Why Russia Is Getting Closer To Pakistan And Abandoning India?

[GumNaam]

You are seriously delusional and get ur facts correct before posting or I am reporting you as a troll. India didnt had any of thise weapons , su30, brahmos , nuclear sub during 1999. All this entered service in india after that. Also , you r just getting 4 mi35 helis. Share the link where it says 100 helis. Also mi35 is a legacy junk heli which you are getting now and which we have been operating in big numbers since past two decades.

Dont try to beat ur empty drum troll. Where was ur paf when we were pounding ur so called mujhahdeen with laser guided bombs from mirage 2000s

okay lets go with that. why couldn't they use mig29s against PAF back then? After all, as per your own media, it was the PAF that was giving cover to the infiltrators so you could not stop their supplies, right? And PAF didn't have any BVR either. So why didn't you?

She isn't a specialist in anything, she is more of a content developer, go hire her on Upwork and check for yourself. ISI running out of money I guess. Cmon atleast hire some reputed journalist lol

i guess that makes everything aaaalright now doesn't it?

 

[wiseone2]

25 actually. Each with 4 ATGM, so that's 100 melted indian tanks and that's just in one go. Yeah, now you are scared.

provide me with the link for the deal for 25 choppers

 

[GumNaam]

provide me with the link for the deal for 25 choppers

1. google it.
2. just count the choppers in that video, that video alone shows 9 or 10 of them lined up.

 

[wiseone2]

1. google it.
2. just count the choppers in that video, that video alone shows 9 or 10 of them lined up.

http://thediplomat.com/2016/12/pakistan-to-receive-4-attack-helicopters-from-russia/
4 choppers for $153 million

I was off on the original price quote by $100 million

 

[WiderMan]

Alas!, Russia and Pakistan have finally realized that both political friends and enemies, don't last forever. The huge investments Russia tends to make will benefit Pakistan, therefore the cooperation between the both countries is a great step.

 

[Dragon4]

okay lets go with that. why couldn't they use mig29s against PAF back then? After all, as per your own media, it was the PAF that was giving cover to the infiltrators so you could not stop their supplies, right? And PAF didn't have any BVR either. So why didn't you?


i guess taht makes everything aaaalright now doesn't it?

No wait, check your specialist's previous works in South Asian affairs.

https://www.upwork.com/mobile/freelancers/~01b6137674b13f081a/work-history

 

[GumNaam]

http://thediplomat.com/2016/12/pakistan-to-receive-4-attack-helicopters-from-russia/
4 choppers for $153 million

I was off on the original price quote by $100 million

that's just the first batch genius. That video alone shows 10 of them. if you are in denial then there's nothing I can do for your ailment.

anyways, bring Pakistan in the discussion won't help you. The actual issue is why russia is slowly parting ways with india. get back on topic.

 

[sadia kayani]

Russia will keep providing India what it wants, Pakistan would initially want to have same relationship in which Pakistan could also get everything which it needs from Russia.

Pakistan's economy is on the rise and after Nawaz is replaced with a new leadership, it is expected to grow even fast. Funds, money and financial matters would not be a hindered in another 2 years time.[/

I kinda disagree. I am convinced that Pakistan wants to become completely independent in weapons and makes its own platforms for its own requirements. Meaning, I feel that Pakistan has taken a different and a more pragmatic approach altoether.

i agree ..as this cud be our future policy with Russia

 

[wiseone2]

that's just the first batch genius. That video alone shows 10 of them. if you are in denial then there's nothing I can do for your ailment.

what video ??

Repeating fake facts does not make it true

 

[GumNaam]

what video ??

Repeating fake facts does not make it true

oh bboy. okay dude, just scroll up the pages and look. right now your just wasting bandwidth!

 

[ibnarastoo]

The moderators are perhaps partially to blame for this obsession with our nice neighbors India. Here we have awesome news of friendly relations with a beautiful people and our people instead of focusing on improving their quality of life are getting involved in argumentative conversations with these nice Indians.

