Why the current situation is positive

[MarkusS]

I see the crisis with russia as positive because it finally makes clear that the EU does not depend on tyrants. The dependency on energy delivery was way too much and will break away now. Of course that hurts in the short therm. But in the prospect it will help us enormous to push alternative energy forward. Buring fossil fuels is pathetic anyways.

On the other hand russia breaks apart. You can already see this on the disastrous deals that Putin makes with China and the development in the russian markets. Russia is an european nation and can not survive without europe.

I don´t see how russia could be able to reform itself into sucess. What i see is a cleptocracy without freedom, gigantic brain drain and retreat in evry single field. Its space industry is dead and so is their aviation.

Ukraine is our play ground now and all Putin could hold was the small crimea.

too put into comparission how pathetic Putins counter meassures are. His food ban on EU goods cost the EU 16 billion €. Germany alone earned additional 120 billion € from interest rate swaps last 3 months.

 

[aliaselin]

Winter is coming down, coming down, coming down...

 

[MarkusS]

Winter is coming down, coming down, coming down...

And?

1. Our house is not heated with gas
2. germany alone has gas reserves that would bring us through 4 months if 100% of gas delivery would be cut off. Since russia only delivers 40% i don´t see the problem.

In the long run it makes us indepened from gas at all. The goal must be to cut the use of gas to 0%. A modern society should not depend on fossil fuel at all.

 

[Mehrdad1111]

you see the EU way too positive. what is the EU? a bureaucratic monster with a old population and overrun by muslim and african migrants. also the EU states are extremley indebted and beside germany it's economy is weak and not competitive.

it's stuppid to initiate a trade war with russia like it was stuppid not to regard legitime russian security concerns. in the end, the EU will suffer, russia will suffer and the "laughing third" is the USA. i am NOT a USA basher. the USA are only focused on own strategic and national intrests and that includes a weak EU and russia. that's for example the reason why washington lobbies so hard for the absorption of the turkey into the EU. that will keep and make the Eu weak.

the main error here is that germany is NOT putting it's own national intrest on first place, neither in its relation with the EU, nor in the relation with russia.

btw: forget fracking in germany. the german population is not the same of the "wirtschaftswunder". the actual germans are very sceptical about modern technology and industry. they prefer the new "eco-religion". just look at the chaos germany caused by shutting down it's nuclear plants (the safest plants in the world).

 

[MarkusS]

you see the EU way too positive. what is the EU? a bureaucratic monster with a old population and overrun by muslim and african migrants. also the EU states are extremley indebted and beside germany it's economy is weak and not competitive.

it's stuppid to initiate a trade war with russia like it was stuppid not to regard legitime russian security concerns. in the end, the EU will suffer, russia will suffer and the "laughing third" is the USA. i am NOT a USA basher. the USA are only focused on own strategic and national intrests and that includes a weak EU and russia. that's for example the reason why washington lobbies so hard for the absorption of the turkey into the EU. that will keep and make the Eu weak.

the main error here is that germany is NOT putting it's own national intrest on first place, neither in its relation with the EU, nor in the relation with russia.

btw: forget fracking in germany. the german population is not the same of the "wirtschaftswunder". the actual germans are very sceptical about modern technology and industry. they prefer the new "eco-religion". just look at the chaos germany caused by shutting down it's nuclear plants (the safest plants in the world).

Dependency on russia is certainly not in german or european interest at all. An independend ukraine with good relations to EU is in our security interests. Russia is not a country i would see as a partner.

As for nuclear power plants. I dont want this shit in germany and im glad it shuts down.

 

[Audio]

Dependency on russia is certainly not in german or european interest at all. An independend ukraine with good relations to EU is in our security interests. Russia is not a country i would see as a partner.

Good relations and cooperation with Russia is i wouldn't say imperative for a strong and successful EU, but surely, it cannot hurt and can only benefit both parties.

As for nuclear power plants. I dont want this shit in germany and im glad it shuts down.

But you're happy with brown coal plants?

 

[MarkusS]

Good relations and cooperation with Russia is i wouldn't say imperative for a strong and successful EU, but surely, it cannot hurt and can only benefit both parties.



But you're happy with brown coal plants?

No, im not happy with brown coal plants. We need more bio gas, wind and water and best solution would be if we finally get fusion running.

Imalso support good relations with russia. Unfortunatelly the current regime ther does not want this.

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

I see the crisis with russia as positive because it finally makes clear that the EU does not depend on tyrants. The dependency on energy delivery was way too much and will break away now. Of course that hurts in the short therm. But in the prospect it will help us enormous to push alternative energy forward. Buring fossil fuels is pathetic anyways.

On the other hand russia breaks apart. You can already see this on the disastrous deals that Putin makes with China and the development in the russian markets. Russia is an european nation and can not survive without europe.

I don´t see how russia could be able to reform itself into sucess. What i see is a cleptocracy without freedom, gigantic brain drain and retreat in evry single field. Its space industry is dead and so is their aviation.

