Why 'secular' Narendra Modi bashers must be ignored

[53fd]

One Good or Bad decision does not make a person doomed forever. Life gives second chances to everyone and those who learn from their mistakes and try to improve them makes them man of history. NaMo did what his personal choice was against "those" who "brutally" planned to kill people in a train attack. He can be rejected and can never come out of those mode when whole world was poiniting finger towards him. He made a choice later on and changed Gujrat totally with Social/ Economical culture. If we point a finger for his decisions in 2002 then we should also be open hearted to praise him for what he did in Gujrat.

Hitler & Stalin made one bad decision as well.

 

[Pride]

Hitler & Stalin made one bad decision as well.

Nopes they continued the same for so many years and never tried to change the same as well..

 

[axisofevil]

12 yrs ago I first heard of Modi....even then I was amazed by his vision. Today, I am still not surprised that my opinion of this man has not changed. Not in the slightest. In fact, Modi is someone that every Indian regardless of religion has to acknowledge. He is a hindu and rightwing at that. Is that a bad thing? No not if you look at Modi and what it means to India. His religious affiliation and ring wing credentials actually make a very ideal candidate for India's security. If our enemies hate him, there is a reason why and its not for the anti communal tones....remember there is a bigger picture. I am Christian and I have no problems seeing a man like Modi run India properly and effectively. I believe he is the only candidate in India's history post independence who has shown the caliber required to lead our nation to great heights this century. People point out to the reforms and the Gujarati economy but while those indicators are important, I look at something more personal. He wants to see his country rise and be the best. He want to see India progress to high points. More importantly, he being a Hindu actually aids him in a quirky way. I compare it to black man complex in America. This is my personal thoughts so please don't judge me. I feel the average black person in the US really works hard to dispel the stereotypes that come into many ppl.'s minds. They are conscious of that and go thru extraordinary dedication and great length to prove these are misconceptions. Modi as a Hindu does the same in that he wants to prove all the falsehoods about India. He wants the world to see we are not backward and that we can all get along.


Plz if the BJP is smart, do not ever put Advani up for election. I will fast to death.....because unfortunately Advani does not have the worldly vision we so greatly need in order for India to leap ahead others.

 

[axisofevil]

Did not know Modi was the PM when 1984 occurred or he was the CM when Bhagalpur occurred.

Thanks for enlightening us though !!

Damn that was such a good comeback for the Modi backers....to think I used to always support Cong but seeing how Rahul is being groomed to be a future PM simply because he is part of dynasty politics is REPULSIVE. I hope as Indians get more educated day by day, we will see Rahul for what he is .......a son of politician nothing more. Being born to politician doesn't make you a capable leader. Seeing how Rahul remarked he was working against corruption in a silent manner seems as an attempt to grab attention. Sorry Rahul you fail, you can complain that others don;t do anything but it comes down that you are one of the few ppl who are elected to actually do stuff. You are a part of the rot that permeates throughout Indians politics. You were not fighting it but helping it. Plz Rahul how do live so lavishously? You eat better than most of us, you have Z security paid for by the taxpayers, and yet your source of income is really sketchy...how do you live like a playboy? You watch games live in Europe with your girlfriend by your side? where does your income from. What is the source? You don't do nothing .....just talk. You politicians have been working silently for 47 yrs with no results. I want to see actions like what Modi is doing and has been doing. We need to realize we have the right folks right here .... In India by Indians!

 

[axisofevil]

Weeks ago, folks on this forum said corruption is inevitable in India and there is nothing we can do about it. Well, recently Anna provided a spark to the powder keg in all our heats and minds. The same folks stated Modi has no chance but mark my words, he will be PM....India's youth are getting tired of incompetent, LACK OF VISION, corrupt politicians....

 

[jayron]

One Good or Bad decision does not make a person doomed forever. Life gives second chances to everyone and those who learn from their mistakes and try to improve them makes them man of history. NaMo did what his personal choice was against "those" who "brutally" planned to kill people in a train attack. He can be rejected and can never come out of those mode when whole world was poiniting finger towards him. He made a choice later on and changed Gujrat totally with Social/ Economical culture. If we point a finger for his decisions in 2002 then we should also be open hearted to praise him for what he did in Gujrat.

Though it is just one instance, if proven that he indeed did it, he should be banned from from politics for life. Until he comes out clean from that case, it would be a shameful of us to put him in power. Moreover BJP has the habit of overstating achievements. I am doubting if the same is happening in case of his much publicized Gujarat performance too.

 

[axisofevil]

I dont use words like that for anyone, not even Rahul Gandhi who I dislike the most.

