists in India.....

PS: Being an Indian - I might appear ridiculing India, but that is not my intention......
 
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