Wikileaks Diplomatic Cables

[Solomon2]

This is nothing but BS.What makes you think that such things are dilebretly kept non secure.??

I hope you are correct, but I fear you are not.

If US is so concerned abt this then why it deliberately let Blaspheme ZIA Regime to get away with it.

The U.S. is not omnipotent, and Pakistan isn't America's puppet. Once the Soviets invaded Afghanistan - a move even Soviet Ambassador to the U.S. Dobrynin considered foolish - the perceived need to unify to smash Communism put Pakistan back in the driver's seat.

 

[VelocuR]

According to sparklingway

Well I personally think that highly enriched Urainum is not our secret and we have earlier granted access to these places in early 2002-3 for control purposes. Safeguarding thing wouldn't be a shocker then.

 

[BATMAN]

both are influential Muslim states and it is pitiful that they are still at loggerheads

alas!

Abou... this ignorant bunch know nothing but it is alright to comment the way you did but remember our religious affairs minister Shia by faith has already triggered diplomatic row with Saudi govt.
This was in pipeline.
I'm much more suspicious about Tehran's role... who always have insulted about Pakistan in his state controlled media.
Before forming any opinion, ask our diplomats in tehran what poison Tehran has been reporting to their public since revolution.

 

[Ras]

It never cease to amaze how is it allowed to insult Saudi King.

I wonder what will happen if i remark another nation's head as snake...

poor moderation

BTW... naive members please.. note this is not first time it happened always such remarks are passed by Indians hiding behind foreign flags.

The Saudi King called the nation of Iran a snake whose head has to be cut off..what is your opinion on that?

 

[Ras]

no offense. but that is a very silly question to be asking here

I know..it is just amusing to see the loyalty certain Pakistani members have to the House of Al-Saud. I guess the billions of petro dollars sent into Pakistan the last 3 decades have borne fruit.

 

[Solomon2]

Oh you just Forgot how Israel helped the South Africans...

How can this be relevant? S.A. de-nuclearized unilaterally, undertook no proliferation of its own, and no one thinks Israel has been a nuclear proliferator since then.

...If that what you have feared happens then its the Very own Fault of US Gov who let Islamabad Persue the Nukes. Again You reap what you saw...I am afraid its too late now...:whoot:

Pakistanis are responsible for its own decisions. Your attitude can be summed up as, "The U.S. didn't stop me, so I can be as evil as I want and it's all America's fault" - doesn't do you any credit. Why do you look at this with humor, rather than be ashamed of yourself?

 

[sparklingway]

His excellency King of Saudi Arabia and watch your mouth same can be thrown back at your face as well.

Typical you, more Arab than Arabs themselves. His Excellency has been shown to be an opportunist coward asking for direct attacks on Iran and masquerading as a peaceful monarch in a region whilst silently supporting Israel's stance towards neighbouring countries. Exposé like this show us the real face of the "Kingdom of Saudi Arabia" and the ruling junta.

Abou... this ignorant bunch know nothing but it is alright to comment the way you did but remember our religious affairs minister Shia by faith has already triggered diplomatic row with Saudi govt.

I didn't know Barevlis were Shias but maybe Wahabism teaches that. Anyways, it's not a "diplomatic row" and while Kazmi is in the dock for corruption, Saudis have had to pay up for not providing the requisite facilities for Hajis.

 

[Vassnti]

The whistle-blower website WikiLeaks has said its website is under a cyber attack.

couldnt possibly be because every man and his dog was trying to log on to the site at the one time to see what the cables said?

WL is fast becoming a joke, the latest earth shatering leaks.

Saudi Arabia doesnt like Iran.

OMG what earth shattering cutting edge news.

 

[Coltsfan]

His excellency King of Saudi Arabia and watch your mouth same can be thrown back at your face as well.

English please

 

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

I hope you are correct, but I fear you are not.

The U.S. is not omnipotent, and Pakistan isn't America's puppet. Once the Soviets invaded Afghanistan - a move even Soviet Ambassador to the U.S. Dobrynin considered foolish - the perceived need to unify to smash Communism put Pakistan back in the driver's seat.

Ohh what about the War against the Evil Commies ... The Great Bear Trap .. The Desire of Vengence for what they did to US in Veitnam .. All of that was Baloony ...!

Some times i wonder if it haven't been for the US support for the corrupt Zia Regime Pakistan wouldn't have acquired Nukes and those Blasphemic laws too would have been repealed.. But no ... The US commit this hypocrisy and deprived Pakistani People from Democracy and the right to choose the Government of there will by supporting various Military coupes to meet its own Hegemonic interests .

 

[somebozo]

I wonder US forgets about all the European black market traders when talking about N pro-filtration and only goat being slaughtered here again and again is Pakistan and its N father AQ Khan. It was offcourse a business with pleasure, the europeans were willing to sell and Mr AQ was willing to buy..at any case the first culprits of proliferation were the Europeans black market traders...and i reckon they had israeli connection somewhere.

 

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

"The U.S. didn't stop me, so I can be as evil as I want and it's all America's fault"

Tell me Solmon2 are Military Dictators perticularly of the Sort Zia was , not EVIL...???

 

[mshoaib61]

 

[Solomon2]

The Desire of Vengence for what they did to US in Veitnam .. All of that was Baloony ...!

I think you are myth-making to cover up your ignorance here.

Some times i wonder if it haven't been for the US support for the corrupt Zia Regime Pakistan wouldn't have acquired Nukes -

It was Mr. Bhutto who vowed, "We will eat grass but will make atom bomb [if India makes one]" long before Zia ruled Pakistan. The program already existed, but would have proceeded slower.

...and those Blasphemic laws too would have been repealed.

Zia was committed to dictatorship and knew that Islam had been employed by dictators to aid their rule in the past.

... The US commit this hypocrisy and deprived Pakistani People from Democracy and the right to choose the Government of there will by supporting various Military coupes to meet its own Hegemonic interests .

Nonsense. Instead it appears to me that you are pooping on the U.S. to excuse yourself of any responsibility for your country's situation. Or is there some other way for me to interpret what you are saying here?

 

[Solomon2]

Tell me Solmon2 are Military Dictators perticularly of the Sort Zia was , not EVIL...???

American diplomat Jeanne Kirkpatrick drew a distinction between authoritarian regimes and totalitarian ones. Authoritarian regimes which rule by force such as Franco's Spain can evolve over time into democratic ones; totalitarian regimes which attempt to rule people's thoughts like the Soviet Union or post-1979 Iran cannot. What route do you think Zia chose?