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NSG row: Will a right-wing boycott of Chinese goods send a 'tough message' to Beijing?
The Narendra Modi-Xi Jinping bromance is over.
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The Narendra Modi-Xi Jinping bromance is now a thing of the past. It has been less than two years since the Chinese President strolled down the Sabarmati waterfront and then wrote an op-ed in The Hindu calling India a global partner in the drive towards an "Asian century". The events of the last few days have decisively put India into the anti-China camp, with commentators now calling for tough messages and some right-wingers even calling for a boycott of Chinese goods. Hindi-Chini bye bye.

A short recap: India had applied to be a member of the Nuclear Suppliers Group, a 48-member cartel that effectively regulates the global trade in nuclear fuel and technology. New Delhi had put much political effort behind its application, with Modi himself flying to several capitals to gather support. When it came down to it though, China first attempted to block any discussion of India's bid and later continued to insist India cannot be let into the club because it is not a member of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

After the NSG meeting in Seoul ended with a commitment to continue discussing India's membership application, China tried to play both tacks: One spokesperson insisted that India's application didn't even come up at the meeting – technically the discussion was on all non-NPT applicants – while another tried to insist that Beijing's NSG obstructionism would not affect bilateral ties with India.

Chinese chequers

New Delhi disagrees.

The Ministry of External Affairs statement in the aftermath of the meeting singled out "one country", without naming it, for raising procedural hurtles.

Then on Sunday, the ministry's spokesperson of the External Affairs Ministry on Sunday said India's bilateral ties were inextricably linked to its "interests".

"We will keep impressing upon China that mutual accommodation of interests, concerns and priorities is necessary to move forward bilateral ties."

— Vikas Swarup, MEA spokesperson
At home, the conversation has gone even further.

Ashok Malik, a senior fellow at the Observer Research Foundation and a political analyst known to be close to the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party,wrote a column saying China had behaved "not as an enlightened power but as a strategic small-timer, with the petty, perfidious and short-termist mindset of a Pyongyang dictator or a Rawalpindi general".

Boycott Beijing

Malik said that India is now "honour-bound" to send a tough message to China. On the internet, through Twitter and WhatsApp forwards, the right-wing constituency that supports the BJP decided that a slightly farcical call to boycott Chinese goods is the way to send this message









This is not exactly going to be easy. China is India's largest trade partner although the reverse is not even remotely close to being true: India doesn't even figure in the top 10 of China's trade partners by total volume. China also has a massive trade surplus of more than $44 billion, out of total trade of $59 billion, during the April-January period of 2015-16.

The skewed nature of those figures might suggest that India may not have much to lose in a trade war, but it also shows how dependent the country is on Chinese goods. A large-scale boycott would have serious implications for many industries.

Not everyone thinks India will actually accomplish much by trying to isolate China diplomatically. Former diplomat MK Bhadrakumar wrote that the attempt to force Beijing into coming in board was an overestimation of India's diplomatic skills that displayed India's hubris.

Asian rivals

Manoj Joshi, a Distinguished Fellow at ORF, also points out that Beijing is not entitled to give India a seat at the table.

"Of all the Asian countries that have the potential to rival China in terms of geographical spread, military power and economy, India does," Joshi wrote. "China has no intention of aiding a rival’s rise, even if that rival is way behind it."

Mexico ensured that the NSG is on course to have another session, sometime later this year, specifically to discuss India's membership application. New Delhi has made it clear it intends to continue diplomatically pushing for its bid, even if that means an extended period of frosty relations with China – a phase that actually began before the recent NSG machinations.

In the short-term, this has not been a successful policy, with the NSG disappointment likely to hit hard and hurt Modi domestically. The question to ask now is: Can New Delhi convert short-term disappointment into long-term victory?

http://scroll.in/article/810686/nsg...chinese-goods-send-a-tough-message-to-beijing
 
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A successful boycott would just hurt trade relations, and potentially trigger a trade war, if it gets bad enough. China can afford to lose money on exports, in order to gain market share, I'm not so sure India can do or say the same. Not to mention the very valid issues that the article points out.

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As if China would care what some dogs in a 3rd world country do.
You come from a third world country, have a bit of decency to at least pretend that you're trying to be polite.
 
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it wont send a tough message but a stupid one at that. the chinese a have alot of money and if such a hypothetical thing happened then they can take the little pinch. and dont be suprissed to find indian exports to china go down as a consequence
 
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A successful boycott would just hurt trade relations, and potentially trigger a trade war, if it gets bad enough. China can afford to lose money on exports, in order to gain market share, I'm not so sure India can do or say the same. Not to mention the very valid issues that the article points out.

