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Why the time for a China-India water treaty is now

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China and India need to reach agreement on how they will manage water from one of the world's great rivers -- the Yarlung-Zangbo-Brahmaputra -- before it becomes another serious impediment to relations between the two Asian heavyweights.

Water scarcity already affects large parts of China and India. As their populations grow and income levels rise, forcing up demand for water-intensive food such as meat, the supply situation will worsen. Inevitably, that means tension over water resources.

There is a regional precedent for a bilateral water treaty: bitter rivals India and Pakistan, under prodding from the World Bank, signed the Indus Waters Treaty in 1960 to cover water use from the Indus and five other rivers that flow through the two nations. While far from perfect, the treaty has given farmers and other users in both countries a framework on which they can make crop production and hydropower decisions.

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Already, China's construction of a 540-megawatt hydropower dam on the Yarlung-Zangbo, which flows for 1,700 kilometers (1,050 miles) acrossthe southern Tibetan plateau before it enters Indian territory and becomes the Brahmaputra, is cause for concern in New Delhi. The dam, known as the Zangmu, is due for completion in 2015.

While the Zangmu dam is a relatively small project, there is something much bigger on the horizon: a 38,000-megawatt dam at Motuo, near the river's "Great Bend," which potentially could reduce the volume of water flowing into India and Bangladesh. While China maintains that any dams it builds on its part of the river will have little downstream impact, up to 150 million people living in eastern India and Bangladesh could be affected.

Almost half the world's population -- the 3.5 billion people living in Central,South and East Asia -- relies on water from the great rivers that rise in the Himalayas, the Tibetan plateau, and the Tibetan ethnic areas of China.

The way the most important of theserivers -- the Indus, Ganges, Brahmaputra, Salween, Yangzi, Yellow and Mekong -- are used carriesthe potential for conflict as countries struggle with the challenges of risingpopulations, pressure on farming andfood supplies, diminishing water quality and demand for hydropower.

China has always been prepared to move mountains and people to achieve its economic and social goals.The $25 billion Three Gorges Project, built in the upper reaches of the Yangzi River between 1994-2011, is testament to that.
Why the time for a China-India water treaty is now - CNN
 
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Almost half the world's population -- the 3.5 billion people living in Central,South and East Asia -- relies on water from the great rivers that rise in the Himalayas, the Tibetan plateau, and the Tibetan ethnic areas of China.

China has no water sharing treaty with ANY country.

If you have a concern, come and speak to us.

There is no point binding ourselves to any treaty.
 
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The river originate from Chinese soil, and are therefore property of the Chinese people, there should be a user fee to access this water source.

Xinjiang follows this model and buy water from Kazakhstan.
 
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The river originate from Chinese soil, and are therefore property of the Chinese people, there should be a user fee to access this water source.

Xinjiang follows this model and buy water from Kazakhstan.

hmm , interesting, tell this to your pakistani friends and see their reaction
 
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hmm , interesting, tell this to your pakistani friends and see their reaction

That is between you and Pakistan.

Anyway, you have already signed the Indus Water Treaty. You chose to bind yourself to a contract, why should we do the same?

If you had to do it all over again, what would you do? China had the foresight not to sign any water sharing treaties, you can't blame us for your own decision.
 
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seems Indians Have forgot the ltheir long learnt lesson in culture seems it always need them to be reminded like Hanuman who too forgot his skills.Basic lesson is.....


"Kshama shobhti us bhujang ko jiske pass garal ho
Usko kya jo dant-heen, vishrahit vineet saral ho"
 
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If you had to do it all over again, what would you do? China had the foresight not to sign any water sharing treaties, you can't blame us for your own decision.

Its Brahmaputra that matters most for us but it matters much more to Bangladesh. Hope Chinese will play their strategic game properly. :enjoy:
 
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The river originate from Chinese soil, and are therefore property of the Chinese people, there should be a user fee to access this water source.

Xinjiang follows this model and buy water from Kazakhstan.

