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Wikileaks:Vatican not happy with BJP victory as it is a potential hindrance in dalit conversion.


The Hindu : The India Cables / The Cables : 186500: Vatican official on India-Pakistan conflict and Indian approach to religious freedom

Even the Congress Party - which is traditionally more helpful on religious freedom issues, in the Church's view - supported them in Himachal Pradesh state in order to gain electoral advantage.

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 1/9/2029 TAGS: PGOV, PREL, KIRF, IN, PK, VT

SUBJECT: VATICAN OFFICIAL ON INDIA-PAKISTAN CONFLICT AND INDIAN APPROACH TO RELIGIOUS FREEDOM

REF: VATICAN 3

CLASSIFIED BY: Rafael Foley, Pol Chief. REASON: 1.4 (b), (d)

1. (C) At a January 7 meeting with the DCM, the Holy See's Secretariat of State point person for South Asia, Monsignor Joseph Murphy, discussed the Church's view on tensions between India and Pakistan. The Vatican is concerned about the potential for further violence, he said, and the Pope underlined this concern in his annual address to the diplomatic corps on January 8 (reftel). Both countries have non-resident Ambassadors accredited to the Holy See. The Pakistani Ambassador, based in Paris, maintains regular contact with the Holy See. The Indian Ambassador, based in Geneva, does not. (Murphy speculated that Indian diplomats avoid such meetings to dodge discussions of religious freedom with the Holy See, arguing that New Delhi has very limited influence on developments in India's state-level administrations.) Murphy said that the Holy See would be willing to use its influence to reduce tensions, but said the Vatican has little direct pull with either party. The Vatican would, however, be pleased to deliver helpful messages to governments that can in turn influence Islamabad and New Delhi.

2. (C) Elaborating on religious freedom issues in India, Murphy said a victory for Hindu Nationalist party BJP in India's general elections next May probably would not be good for the Catholic Church. The BJP has favored anti-conversion laws on the books in five Indian states. These are of concern to the Vatican, even if they are not being applied, because they create a hostile environment to religious freedom and discourage the conversion of Dalits in particular. Even the Congress Party - which is traditionally more helpful on religious freedom issues, in the Church's view - supported them in Himachal Pradesh state in order to gain electoral advantage.

3. (C) On a positive note, Murphy said the Christmas holidays were peaceful for the estimated 17 million Christians in India, including in Orissa --where there was finally a more robust security presence.
 
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Let's be honest - India is and always will be a secular nation. There have been some issues in the past due to mostly factional politics and ignorance but as the years progress and India continues on its prosperous path with many more being educated this backward and ignorant BS will stop. And I hope/am sure on day F£&KERS like Modi and all other S£&t stirrers will be no more.
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Dont worry Vatican Madam sonia is back ...she has already given free hands to Churches all over India...
 
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While one respects all religions in India and they have total freedom, including receiving religous instructions from their religious leaders from foreign countries, yet the Vatican's unhappiness does not in anyway perturbs, except the usual uncomfortable feeling that foreign seats of power are 'influencing' the democratic process resulting in the elections not really being Vox Populi, Vox Dei!!

But, it is no secret that the Vatican and foreign countries inject massive funds to influence the Indian elections.
 
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today i was watching so called GOD tv and some Lady who claims to be prophet was asking for gifts(money) from people for GOD tv...she said god wants GOD tv to be a kingdom so that his voice can reach millions....no gift is little...bla bla..what a shame..
 
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Its fact that some Missionaries are involved into preaching hatred and other illegal activities into India.
 
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Who cares....i want BJP to win in next elections.....we want to get rid of these corrupt congress
 
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seriously!! vatican do not want BJP because it dose not allow conversions of poor to Christians...

really what a dev!l is vetican!!! :angry: :angry:

I think this is the only issue where Muslims too do not support congress
 
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This Wikileak cable has exposed Vatican and their missionary chamcha in India . And also that a special group of Indians , Dalits are the main target.

Its not just religious activities anymore , its mission conversion. They don't even care about the negative ramification of such targeted endeavor for India and its citizens as a whole.
 
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Vatican is not happy that BJP won ?

Well who gives a damn.

The pope needs to concentrate on praying and stop worrying about politics in India....
 
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This Wikileak cable has exposed Vatican and their missionary chamcha in India . And also that a special group of Indians , Dalits are the main target.

Its not just religious activities anymore , its mission conversion. They don't even care about the negative ramification of such targeted endeavor for India and its citizens as a whole.
What do u think that Christian missionaries do .

And dalits are the soft targets . Dalits are treatd like untouchables in villages especially in the north .
These Dalits prefer to convert to Islam mainly or christianity coz of the discrimination .

I bet Muslim population will increase to 15% in this census
 
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