But MMS is not a strong leader and the only time I say some amount of spine in him was during the nuclear deal and I appreciate him for that. He is unfortunately just a puppet in the hands of the Sonia and her ilk especially in the second term. On leadership abilities there are many leaders better than him in India, not only Modi or Nitish.

The only qualities that still shield him are his personal integrity and honesty.

But those qualities are damn hard to get in Indian politics.....MMS is brilliant but when I met him as a finance minster I could sense he was a brilliant man but kind. The problem is in politics kindness will be your downfall. Sad but true.....but Madam is sharp an she keeps an eye out on events. As I said before, I have no qualms with MMS. I just know after MMS gives up office, I want Modi. Every other politician sucks...maybe I'll give AK Anthony a shot at PM though

 

[Pride]

Damn that was such a good comeback for the Modi backers....to think I used to always support Cong but seeing how Rahul is being groomed to be a future PM simply because he is part of dynasty politics is REPULSIVE. I hope as Indians get more educated day by day, we will see Rahul for what he is .......a son of politician nothing more. Being born to politician doesn't make you a capable leader. Seeing how Rahul remarked he was working against corruption in a silent manner seems as an attempt to grab attention. Sorry Rahul you fail, you can complain that others don;t do anything but it comes down that you are one of the few ppl who are elected to actually do stuff. You are a part of the rot that permeates throughout Indians politics. You were not fighting it but helping it. Plz Rahul how do live so lavishously? You eat better than most of us, you have Z security paid for by the taxpayers, and yet your source of income is really sketchy...how do you live like a playboy? You watch games live in Europe with your girlfriend by your side? where does your income from. What is the source? You don't do nothing .....just talk. You politicians have been working silently for 47 yrs with no results. I want to see actions like what Modi is doing and has been doing. We need to realize we have the right folks right here .... In India by Indians!

Right on target... this Mr Rahul doesn't do anything.. None of the roles or responsibilities he has taken and no such decision which made impact on society..

On other note, He is bringing more of his frnds in politics on the name of new generation and all of them are son of politicians.. Take Deora, Jindal, Pilot, Scindia.. I laughed seeing a news recently during Kerala election where Mr Rahul Gandhi made a comment that I am going to give youngest contestant for Kerala and that Mr youngest politician (27 years) was none other than son of other politician.. damn these politicians..

 

[axisofevil]

Thought it is just one instance, if proven that he indeed did it, he should be banned from from politics for life. Until he comes out clean from that case, it would be a shameful of us to put him in power. Moreover BJP has the habit of overstating achievements. I am doubting if the same is happening in case of his much publicized Gujarat performance too.

It is never going to be proven, so lets stop raking it up over and over again. The 1984 Anti Riots were a blot on Congress but we moved on. A lot of the culprits involved got away with murder. i am not saying this is justice anything but If Modi is proven guilty then by all means he might not deserve PM but he definitely should be in the MOD....his vision and work ethic is invaluable. Remember after 26/11, Modi offered to help develop a plan to protect our coastlines? Congress played the poetical card and refused his help, even his inputs was unofficially taken into consideration. This is the problem with our politics as is the problem in all democracies.

 

[Pride]

Thought it is just one instance, if proven that he indeed did it, he should be banned from from politics for life. Until he comes out clean from that case, it would be a shameful of us to put him in power. Moreover BJP has the habit of overstating achievements. I am doubting if the same is happening in case of his much publicized Gujarat performance too.

Do you think it can happen ever in India.. "A politician in a jail for his mistakes?" Its not possible.. It started with Nehru where even his son-in-law was against him and continued till today. We are still waiting for Sajjan Kumar to be hanged for Anti Sikh Riots..

I say if our judiciary is spineless and cant put Modi in jail then all Media persons/ Politicians/ Public figures spreading NaMo as killer should be sued under defamation case. After 20 yrs, Bofors Case is rejected where whole Gandhi-Nehru family was involved due to lack of evidence then why not same with Modi? Why double standards??

Regarding Progress of Gujrat.. What you see is what you believe? I saw and I appreciate the fact the way Gujrat is Progressing.. I saw change in Bihar and both are the cases of good leadership.. I have seen UP becoming more backwars what it was 10 yrs ago.. again a leadership issue.. Can u come up with such example where a paradigm shift is seen in effect of Congress CMs? Congress policy is "We wont do any work hence no progress no controversies"..

 

[Soumitra]

Latest updates on Modi:

Report indicts Modi on several accounts, including shunting out cops trying to stop riots, destruction of documents.

Why do these reports always come outr whenever there is an election? Congress has being trying this underhand trick for 8 years now but it has not been successful and will never be.

 

[axisofevil]

Why do these reports always come outr whenever there is an election? Congress has being trying this underhand trick for 8 years now but it has not been successful and will never be.

