Why Russia's Air Force Isn't Going Stealth (As in F-22 or F-35 Style Fighters)

[Dante80]

Russia has huge economy. Enough money to complete Su-57 project. India buy Su-57 to replace Su-30MKI. They have no other choice.

India spends around the same amount of funds yearly on defense as Russia. And the Indian economy is around 70% bigger. I don't think that the size of a country's economy has any bearing here though.

You are right btw. Russia will probably complete and field the Su-57 project, a lot of money and resources have already gone into it. Their initial estimates on the number of aircraft might not materialize though (mostly because there are far bigger priorities right now).

India has almost completely abandoned the FGFA project, and has certainly withdrawn all funding from it. I don't know whether they will choose to purchase the aircraft later (when it is more mature), but this is far from saying that they have no other choice, really.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

but this is far from saying that they have no other choice

China won't sell J-20 to India. F-35 is too small to replace Su-30. F-22 ain't for export. Guess what? They got no choice other than Su-57.

 

[Dante80]

China won't sell J-20 to India. F-35 is too small to replace Su-30. F-22 ain't for export. Guess what? They got no choice other than Su-57.

If the above assumption is concrete, then why did they withdraw from the project?

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

If the above assumption is concrete, then why did they withdraw from the project?

Did they? They already paid billions. That's all they'll ever pay. India has billions of poor to lift out of poverty.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Russia has huge economy. Enough money to complete Su-57 project. India buy Su-57 to replace Su-30MKI. They have no other choice.

then why at the start of the PAK-FA project Russia invites China or India to invest PAK-FA project @undertakerwwefan their so many military/civian projects is still running ,so no money for PAK-FA project to complete, Su-57 project's future is bleak and in jeopardy @undertakerwwefan and India pursuing its AMCA project after quieting PAK-FA project and PAK-FA project is not to replace MKI but complement of MKI @undertakerwwefan

Did they? They already paid billions. That's all they'll ever pay. India has billions of poor to lift out of poverty.

Yeah they almost quit the project, their lots of threads on this matter here on PDF @undertakerwwefan

 

[ptldM3]

Yes its a Su-27 with only frontal head on stealth rest are same as on Su-27 @undertakerwwefan

This is stupidity, no it's not an SU-27 or in anyways even barrows anything from the aircraft. Both aircraft are two radically different designs, from shape to avionics to capabilities they have nothing in common besides two engines. I also don't recall the SU-27 having canted side fuselage or canted tails for lower side RCS or weapons bays, or platform alignment or any other features.

 

[Ultima Thule]

This is stupidity, no it's not an SU-27 or in anyways even barrows anything from the aircraft. Both aircraft are two radically different designs, from shape to avionics to capabilities they have nothing in common besides two engines. I also don't recall the SU-27 having canted side fuselage or canted tails for lower side RCS or weapons bays, or platform alignment or any other features.

Believe whatever you want but facts is its modified stealth version of Su-27 with weapons bays and canted tails @ptldM3

 

[ptldM3]

then why at the start of the PAK-FA project Russia invites China or India to invest PAK-FA project @undertakerwwefan their so many military/civian projects is still running ,so no money for PAK-FA project to complete, Su-57 project's future is bleak and in jeopardy @undertakerwwefan and India pursuing its AMCA project after quieting PAK-FA project and PAK-FA project is not to replace MKI but complement of MKI @undertakerwwefan


Yeah they almost quit the project, their lots of threads on this matter here on PDF @undertakerwwefan

More crap, where is there no money for the SU-57? Russia has spend hundreds of billions on its military the last few years. The SU-57 program is pocket change.

 

[Ultima Thule]

More crap, where is there no money for the SU-57? Russia has spend hundreds of billions on its military the last few years. The SU-57 program is pocket change.

i already told you believe whatever you want but facts is Su-57 project's future is bleak and in jeopardy @ptldM3

 

[ptldM3]

Believe whatever you want but facts is its modified stealth version of Su-27 with weapons bays and canted tails @ptldM3

What facts? How did they modify the SU-27 into the SU-57 when they literally have no commonality? Name one part Wether it be, wing, intake, engine, canopy...anything that the SU-57 barrows from the SU-27. You can't "modify" something that has no relation to something else.


The SU-57 is as much an SU-27 as the F-22 is an F-15.

i already told you believe whatever you want but facts is Su-57 project's future is bleak and in jeopardy @ptldM3

Yea because you are the authority on Russian military projects. Russia spend like 700 billion on the military but they supposedly cannot find money for the SU-57 program which is 90% complete and not even Russia's most expensive program

 

[Ultima Thule]

What facts? How did they modify the SU-27 into the SU-57 when they literally have no commonality? Name one part Wether it be, wing, intake, engine, canopy...anything that the SU-57 barrows from the SU-27. You can't "modify" something that has no relation to something else.


The SU-57 is as much an SU-27 as the F-22 is an F-15.

I already told you believe whatever you want but facts is its way way behind from F-22/F-35 in the term of stealth/performance and other aspects @ptldM3

Yea because you are the authority on Russian military projects. Russia spend like 700 billion on the military but they supposedly cannot find money for the SU-57 program which is 90% complete and not even Russia's most expensive program

Keep farting without a base @ptldM3 Rau air force is not satisfied with the performance of Su-57 @ptldM3

 

[ptldM3]

I already told you believe whatever you want but facts is its way way behind from F-22/F-35 in the term of stealth/performance and other aspects @ptldM3


Keep farting without a base @ptldM3 Rau air force is not satisfied with the performance of Su-57 @ptldM3

Everything you have claimed has literally been baseless propaganda and stupid trolling. You can keep "telling" me more nonsense, it however would not make it fact. The SU-57 has unique features and "performance" no aircraft currently has so your performance wet dreams are drying up.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Everything you have claimed has literally been baseless propaganda and stupid trolling. You can keep "telling" me more nonsense, it however would not make it fact. The SU-57 has unique features and "performance" no aircraft currently has so your performance wet dreams are drying up.

Yes your wet dreams are drying up @ptldM3

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

i already told you believe whatever you want but facts is Su-57 project's future is bleak and in jeopardy @ptldM3

Prove it.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Prove it.

Believe what ever you want you troll, i am not responsible to spoon feed you Google it @undertakerwwefan