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why Peaceful muslims are irrelevant and world only view the radicals as representing Islam

More Christians have been killed by the fellow Christians in the 1st and 2nd world wars, and later by the American in South Americas. The entire pre-Muslim history of India is composed of killing of Hindus by rival Hindus. More Chinese have been killed by the Chinese during the revolution and same is true for Bolshevik revolution where tens of thousands of Russians were massacred by the fellow Russians. What is happening in the Muslim world is nothing new; it has been happened before and still happening in many parts of the world, it is not highlighted by the media is a different story altogether.

I respectfully disagree there. Sectarian violence was rather low in Christianity and almost non-existent in Hinduism even in older times, and nowhere comparable to the scale seen in some Islamic lands today.
 
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Utter waste of time getting engaged with you. Baath party was sectarian? Please do some reading.

Are you aware that many of IS cadres are former baathi's? - IS being sectarian is an understatement.
 
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I respectfully disagree there. Sectarian violence was rather low in Christianity and almost non-existent in Hinduism even in older times, and nowhere comparable to the scale seen in some Islamic lands today.
There was/is a severe rift between Roman Catholic and Greek Orthodox, and protestants, in-fact as severe as we see between Shia and Sunni. Besides, I was simply referring to the killing of people in the hands of fellow followers of the same faith. Reasons could be different depending on what suited them at that particular time of conflict.
 
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Extremism is on the rise everywhere in the world. If Indians can elect RSS/BJP/Modi than you lose moral ground to talk about this issue. You have not been to many (or any) other Islamic countries but I have been, and currently residing in Malaysia. Malaysia (and Brunei even more) is very radical when it comes to Islam. Come to see for yourself. You'll forget about Pakistani radicalism.
sir do you even know what RSS is all about or just gloat what your media or should i say owr media tries to potray

well RSS was founded tosave indian culture and values from british missionarry onsalught and work forbetter health , education and bringing change in non imprtant rituals of indian masses

RSS main ideology is "bharat wrsh/hindustan" hamari matr bhoomi hain keval bhoomi matr nahi"india is owr mother land not just a piecde of land"

go and google all the climatik casatrophies or rail accidents or any other event you will see RSS swayamsevaks first to reach there and help the victims and needy

as for congeeress trying to demonise RSS or BJP well why does nawaz sharif and his party is tryiong to demonise quadri and imran khan


well sir get your acts right did you ever saw any riot in india scrutenised like what gujrat riots are and tell me the last riot where there were so many convictions and why count even after 10 years in power UPA govts could produce any proof of corruption or BJPs or Modis implicity in gujrat riots


well we indian are practicing real democracy and dont think twice to throw owt the corrupt no matter who they are we dont get into stupid buisness of "mauroosiat" if modi fails tommorow he will to be shown the door

so dont worry about indians or fate of inida try to fix your problems and problems of your nation

hope you dont mind thinking on that sir
 
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so dont worry about indians or fate of inida try to fix your problems and problems of your nation

hope you dont mind thinking on that sir
Same advice for you. There are a number of problems in you own backyard which need fixing. Please pay attention to those and don't worry about Pakistan.
 
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There was/is a severe rift between Roman Catholic and Greek Orthodox, and protestants, in-fact as severe as we see between Shia and Sunni. Besides, I was simply referring to the killing of people in the hands of fellow followers of the same faith. Reasons could be different depending on what suited them at that particular time of conflict.

But you seemed to imply that sectarian violence was common in olden times within Christianity and Hinduism, which wasn't the case. Whatever the schism, violence was very rare.

Moreover instances of fights between Islamic kingdoms over land are being ignored when referring about sectarian violence, in spite of both perpetrators and victims being Muslim. So why should such cases be counted when it comes to Christianity or Hinduism?
 
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Same advice for you. There are a number of problems in you own backyard which need fixing. Please pay attention to those and don't worry about Pakistan.
well we dont worry about pakistan much but we are always vigilant of paistanies and there problems and realli interested how they go on in trying to solve those problems as most often we see pakistani establishment raking up the "indian paranoia"to divert the attention from the results of there corruption and mistakes and too very often we indians are dragged in and made victims of "pakistani state sponsered terrorism" which infact is a diversionarry takit long bieng used by corrupt , geredy and incompitant pakistani establishment (feudal , political , milliatarry)

we dont care even if pakistan is there or not but it becoms owr concern when pakistanies inorder to get breathing space in there own house try to create trouble in owr house

and now since pakistani establishment has ran owt of options and all the players "so called friends not master , all weather friends and brotherli nations" who helped them at one time or the anther and gave them too many lifelines are also becomming more and more warry of pakistani establishemnst idiotiks so now pakistani establishemnt is trying to play the victim card

but the thing is you can make fool of some people for some time but you cant make fool of all the people all the time .... but if even after bieng exposed you still try to do what you always did the result is the state of affairs of pakistan today

thanks sir
 
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The west always needed a boogeyman even before the fist busting, 24th floor jumps of Hollywood dramas. Let's not go too far back in history (the Inquisitions etc) but rather start at the turn of the 20th century.