Ukraine is our play ground now and all Putin could hold was the small crimea.

too put into comparission how pathetic Putins counter meassures are. His food ban on EU goods cost the EU 16 billion €. Germany alone earned additional 120 billion € from interest rate swaps last 3 months.

maybe this is what you wish for but still there are some important issues
does the EU have the means for a clean energy right now or will you not use fuel until alternative energy can be placed
what would harm russia so much ? most of what the russians are getting from europe can come from china or russia
ukraine crisis is not over in the end we will know who won

 

[Audio]

We need more bio gas, wind and water and best solution would be if we finally get fusion running.

Renewables are iffy, expensive and unreliable and should not be the backbone of a continent or country that relies on strong industry.

Fusion is 30 years away, will be very difficult to rely just on renewables for a couple of decades.

Imalso support good relations with russia. Unfortunatelly the current regime ther does not want this.

Well, i think they already counted their losses in regards to Ukraine and just wanted a piece of the pie.
I'd say the recent relaxation of food sanctions is a good indicator of at least some sort of willingness to resolve the issues through.

 

[Mehrdad1111]

the main problem in the german energy transition is that every renewable energy needs a back up system of gas or coal plants in the case that wind isn't breeze or the sun isn't shining. that's the reason for the cost explotion. the people who pay this cost are the german middle class and also the backbone of the german economy: the medium-sized companies. we see the trend that this and greater companies invest more and more in the USA instead of germany. that trend can be seen at every level: from the global players BASF and HÖCHST down to the my neighboring town in which a aluminium factory is closing.

so NO, we don't need more renewable energies with a lot of subsidy. we need a energy policy which is realistic and does not tell us that 1% of the world population (germans) can save the world when they raise their energy price and expel the industry from the country. we need a energy policy which keeps the price low for industry and consumers. and a cooperation with russia would benefit both sides until maybe in 30 years when renewable energies can survive without subsidy which raises the energy price. germany actualy has the EU's 2nd highest energy price. that's intolerable.

 

[MarkusS]

I decide whats tolerable for me and i have no problem to pay more for clean energy. Nuclear power is not a solution for germany. We don´t even have a place for nuclear waste storagement. The desaster in the Asse proved that.

And i don´t see why i should buy cheap gas on the price of supporting facist Putin. We have to agree to disagree in this issue.

Face reality. The EU and Russia are at a state where a solution must be found where both sides can keep their face.

 

[Mehrdad1111]

indeed. we need a solution which is satisfying for both russia and the EU. the last thing we need is a new cold war in europe. it will hurt our security and economy. this solution can only come through respect and dialouge. putin is not erdogan imho. he is more european and intrested in europe then some people think.

 

[MarkusS]

indeed. we need a solution which is satisfying for both russia and the EU. the last thing we need is a new cold war in europe. it will hurt our security and economy. this solution can only come through respect and dialouge. putin is not erdogan imho. he is more european and intrested in europe then some people think.

How could such a solution look like?

Ukraine is now our sphere of influence and we won´t leave. We want russia to accpt this. On the other side we understand that russia needs the harbours at the crimea and we might accept that crimea is russian . That way both sides would hold the status quo and could save face.

 

[Mehrdad1111]

a first step would be to guarantee that nato forces will never enter unrainian soil. ukraine should never join the nato.

also ukraine must accept and respect the rights of it's russian population by giving them some sort of autonomy inside a federal system. the huge mistake of the kiew maidan "government" was that one of their first steps was to try to forbid russian as language in the ukraine. i mean how stuppid is that? no wonder that the russian population in the kuraine have lost the conficende in the kiew government. also the indiscriminate shelling of civilian populated areas in the east by the ukrainian army and the siege of whole cities which are without electricity and water for several weeks are not a positive actions.

on the other hand, russia must control it's borders with eastern ukraine with more border troops and prevent weapon transfer to this areas.

a immidiate ceasefire without any pre-conditions is the first step. russia recommended that but kiew refused.

the anti-russian propaganda specialy in german published opinion is totaly different to the public opinion. most germans dont want a cold war with russia because of the megalomaniac EU.

 

[MarkusS]

a first step would be to guarantee that nato forces will never enter unrainian soil. ukraine should never join the nato.

also ukraine must accept and respect the rights of it's russian population by giving them some sort of autonomy inside a federal system. the huge mistake of the kiew maidan "government" was that one of their first steps was to try to forbid russian as language in the ukraine. i mean how stuppid is that? no wonder that the russian population in the kuraine have lost the conficende in the kiew government. also the indiscriminate shelling of civilian populated areas in the east by the ukrainian army and the siege of whole cities which are without electricity and water for several weeks are not a positive actions.

on the other hand, russia must control it's borders with eastern ukraine with more border troops and prevent weapon transfer to this areas.

a immidiate ceasefire without any pre-conditions is the first step. russia recommended that but kiew refused.

the anti-russian propaganda specialy in german published opinion is totaly different to the public opinion. most germans dont want a cold war with russia because of the megalomaniac EU.

Ukraine is an independend country. If its people want join NATO who are we to denie their wish? Also your poiunts are 100% pro russian and do in no way pay tribute to our legitimate interests in the ukraine.