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Why we’re headed for the Nehruvian growth rate of 4-5 percent?

^^^ @AADHAAR why r you trying to prove your illogical argument? First define manufacturing then post.
Have you got any idea of Industrialization Saudis have done? DO you still think that their entire GDP is based on crude oil exports?
They have one of the biggest Petrochemical industry in the world. And it comes under manufacturing.

Here is the list of Saudi companies.

List of Companies in Saudi Arabia - Bloomberg

Top 100 Saudi Arabia Companies

KSA's Big 25 list of construction companies | ConstructionWeekOnline.com

un-faithfulguy proposed that Saudi Arabia's "manufacturing" GDP is greater than Spain, Netherlands, Indonesia, Mexico, Australia and India.

And, at first I couldn't believe it.. but then here are the facts:

List of countries by GDP sector composition - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Saudi Arabia beats India in terms of "manufacturing" .... lets accept it. :laugh:
 
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It does seem that Congress's policies haven't worked . BJP will come to power next . Lets see what they can do. I don't know what they can do differently though.

I hope job creation and increase in wages are a priority rather than just GDP growth rate.

Good local policies would help and some hard decisions has to be made. So i think after elections.

And most important thing global economy need to get its feet under it otherwise situation wont change too much
 
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Right now growth has slowed due to parliament lockdown and government stasis,when elections take place and new govt comes in 2014,again growth rate will pick up heavily.Investors waiting for that.
 
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Hindu rate of growth is nothing but the propaganda created by congressis and commies to put all blame on hindus....where was this hindu rate when India was growing with 10% ?
The pseudo seculars have made a mockery out of us hindus

The term 'Hindu rate of growth' was actually popularized by western economy analysts.
 
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You're an @$$hole.



Won't happen. From the time the BJP has smelled a chance (2 years ago), they've been stalling every major reform initiative. They WANT the economy to go down so that it helps them come to power.

I sincerly hope thats not the case. Economic downturn has already caused much damage and coupled with this percieved Policy Paralysis, India's image has taken a lot of beating something we see with dwindling foreign investment. However my view is that UPA 2 allies like TMC caused more damage than opposition. being in a strong position they virtually vetoed every bold decession that should have been taken. I'm not in favor of a party that drove bussiness away from its own state with its brand of hooligan politics. But over and above that UPA 2 rule shows a scary picture of things to come. Supposing NDA comes to power riding on support of its equally opportunist partners, situation won't be much different. Congress will again oppose anything constructive and at the end of the day its the economy and people like us who suffer.
I'm not sure but this slower growth (or whatever one likes to call it) is a result of political unstability and will remain so till some decesiveness comes at national level on poltical front.
 
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Return of Chidambaram has been a very positive. It was close to miraculous that he kicked the fiscal deficit like a bull .... over achieving Pranab Mukherjee "impossible looking" target of 5.1% !!!! - Actual achievement 4.9% !!

Its because of this that domestic inflationary pressures have reduced, and had the RBI reduce the interest rates twice.

External sector, esp the current account will impove over the current year... though, that is more exposed to global events.

My vote goes to: Chidambram for PM.

But before that, vote goes for stability. We want any grouping to get absolute majority; and both mamata and leftists are out.

Mulayam Singh Yadav, Lalu prasad Yadav and Nitish Kumar ... all acceptable.

Jayalalitha.. NO. DMK and NCP .. YES.

For NDA, it looks tight as of now. To be in contention, as of date, they have a fairly long way to go.
 
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Do you even know what the word means?

What that terminology means is irrelevant because as the word has hindu in it using the term will be against the secular credentials of India .

For being a congress supporter it is amazing that you cannot simply understand that congress logic.
 
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It does seem that Congress's policies haven't worked . BJP will come to power next . Lets see what they can do. I don't know what they can do differently though.

I hope job creation and increase in wages are a priority rather than just GDP growth rate.

1.) BJP cannot do a **** if it ends up in a situation with out a proper majority like the Congress now. Both parties dont care about the economy, they both want to get more power, thats all.

2.) In order to create enough jobs for our huge population, we need enough growth!
 
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All the signs are that India has entered a new phase of low growth – what we should call the Nehruvian natural state of 3-5 percent annual growth, which was wrongly dubbed the ‘Hindu rate of growth’. :omghaha: :omghaha:

Before we talk about these signs, it is worth asserting that a slowdown is the only thing that will help correct the gross economic distortions introduced by the UPA during its economically-damaging second term in office – which, of course, was the logical consequence of its roller-coaster ride in the first term where it abjured all reforms.

The distortions are the following:

One, there’s been a huge bloat in energy subsidies – in oil, gas, coal and power – which are essentially subsidies for the relatively rich or for business. Yesterday’s decision to double gas prices to $8.4 per mmBtu from 1 April 2014, and the earlier decision to keep raising diesel prices by 50 paise every month are tacit acknowledgements of this.

Two, the country is living wildly beyond its means – both internally and externally. The fiscal deficit – the difference between what the government earns and its proposed expenses before borrowings – is well over 5 percent if one includes oil subsidies that haven’t been budgeted for. In 2007-08, the deficit was Rs 1,26,912 crore; this year, even after P Chidambaram’s so-called austerity measures, the figure is more than four times higher at Rs 5,42,499 crore.

Worse, as the Reserve Bank’s figures released yesterday show, the country is deeply in debt to the world outside. The country has $261 billion in foreign exchange reserves (excluding gold); it has $390 billion in debt (as on 31 March 2013), and rising. If the world wanted its money back today, the country wouldn’t be able to return more than two dollars for every three dollars owed. And remember, nearly 60 percent of our debt has to be paid off over the next year. Is it any wonder the rupee is falling?