Even without this NSG issue, or previously China's attempts to protect some known terrorists hurting India, we should have blocked all non-essential Chinese goods long back. We don't need Chinese toys of questionable safety standards, Chinese firecrackers, stationary goods, clothing and fashion accessories, small electrical appliances, furniture, and other consumer durable imports at the cost of our cottage industries and small & medium scale manufacturers, traders import these stuff to make some quick bucks by selling cheap Chinese goods that are being dumped here. We can make a list of imports that we need and imports that are unnecessary and hurting our economy, and act accordingly. We should also subtly discriminate between imports and local manufacturing and encourage companies, both foreign and Indian, to open manufacturing units in India instead of making it in China and selling it here. Btw, some people talk about electronic goods, but most of the critical components in a mobile phone or computer are not Chinese, but American, Japanese, S.Korean, Taiwanese, etc. So yeah.....
 
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A successful boycott would just hurt trade relations, and potentially trigger a trade war, if it gets bad enough. China can afford to lose money on exports, in order to gain market share, I'm not so sure India can do or say the same. Not to mention the very valid issues that the article points out.

I look at it as an emotional outburst...... Foreign policy doesn't work that way and Indian govt knows it pretty well...... Life will move on......
 
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We should also make our BSI certification stricter and ensure that nothing go through custom to our market without meeting those quality standards. That trade deficit with China must go..
 
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what does right wing boycott means in this regard ?

Chinese did it against India not just the right wingers. or this nation only belongs to the right wingers ?

We should also make our BSI certification stricter and ensure that nothing go through custom to our market without meeting those quality standards. That trade deficit with China must go..
 
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I look at it as an emotional outburst...... Foreign policy doesn't work that way and Indian govt knows it pretty well...... Life will move on......

Sometimes emotions are just fine, let's not make China richer with our money, the money they use to increase their military might, or to supply weapons to the countries inimical to us. So, here is an emotional Indian's appeal to a fellow Indian to avoid Chinese goods as much as possible and look for other alternatives, there are many. You will get better quality products in the process! :)

what does right wing boycott means in this regard ?

Chinese did it against India not just the right wingers. or this nation only belongs to the right wingers ?

Looks like some people have handed over the nation to the right wingers only, didn't you see the 'celebration' in some camps when the NSG bid failed? :)
 
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:cuckoo: When he orders chinese food, it is delivered from China?


Wonder if these idiots realize that freedom struggle was also based upon boycott of British made stuff, when it was forbidden to even make your own salt.

Also dafuq is "right wing" opposing chinese goods in favour of locally produced stuff is "right wing",, what a bunch of retards.
 
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Much of the Indian IT industry will collapse as a result as they will not be able to find processors, memory chips, servers, monitors and even basic input like keyboard and mouse..
 
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Even without this NSG issue, or previously China's attempts to protect some known terrorists hurting India, we should have blocked all non-essential Chinese goods long back. We don't need Chinese toys of questionable safety standards, Chinese firecrackers, stationary goods, clothing and fashion accessories, small electrical appliances, furniture, and other consumer durable imports at the cost of our cottage industries and small & medium scale manufacturers, traders import these stuff to make some quick bucks by selling cheap Chinese goods that are being dumped here. We can make a list of imports that we need and imports that are unnecessary and hurting our economy, and act accordingly. We should also subtly discriminate between imports and local manufacturing and encourage companies, both foreign and Indian, to open manufacturing units in India instead of making it in China and selling it here. Btw, some people talk about electronic goods, but most of the critical components in a mobile phone or computer are not Chinese, but American, Japanese, S.Korean, Taiwanese, etc. So yeah.....
I'll address your last point first, when people talk about critical chinese components, they actually mean "rare earth minerals" which are used in almost every electronic device you use. Guess who has an almost complete monopoly on them? China.

Next, the rest of your points only see things from a one sided perspective. You only see things that would benefit India, but fail to, or more likely ignored the negative impact. Do you honestly think China wouldn't retaliate? If India started blocking Chinese goods, China would do the same. China can afford to lose some business, India cannot.
 
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I'll address your last point first, when people talk about critical chinese components, they actually mean "rare earth minerals" which are used in almost every electronic device you use. Guess who has an almost complete monopoly on them? China.

Next, the rest of your points only see things from a one sided perspective. You only see things that would benefit India, but fail to, or more likely ignored the negative impact. Do you honestly think China wouldn't retaliate? If India started blocking Chinese goods, China would do the same. China can afford to lose some business, India cannot.
Much of the Indian IT industry will collapse as a result as they will not be able to find processors, memory chips, servers, monitors and even basic input like keyboard and mouse..
Indians are frustrated. Would get normal in a few days. Happens every time.

Emotional fool Gaurav Sawant was humiliated by fellow Indian journalist Zakka Jacob.