This is why the people need to be educated on such cheap tactics....it works because ppl are educated and enlightened to understand the politics behind this media garbage. All these years nothing came out and then out of nowhere, the report is coming out just as elections start? Are you F---ing kidding me? You know what it tells me....when you have Congress gunning for yr after yr......it tells you why they see Modi as their greatest threat....he is not someone they can sleep on....he works hard and is very effective at implementing policy.....Every article that comes out against him is biased because it is usually backed a political party. I'll let you guess which one?

 

[KS]

Yup, speaking of birds........oh well, nvm..

Ontopic- BJP , like joe says has always towed the fascist idealogy. Their agenda is quite clear when you look at them without a muddled head. How many times have they tried to mobilise the people to somehow 'subdue' the minorities? They tried peddling their crapware all over india until they finally realised, majority indians dont give a rats a$s for communal politics. Yet they try even today...albeit, in a roundabout manner.

BJP is a flawed party whose existence is no longer justified in 'rising india'. We are a nation that takes prides in our 'unity in diversity' . Alienating minorities will end up being severely counter-productive to india.

At any given day, if asked to choose between congress or BJP, i will go for congress in a heartbeat; simply because they are lesser of the two evils.

Its high time fascist elements like the BJP are removed from india. And as for modi, he should remain quarantined in gujarat indefenitely.

Offtopic - Would the 'quality' of discussion be maintained if everyone said "all hail king modi", unanimously?!

Just answer the questions I raised before and we can continue who is fascist and who is not ;

• Do you know who played communal politics in Punjab ?
  
• Do you know who played communal genocide going door by door searching for Sikhs and killing them ?
  
• Do you know who played communal politics in the Shah Bano case ?
  
• Do you know who played communal politics in the Ayodhya opening the shilanyas ?
  
• DO you know who played communal politics in attributing the 26/11 to Right wing groups ?

Yeah, you guessed it correct - It was the 'secular' Congress party that did all these.

For one Gujarats there has been plenty of Bhagalpurs in the Congress regime.

And kid there has been a whole range of religious parties in India like Akali Dal, MIM, PDP (Kerala), Muslim League and very recently a political party for the Christians has been formed. If they all are secular so are Hindu parties.Infact the PFI in Kerala which gruesomely severed the hand of a professor is still a 'secular' party and can compete in elections. So dont rant about communalism when all these parties who selectively pander to one community are there.

No I cant juggle with words like some people just adding the word fascist in ever line to describe patriotic orgs like RSS while at the same time condoning equally if not more communal parties from among the minorties. But what I can do is deal with facts.

 

[KS]

And one particular thing I found from even seasoned Professionals is while Congress is pseudo-secular BJP is communal and that Pseudo-secularism is far better.

No That is NOT better. Minorities (Christians,Muslims) are also religions and Hinduism is also a religion. So how does pandering to one is better while pandering to the other is worse ?

And for all those who say RSS wants a Hindu India and that they believe minorities should be wiped away - they were the one who protected many minorities (Sikhs) from being butchered by the 'secular' Congress. When did any RSS leader say that they want only a Hindu India and all the minorities must be wiped ? Frankly this hate vitriol is just sickening to say the least.

If RSS should be banned then so should the plenty of Muslim orgs, Christian orgs that are mushrooming by the day. Hey but them it would be communal, wouldnt it ?

 

[GORKHALI]

Just answer the questions I raised before and we can continue who is fascist and who is not ;

• Do you know who played communal politics in Punjab ?
  
• Do you know who played communal genocide going door by door searching for Sikhs and killing them ?
  
• Do you know who played communal politics in the Shah Bano case ?
  
• Do you know who played communal politics in the Ayodhya opening the shilanyas ?
  
• DO you know who played communal politics in attributing the 26/11 to Right wing groups ?

Yeah, you guessed it correct - It was the 'secular' Congress party that did all these.

For one Gujarats there has been plenty of Bhagalpurs in the Congress regime.

And kid there has been a whole range of religious parties in India like Akali Dal, MIM, PDP (Kerala), Muslim League and very recently a political party for the Christians has been formed. If they all are secular so are Hindu parties. Dont rant about communalism when all these parties who selectively pander to one community are there.

No I cant juggle with words like some people just adding the word fascist in ever line to describe patriotic orgs like RSS while at the same time condoning equally if not more communal parties from among the minorties. But what I can do is deal with facts.

Karthic donchu know we Indians suffers from Short term memory loss. Nobody remember the'' Sikhs Riot 1984'',becoz many of these guys who ranting about Modi were not even came to this world and when they started to open there eyes'' Gujarat Riots 2002'' took place . Hey isn't the same SIT made by Congress sarkar ,let modi go because he's innocent but on other hand Jagdish Tytler and H K L Bhagat.,well we know the whole story ...