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Why should we order inquiry on hearsay? SC on PTI's cypher plea

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  • PTI had filed appeals against registrar's objections to petition seeking probe into US cypher.
  • Justice Isa says "We do not believe in speculations".
  • Says he will not interfere in state matters.
The Supreme Court dismissed on Wednesday the in-chamber appeals — challenging the objections raised by the apex court's registrar against the petitions seeking a probe into the US cypher — remarking why the court should order a probe on hearsay.

Justice Qazi Faez Isa heard the in-chamber appeals filed by the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) against the registrar's objections to the petitions seeking an investigation into the cypher — the cable allegedly threatening the ouster of Imran Khan's government.

During the hearing, Justice Isa said: "How can we order an investigation based on hearsay? We do not believe in speculations."

He said that the prime minister would have ordered a probe at that time if he wanted. "Why do you bring such cases before us? We already have so much on our plate," the justice said.

Justice Isa said that he will not interfere in the state matters, dismissing the three appeals and upholding the registrar's objections.

"How can the judiciary interfere in government affairs? I will not interfere in state matters and neither will allow the government to interfere in the judicial matters," said Justice Isa.

The judge said that the Parliament's building is right beside the Supreme Court, telling the petitioners to "go ask the Parliament" to give them the "authority to intervene in the state matters."

Justice Isa said that reading the cypher would be a violation of the Official Secrets Act, adding that no other citizen can read it.

Lawyer Naeem-ul-Hasan said that the government, at that time, called a meeting of the security council and issued a demarche and later the government was changed.

At this, Justice Isa said that the governments change.

He added that writing an order in open court is more appropriate so it doesn't give rise to speculations and assumptions.

The plea​

The PTI had filed a petition in the Supreme Court seeking an investigation into the US cypher.

The petitions were filed in the apex court by Advocates Zulfiqar Ahmed Bhutta, Syed Tariq Badar and Naeemul Hassan.

However, the apex court's registrar had raised objections against the plea.

Later, the PTI filed appeals challenging the registrar's objections. On January 24, Justice Sardar Tariq Masood was supposed to hear the in-chamber appeals, however he recused himself.
 
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Question:
Why then was a Demarche , endorsed by NSC, Military issued to a superpower?
Why PMLN leaders privately admit that this happened? M Minhas is one such kashmiri PMLN leader and MNS wants him to be the next PM of Kashmir. Just sayin...
 
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This swine will be our next Chief Justice.
Jesi kom wesy Chief Justice
 
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This swine would be our next Chief Justice.
Jesi kom wesy Chief Justice
قاضی فائز عیسیٰ کے سامنے جَب اِسکی بیوی کی اربوں کی بیرونِ مَلک جائیداد کے کاغز رَکھے گئے اور پوچھا گیا کہ یہ کہاں سے آئے تو قاضی صاحب کو جواب تھا "مجھے نہیں معلوم". پھر سرینا عیسیٰ نے کہا کہ "مجھے بھی نہیں معلوم" آج سائیفر کے معاملے پر جج صاحب نے دوبارہ "مجھے نہیں معلوم" کہ دیا!
 
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  • PTI had filed appeals against registrar's objections to petition seeking probe into US cypher.
  • Justice Isa says "We do not believe in speculations".
  • Says he will not interfere in state matters.
The Supreme Court dismissed on Wednesday the in-chamber appeals — challenging the objections raised by the apex court's registrar against the petitions seeking a probe into the US cypher — remarking why the court should order a probe on hearsay.

Justice Qazi Faez Isa heard the in-chamber appeals filed by the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf (PTI) against the registrar's objections to the petitions seeking an investigation into the cypher — the cable allegedly threatening the ouster of Imran Khan's government.

During the hearing, Justice Isa said: "How can we order an investigation based on hearsay? We do not believe in speculations."

He said that the prime minister would have ordered a probe at that time if he wanted. "Why do you bring such cases before us? We already have so much on our plate," the justice said.

Justice Isa said that he will not interfere in the state matters, dismissing the three appeals and upholding the registrar's objections.

"How can the judiciary interfere in government affairs? I will not interfere in state matters and neither will allow the government to interfere in the judicial matters," said Justice Isa.

The judge said that the Parliament's building is right beside the Supreme Court, telling the petitioners to "go ask the Parliament" to give them the "authority to intervene in the state matters."

Justice Isa said that reading the cypher would be a violation of the Official Secrets Act, adding that no other citizen can read it.

Lawyer Naeem-ul-Hasan said that the government, at that time, called a meeting of the security council and issued a demarche and later the government was changed.

At this, Justice Isa said that the governments change.

He added that writing an order in open court is more appropriate so it doesn't give rise to speculations and assumptions.

The plea​

The PTI had filed a petition in the Supreme Court seeking an investigation into the US cypher.

The petitions were filed in the apex court by Advocates Zulfiqar Ahmed Bhutta, Syed Tariq Badar and Naeemul Hassan.

However, the apex court's registrar had raised objections against the plea.

Later, the PTI filed appeals challenging the registrar's objections. On January 24, Justice Sardar Tariq Masood was supposed to hear the in-chamber appeals, however he recused himself.
I suppose when they opened the courts at midnight, that wasn't based on hearsay at all.
 
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"How can the judiciary interfere in government affairs? I will not interfere in state matters and neither will allow the government to interfere in the judicial matters," said Justice Isa.
then what about the rubbishing of no confidence motion? wasnt that interference by the judiciary?
 
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The Judge is wrong here, Imran Khan did hold an inquiry in Parliament's select committee on Security, where all military establishment was also present.

That Parliamentary committee rejected the INTERFERENCE narrative, though identified derogatory language in the cypher and decided to issue a Démarche.

If it was that serious matter for the then PTI government, it could have taken other measures also, like summoning back the diplomats or send back the US diplomats etc.

The outcome PTI expecting from SC was in the hand of PTI government, PTI government could do all things itself which it is demanding from SC. Why burdened SC??
 
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Faiz Isa got software update , because his family in Spain, property in UK. UK govt has all his financial illegal transaction records. Obviously, he will decline cipher, has no choice.
 
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The executive branch can declassify any document. Regarding the top secret docs tehy found at Biden's personal home, the White House stated that the prez. had them declassified hence Biden committed no wrong. Go figure! Such a fuddu qoum and fuddu patwaris notably the OP!
Wastnt theer a time PMLN was accusing IK of having removed the memo from PM house? if it does not exist, then how could it have been removed or made a copy of?
 
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