(1) ban the Indians & Indian sympathizers
(2) prohibit personal attacks (deviation from issues)
(3) prohibit profanity and verbal attacks
(4) actively promote ideas, stories etc. which improve Pakistan.

 

[GumNaam]

Man, dead silence from all the indians all of a sudden after all those utterly worthless arguments. Such a sad bunch of people!

 

[Panther 57]

But Russia-Indian relations came crashing down in 2016. Why?

So why on Earth would Russia lose interest in its seemingly perfect, long-time ally? Why all of a sudden Russia has warmed up to Pakistan, its Cold War rival and the biggest historical enemy of India?

Russia's relation with India haven come crashing down, but distance between them has definitely increased. Russia will not let loose its alley of 70 years. However, this distancing is because India's inclination towards USA. India is also right in developing relations with US and western world as these countries are biggest market of Indian human resource export. India certainly has abundance. So it is pure economic reasons for which India is looking towards western world.

And while Russia has been in normal relations with China for a while now, their relations significantly improved when Russia annexed Crimea in 2014 and the West started putting heavy sanctions on Moscow.

China is a traditional ally of Pakistan and always supports it in any international conflicts. China will never let anyone hurt its allies. Russia knows it.

China and Russia enjoy very good relations. they slightly distanced out after disintegration of USSR. Glasnost and Perestroika took its toll. Albeit, some good results as well, supremacy of USSR was badly compromised.

Results of these two doctrines were catastrophic with emergence of single superpower making it a unipolar world. The sole superpower played havoc, especially in ME.

Putin is a nationalist and he did away with glasnost concentrating on a perestroika, with a vision to regain the lost USSR strength. He has been very successful in taking corrective action for

With India inclined towards US, Russia sees losing its control over Indian Ocean and Persian gulf. ME is already in trouble and they are sitting in US lap. South China sea, though disputed, still remains under the influence of China. Pakistan remains the only country which can support Russia's presence in the vicinity of Persian Gulf and Indian Ocean.

Furthermore, nuclear and ballistic capability is one of the major factors in nominating superpower. By joining hands with China and Pakistan, Russia can create imbalance of nuclear and ballistic strengths, against US. Thus emerging as consortium of next generation superpower. Not to forget its relations with Iran, which is a nuclear power though undeclared.

 

[GumNaam]

Russia's relation with India haven come crashing down, but distance between them has definitely increased. Russia will not let loose its alley of 70 years. However, this distancing is because India's inclination towards USA. India is also right in developing relations with US and western world as these countries are biggest market of Indian human resource export. India certainly has abundance. So it is pure economic reasons for which India is looking towards western world.




China and Russia enjoy very good relations. they slightly distanced out after disintegration of USSR. Glasnost and Perestroika took its toll. Albeit, some good results as well, supremacy of USSR was badly compromised.

Results of these two doctrines were catastrophic with emergence of single superpower making it a unipolar world. The sole superpower played havoc, especially in ME.

Putin is a nationalist and he did away with glasnost concentrating on a perestroika, with a vision to regain the lost USSR strength. He has been very successful in taking corrective action for

With India inclined towards US, Russia sees losing its control over Indian Ocean and Persian gulf. ME is already in trouble and they are sitting in US lap. South China sea, though disputed, still remains under the influence of China. Pakistan remains the only country which can support Russia's presence in the vicinity of Persian Gulf and Indian Ocean.

Furthermore, nuclear and ballistic capability is one of the major factors in nominating superpower. By joining hands with China and Pakistan, Russia can create imbalance of nuclear and ballistic strengths, against US. Thus emerging as consortium of next generation superpower. Not to forget its relations with Iran, which is a nuclear power though undeclared.

agreed. and the kicker is that india's new so called strategic partner owes over $2 trillion is debt that it just doesn't have to pay should China decide to call in its debts.

 

[Beast]

Pakistan biggest bet in history is to stick with the Chinese throughout is independence. And it's paying the dividend.

Just like Jerry Yang big USD1billion investment in alibaba in 2005 which multiple to 20-30times now.