Read my posts again (quoted below), I didn't ask for a complete ban, I said "Cut down on non-essential goods", which we can do and should have done already for our own good. China don't import much from us anyway barring some raw materials, much of which we shouldn't export either. China has blocked us in all the businesses where we are strong, like IT, pharma, textiles, automobile, banking and some other industries. Besides, I have mentioned about stricter implementation of our quality standards (BIS certification) for Chinese imports, which we should do anyway. Even after that there will be significant trade with China. I have also talked about differentiating between imports and manufacturing in our country that the government is already doing, so China can invest here in manufacturing as per our policies (that they are doing now), this way they can get a fair deal and we reduce imports. Or China can go for a trade war and lose one of the largest markets in the world, most of the Chinese market is not open for us anyway, and there is nothing in the world that China produces exclusively.

About computers, cellphones etc., as I said earlier, OS, processors, RAM, ROM, storage, motherboards, all are mostly American, Japanese, S.Korean, Taiwanese products, you want me to name the companies? We are encouraging their local production and assembling, most of the major consumer durable companies, domestic and foreign, are doing local manufacturing in India for both local demand and exports, 2/3rd of our smartphones are already locally manufactured by more than 25 companies, and were you really serious about keyboard, mouse, etc.? Btw, that iPhone mentioned in the tweet, it's an American product, made by a Taiwanese company which is also opening manufacturing bases in India, it's another issue that iPhone is a stupid product with flaunt value.

Even without this NSG issue, or previously China's attempts to protect some known terrorists hurting India, we should have blocked all non-essential Chinese goods long back. We don't need Chinese toys of questionable safety standards, Chinese firecrackers, stationary goods, clothing and fashion accessories, small electrical appliances, furniture, and other consumer durable imports at the cost of our cottage industries and small & medium scale manufacturers, traders import these stuff to make some quick bucks by selling cheap Chinese goods that are being dumped here. We can make a list of imports that we need and imports that are unnecessary and hurting our economy, and act accordingly. We should also subtly discriminate between imports and local manufacturing and encourage companies, both foreign and Indian, to open manufacturing units in India instead of making it in China and selling it here. Btw, some people talk about electronic goods, but most of the critical components in a mobile phone or computer are not Chinese, but American, Japanese, S.Korean, Taiwanese, etc. So yeah.....
We should also make our BSI certification stricter and ensure that nothing go through custom to our market without meeting those quality standards. That trade deficit with China must go..
 
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Raw materials for pharma is a major concern but rest of the materials can be sourced else where but with higher cost.
China is not the only country which produces electronics , it does cheaply thats it. Given that make in india push is getting stronger. India can certainly partner with taiwan or south korea to bring manufacturing to India.

Chinese companies like huawei are getting contracts from state companies like bsnl, investing in infra projects. Any misstep on their part would be costly. Already they are suffering from massive overcapacity like in steel and trying to dump it elsewhere.

bout computers, cellphones etc., as I said earlier, OS, processors, RAM, ROM, storage, motherboards, all are mostly American, Japanese, S.Korean, Taiwanese products, you want me to name the companies? We are encouraging their local production and assembling, most of the major consumer durable companies, domestic and foreign, are doing local manufacturing in India for both local demand and exports, 2/3rd of our smartphones are locally manufactured by more than 25 companies, and were you really serious about keyboard, mouse, etc.? Btw, that iPhone mentioned in the tweet, it's an American product, made by a Taiwanese company which is also opening manufacturing bases in India, it's another issue that iPhone is a stupid product with flaunt value.
For some fanboys china is every thing. should ask the question why in the world do they hoard dollar & buy Federal bonds. What ppl dont understand that Industry in korea & taiwan is far more advanced but labor is costly. Its these companies which invested in china to gain cost arbitrage.
 
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Raw materials for pharma is a major concern but rest of the materials can be sourced else where but with higher cost.
China is not the only country which produces electronics , it does cheaply thats it. Given that make in india push is getting stronger. India can certainly partner with taiwan or south korea to bring manufacturing to India.

Chinese companies like huawei are getting contracts from state companies like bsnl, investing in infra projects. Any misstep on their part would be costly. Already they are suffering from massive overcapacity like in steel and trying to dump it elsewhere.

For some fanboys china is every thing. should ask the question why in the world do they hoard dollar & buy Federal bonds. What ppl dont understand that Industry in korea & taiwan is far more advanced but labor is costly. Its these companies which invested in china to gain cost arbitrage.

India need to cut down the trade deficit with China for sure, and it will be done with more push on local manufacturing, it's not that tomorrow we will stop all businesses with China. We are already getting investments in manufacturing from the major players in Indian market, which will only increase with rising cost of manufacturing in China. Some people don't understand that Chinese economy and manufacturing is not in the pink of its health, it also needs access to our large market which is getting larger fast.
 
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