'Will fast one extra day as compensation': KP minister counters criticism for declaring Eid on Tues

[Lahorie]

"We will fast for one extra day as compensation for the fast [missed]."

Kaffara is 60 days fasting, as per religious instruction for leaving one or more fasts

 

[NaqsheYaar]

Don't act like fools people!

Where my hometown is (Bannu), like it or not, everybody saw that they had missed a Roza this Ramadan, because we saw the moon standing high, while it was to be first Roza in rest of the country. The fact is that moon actually gets sighted in these parts. What do you do then, if the moon is sighted? Do you still fast?

It's a different geological belt and rest of the country needs to be educated about it.

Just invade popalzai.

Don't act like a fool buddy, come here, spend a year or two in these areas, and see if people are really making things up about the moon sightings..

 

[shah_123]

Don't act like fools people!

Where my hometown is (Bannu), like it or not, everybody saw that they had missed a Roza this Ramadan, because we saw the moon standing high, while it was to be first Roza in rest of the country. The fact is that moon actually gets sighted in these parts. What do you do then, if the moon is sighted? Do you still fast?

It's a different geological belt and rest of the country needs to be educated about it.


Don't act like a fool buddy, come here, spend a year or two in these areas, and see if people are really making things up about the moon sightings..

Okay than next time if you are able to sight moon yourself, fast/do eid on your own, don't even wait for popalzai to announce.

Instead of calling others fools, you need some education on how things works in an Islamic State (even if it's just Islamic by name like ours).--- There's a central body constituted by the govt, they are responsible for moon sighting every month.--- In case of dispute, rulers say is final.

How come this popalzai guy is only sighted three times a year, why he is absent other nine months for moon sighting??

I can assure you that if we were a true Islamic State, people like popalzai would have been in their graves long time ago.

 

[NaqsheYaar]

Okay than next time if you are able to sight moon yourself, fast/do eid on your own, don't even wait for popalzai to announce.

Instead of calling others fools, you need some education on how things works in an Islamic State (even if it's just Islamic by name like ours).--- There's a central body constituted by the govt, they are responsible for moon sighting every month.--- In case of dispute, rulers say is final.

How come this popalzai guy is only sighted three times a year, why he is absent other nine months for moon sighting??

I can assure you that if we were a true Islamic State, people like popalzai would have been in their graves long time ago.

Valid points, just need to point out that popalzai is there only to collect and record the evidences or lies of other people.. this has been so for hundreds of years here..

The problem is if every central government never takes moon sightings keenly here, people would form their own committees and never celebrate Eid with the government.

What to do with a government to that is both deaf and blind..

 

[AZ1]

Valid points, just need to point out that popalzai is there only to collect and record the evidences or lies of other people.. this has been so for hundreds of years here..

The problem is if every central government never takes moon sightings keenly here, people would form their own committees and never celebrate Eid with the government.

What to do with a government to that is both deaf and blind..

By whose authority he was collecting the shadat? Its a ego that lives in ur part of area and nothing else.

How you will deny the fact that scientifically there was not even a change to sight the moon?

 

[criticalerror]

This is a complete **** up by the Government. How could IK declare this to be a provincial issue? It is the state(Federal Government) that should be dealing with Ramzan/Eid decisions. Made a fool of themselves.

 

[544_delta]

IK the visionary along with dream team of experts !

 

[litman]

pti is in habit of shooting itself in the foot. they create problems for themselves and get embarrassed . the metro project peshawar shows their height of incompetence. single major project in 5 years which proved to be ultimate failure. i dont know to whom i will vote in next election.

 

[zarabesunni]

 

[ejaz007]

Kaffara is 60 days fasting, as per religious instruction for leaving one or more fasts

This kafara is for missing a fast. What if some one deliberately misleads people and makes them skip one fast.

Provincial government new that they would be declaring/supporting declaration of eid after 28 days of fasting.

Their can never be 28 days of fasting. Its either 29 or 30 days of fasting.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

What a joke, the corrupt the religion too

 

[Psychic]

Where my hometown is (Bannu), like it or not, everybody saw that they had missed a Roza this Ramadan, because we saw the moon standing high, while it was to be first Roza in rest of the country. The fact is that moon actually gets sighted in these parts.

Muneeb may have made mistake a few times, mostly it is Popalzai and his cronies who stupidly believe that moon in his parts is always in sync with Saudia which is scientifically impossible.
Even when scientific lunar calendar will say otherwise, Popalzai and his followers will still claim to see the moon. They are beyond cure.

There is only one thing positive which Fawad Ch has done and that is uploading the hijri calendar on mobile app so that scumbags like Popalzai stop fooling people.

That man(Popalzai) only divides people on eid and stays absent for the rest of the whole year. And do they also celebrate Eidul-Azha with Saudia or is the keera only for Ramazan and choti Eid?
Maybe they celebrate choda Agust with Saudia as well.....

 

[313ghazi]

It is entirely possible that in areas which are higher up, have less atmospheric light pollution, that it is possible to sight the moon compared to urban areas or areas which are closer to sea level.

The problem with a lot of these moonsightings is that they contradict the best available scientific projections.

Now it could be that the scientific projections are inaccurate (I read somewhere they can be off about 20% of the time, but not sure of the validity of the source). Alternatively the sightings could be lies. It seems unlikely and extremely far fetched there is an international conspiracy to ruin Eid, but its not entirely in-plausible.

What is the solution? A controlled scientific experiment with evidence taken of sightings.

For the next 2 years, the government should ask for moonsightings with photographic evidence every month. Compare this with the calendar projections - check authenticity of pictures, if there are regular trends where there are differences, send members of the ruet-e-hilal committee to aslo verify these sightings.

The answer is very simple.

 

[Psychic]

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This article claims that moon was visible on June 4 as per calendar which is a false claim;
" The five-year calendar has already set the dates for Eidul Fitr. According to it, this year’s Eid will be on June 5."
https://www.samaa.tv/news/2019/05/eid-on-june-5-according-to-pakistans-first-islamic-calendar/
And that news is from May 26.

Sehr and Iftar calendars are halal but hijri calendar is haram. RIP logic.

 

[NaqsheYaar]

OK boyses, check this out..
Believe it or not, this is Chand on second day of Eid here, i.e first day of Eid in the rest of the country..

Folks, people in KP are actually able to sight the moon more accurately..

I have always seen similar results throughout my life..