Well IWT doesn't take that into account , source of all the western rivers is in India but we release all the water to Pakistan , and if a treaty can be arranged b/w India and Pakistan then a similar treaty can be arranged between us

seems Indians Have forgot the ltheir long learnt lesson in culture seems it always need them to be reminded like Hanuman who too forgot his skills.Basic lesson is.....


"Kshama shobhti us bhujang ko jiske pass garal ho
Usko kya jo dant-heen, vishrahit vineet saral ho"

Aunty Ji to aap hi bataiye kya kiya jaye , shall we let the people of NE and your ex East Pakistan suffer because of this.
 
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see India needs to be ready for a future war if China goes and does anything to harm water supply... simple be strong and take what is ur by force.. China in future will not stop from committing illegal and immoral activities of charging for or stopping water supply unless India has the capacity to wage war and stop them...

No amount of requesting will be useful...only be strong and demand.. and i think India is going right on that path.. cheers..!!
 
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see India needs to be ready for a future war if China goes and does anything to harm water supply... simple be strong and take what is ur by force.. China in future will not stop from committing illegal and immoral activities of charging for or stopping water supply unless India has the capacity to wage war and stop them...

No amount of requesting will be useful...only be strong and demand.. and i think India is going right on that path.. cheers..!!

India is atleast 40 years behind china is going the right path? Cheer..
 
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Just before the Colorado crosses theUS/Mexico border 75 percent of its flow is diverted into the All-Americancanal. From there the water is flushed into wasteful irrigationsystems and it eventually trickles down into the Salton Sea, oncean important stop on the Pacific flyway for migratory birds nowa toxic soup of fertilizer and pesticide runoff. Instead of abird paradise, the Salton Sea has become a killing ground, theavian equivalent of cancer alley.

The water that eventually makesit to Mexico-much of it run-off from Arizona and California alfalfaand cotton fields– is nearly as salt-laden and toxic as thatin the Salton Sea. The situation is so extreme that the Bureauof Reclamation was compelled to build a $211 “reverse-osmosis”desalination plant at Yuma, Arizona. But that plant, built in1992, has only operated for a year.

It comes down to consumption.People in the American southwest have yet to come to turns withthe fact that they live in a desert. Per capita water use by theresidents of California, Nevada and Arizona ranges up to as muchas 200 gallons a day, more than 120 percent above the daily averagefor the rest of the nation. In Israel, for example, daily waterconsumption is less than 75 gallons.

But as stark as these numbersare the thirst of California agribusiness is downright vampirishby comparison. Nearly, 80 percent of the Colorado’s flow goesto corporate farming. Much of it to low-valued crops, such asalfalfa, cotton and even potatoes, that require lots of water.And because of their political clout they get the water cheap.Residents of Los Angeles, for example, pay as much as $600 peracre-foot for water from the Colorado. Big agribusiness is gettingthe same water for only $13 per acre foot.

For nearly 150 years, the attitudeof the water users of the American West has been guided by onedictate: “use it or lose it.” The notion of allowingany water to remain in the river, for fish, for birds, for rafters,or for Mexico, has long been anathema to the water lords.

more>Why the Colorado River Doesn’t Meet the Sea » Counterpunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names



The mighty Colorado River never reaches the sea anymore and if China needs water from Yarlung-Zangbo-Brahmaputra the next few decades for survivals their fates could be similar but the struggles for India and China over the use of the river could be more deadly if no agreements can be reached the next decade or so. The OP is right.
 
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India is atleast 40 years behind china is going the right path? Cheer..

40 years wrong. China is behind India 20-30 Years.

IAF >> PLAAF, IN >> PLAN, IA > PLA

Misslies Overall China > India

but Indo-China Specific Missiles, India > China (brahmos, Agni 5, agni 4, Agni 3 etc better then comparative chinese ones)

Nuclear weapons, China >> India
But Number of fronts to defend against MUCH BIGGER POWERS -- Russia, US, Japan (and many other fronts so China cant use all weapons against India)

Number or weapons China > India

Economy China > India

that is as fair as it can get.!!
 
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