Three, the country has prematurely tried to create a welfare state even before it has had adequate opportunity to drive growth, and build state resources. From NREGA to loan waivers, Food Security to Land Acquisition, the Sonia Gandhi-led dispensation has poured money into wasteful schemes in a foolish bid to buy votes and stay in power. In the process, the government has also raised costs for all businesses. In an election year, it is unlikely that this government – any government – will have the guts to change course.

It is these politico-economic issues that make the India story unviable in the short-term. The immediate cause for the crash of the rupee is, of course, external, as the world is adjusting to the possibility of US Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke reducing his bond purchases, but the fundamental economic distortions are self-created by the UPA.

The India growth story is turning cold both because of past excesses and because corrective action will cause more pain in the short and medium term.

Now, for the signs of an economy that’s tapering down.

1. The drastic fall in the CAD for January-March period to 3.6 percent from 6.7 percent in the previous quarter is a signal not of a correcting CAD, but a slowing economy. The same is the case with inflation, which is falling not because of a better demand-supply balance, but declining growth. This is why the wholesale price index is at half the level of consumer prices, indicating that industry is unable to pass price increases through.

2. The doubling of gas prices and the steady increases in diesel are intended to raise domestic production and reduce imports. But the short-term impact of these price hikes will be inflationary – as gas costs feed through to fertiliser and power industries, and a falling rupee makes all energy costs higher. This will ensure that the slowdown will be with us not just this year, but also the next.

3. Food inflation is set to remain high, if not soar again. The prime reason for this will be the Food Security Bill. The FSB has two negative impacts: one is to raise the subsidy bill – which is inherently inflationary because higher food subsidies means higher procurement, which means higher support prices, which means higher storage, movement and fertiliser costs. The second negative is the obverse side of selling grains at Re 1, Rs 2 and Rs 3 a kg to the poor. The poor will buy the cheap grain and sell a part of it in the open market which will then be used for higher-protein food (milk, veggies, meat, eggs, etc). Recent food inflation has been caused not by rice or wheat, but protein items. The FSB will thus directly make food inflation worse. Nothing slows down an economy more than inflation.

4. The rupee’s depreciation will slow down all economic activities as imports are squeezed and borrowers in dollars squeeze budgets to pay back loans and invest less. In the near future, companies will prefer to hoard cash rather than invest since the economic climate will be uncertain. This will worsen the slowdown , given what we need to revive growth is more investment.

5. In June, foreign investors sold Rs 40,000 crore worth of debt and equity, indicating that they too think returns after adjusting for country and exchange risks will be better outside India. Without a market revival there is no chance that Indian companies themselves will invest.

In short, India’s growth story is back to the low-equilibrium levels of the Nehruvian era. The only antidote to it is very strong reforms in energy pricing, FDI, labour and land markets. Large chunks of the public sector need to be sold off – and not just divested piecemeal. Or else we should cut welfare spending drastically.

The UPA has killed the India story and its current actions do not suggest any reversal of this trend. For the next three years, I see growth in the range of 4-5 percent.
And a cut in welfare spending.

Why we’re headed for the Nehruvian growth rate of 4-5 percent - Firstpost

Where are the Dumbf*ck Yuppies with the Congress 10% Growth rate?

It was the BJPs policies from 1998-2003 which led to growth.

When that has dried, the country is jacked up!

The answer is simple....because we are ruled by the Nehru family, hence Nehruvian growth.
 
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1.) BJP cannot do a **** if it ends up in a situation with out a proper majority like the Congress now. Both parties dont care about the economy, they both want to get more power, thats all.

2.) In order to create enough jobs for our huge population, we need enough growth!

But the growth rate in the last 10 years has been largely jobless.

An average of 8 % growth should have created far more jobs than it has.
 
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But the growth rate in the last 10 years has been largely jobless.

An average of 8 % growth should have created far more jobs than it has.

I guess because it was mainly driven by the service sector which cannot employ the huge masses of less/non educated people ?
 
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we are heading there because of the policy paralysis of UPA and those things doesn't got on hold due to lack of numbers but due to lack of will.
 
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What that terminology means is irrelevant because as the word has hindu in it using the term will be against the secular credentials of India .

For being a congress supporter it is amazing that you cannot simply understand that congress logic.

Mean you don't know what it means.

I sincerly hope thats not the case. Economic downturn has already caused much damage and coupled with this percieved Policy Paralysis, India's image has taken a lot of beating something we see with dwindling foreign investment. However my view is that UPA 2 allies like TMC caused more damage than opposition. being in a strong position they virtually vetoed every bold decession that should have been taken. I'm not in favor of a party that drove bussiness away from its own state with its brand of hooligan politics. But over and above that UPA 2 rule shows a scary picture of things to come. Supposing NDA comes to power riding on support of its equally opportunist partners, situation won't be much different. Congress will again oppose anything constructive and at the end of the day its the economy and people like us who suffer.
I'm not sure but this slower growth (or whatever one likes to call it) is a result of political unstability and will remain so till some decesiveness comes at national level on poltical front.

Hardly. BJP was stalling parliament sessions at EXACTLY the same time when Yeddy was being exposed as a corrupt leader. BJP has used extreme negative tactics to scuttle economic growth. WOuld have been understandable if they had been truly interested in India's problems. It was pure opportunism.
 
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Don't give the overall BS. Point is every country do it. The level depend on its economy.
No country in the world has 100% open economy.

True. But India has one of the most closed economy. Indian economy was famous for inventing the local brand of Coke and Pepsi.:rofl:
 
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