  • At the turn of the 20th century, the Jews still clung onto the lead of the most despised people in the world. Everything which went wrong was lumped onto the Jews. They were the west's boogeyman. Strangely, the blame for the Great War (WW1) was directed at Jewish funding not only by the Germans but also by the Allies.
  • After Hitler's policy against the Jews and the genocide, the west decided that they needed a new boogeyman. For a brief but considerable period, the Black became the west's boogeyman. He was naturally a thief. Lazy as hell and stank like the garbage you disposed off two months ago. He was incapable of logical and independent thinking.
  • When the Blacks rose up in protest, the west decided to find a new boogeyman. Stalin and Krushnev and offcourse Mao and Castro helped them fill this space. Enter the Communist boogeyman. Mass murderers and haters of the free world, every commie was out to kill those who valued freedom.
  • With the fall of communism, the west was bored. Hollywood managed to fill the space briefly with make belief boogeymen by reviving heroes such as Superman and other fantasy characters with their own genocidal enemies but reality is the best story to be told. North Korea briefly enters the fray with its claims of being nuclear capable but is dismissed by the western masses as being too outdated. After all the Vietnam War filled that space.
  • With the grace of God, the Afghan war ended and Osama Bin Laden enters our lives. He gives the west a boogeyman which is ideal for a good few generations. The Muslim boogeyman. A different culture, a different race and a genocidal bunch of maniacs out to destroy the civilized world with Jihad and restore it to the era of marauding horsemen. Thus begins the era of the Muslim boogeyman. Pick up your popcorn, sit back and enjoy the show. This boogeyman hates everything which doesn't conform to his religion. He is out to destroy the civilized world. He comes with a ready made outfit. Heck even his wife does. And he has grief against anybody who doesn't pray the way he does. He is a convertor. He comes with a holy book.

Now, all we have to do is sit back and enjoy the show until the next boogeyman turns up :undecided:
 
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The west always needed a boogeyman even before the fist busting, 24th floor jumps of Hollywood dramas. Let's not go too far back in history (the Inquisitions etc) but rather start at the turn of the 20th century.

  • At the turn of the 20th century, the Jews still clung onto the lead of the most despised people in the world. Everything which went wrong was lumped onto the Jews. They were the west's boogeyman. Strangely, the blame for the Great War (WW1) was directed at Jewish funding not only by the Germans but also by the Allies.
  • After Hitler's policy against the Jews and the genocide, the west decided that they needed a new boogeyman. For a brief but considerable period, the Black became the west's boogeyman. He was naturally a thief. Lazy as hell and stank like the garbage you disposed off two months ago. He was incapable of logical and independent thinking.
  • When the Blacks rose up in protest, the west decided to find a new boogeyman. Stalin and Krushnev and offcourse Mao and Castro helped them fill this space. Enter the Communist boogeyman. Mass murderers and haters of the free world, every commie was out to kill those who valued freedom.
  • With the fall of communism, the west was bored. Hollywood managed to fill the space briefly with make belief boogeymen by reviving heroes such as Superman and other fantasy characters with their own genocidal enemies but reality is the best story to be told. North Korea briefly enters the fray with its claims of being nuclear capable but is dismissed by the western masses as being too outdated. After all the Vietnam War filled that space.
  • With the grace of God, the Afghan war ended and Osama Bin Laden enters our lives. He gives the west a boogeyman which is ideal for a good few generations. The Muslim boogeyman. A different culture, a different race and a genocidal bunch of maniacs out to destroy the civilized world with Jihad and restore it to the era of marauding horsemen. Thus begins the era of the Muslim boogeyman. Pick up your popcorn, sit back and enjoy the show. This boogeyman hates everything which doesn't conform to his religion. He is out to destroy the civilized world. He comes with a ready made outfit. Heck even his wife does. And he has grief against anybody who doesn't pray the way he does. He is a convertor. He comes with a holy book.

Now, all we have to do is sit back and enjoy the show until the next boogeyman turns up :undecided:

You are right 9/11, 26/11, ISIS, Indian-Mujaheedin, SIMI, Partition of India, Boko Haram, More than 50 Islamic Nations etc are all fictions.
 
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The west always needed a boogeyman even before the fist busting, 24th floor jumps of Hollywood dramas. Let's not go too far back in history (the Inquisitions etc) but rather start at the turn of the 20th century.

  • At the turn of the 20th century, the Jews still clung onto the lead of the most despised people in the world. Everything which went wrong was lumped onto the Jews. They were the west's boogeyman. Strangely, the blame for the Great War (WW1) was directed at Jewish funding not only by the Germans but also by the Allies.
  • After Hitler's policy against the Jews and the genocide, the west decided that they needed a new boogeyman. For a brief but considerable period, the Black became the west's boogeyman. He was naturally a thief. Lazy as hell and stank like the garbage you disposed off two months ago. He was incapable of logical and independent thinking.
  • When the Blacks rose up in protest, the west decided to find a new boogeyman. Stalin and Krushnev and offcourse Mao and Castro helped them fill this space. Enter the Communist boogeyman. Mass murderers and haters of the free world, every commie was out to kill those who valued freedom.
  • With the fall of communism, the west was bored. Hollywood managed to fill the space briefly with make belief boogeymen by reviving heroes such as Superman and other fantasy characters with their own genocidal enemies but reality is the best story to be told. North Korea briefly enters the fray with its claims of being nuclear capable but is dismissed by the western masses as being too outdated. After all the Vietnam War filled that space.
  • With the grace of God, the Afghan war ended and Osama Bin Laden enters our lives. He gives the west a boogeyman which is ideal for a good few generations. The Muslim boogeyman. A different culture, a different race and a genocidal bunch of maniacs out to destroy the civilized world with Jihad and restore it to the era of marauding horsemen. Thus begins the era of the Muslim boogeyman. Pick up your popcorn, sit back and enjoy the show. This boogeyman hates everything which doesn't conform to his religion. He is out to destroy the civilized world. He comes with a ready made outfit. Heck even his wife does. And he has grief against anybody who doesn't pray the way he does. He is a convertor. He comes with a holy book.

Now, all we have to do is sit back and enjoy the show until the next boogeyman turns up :undecided:

You can rejoice now, the west has lost direct interest in this "boogeyman" now, they are pulling back from frontlines and are only arming the kurds, israeli's afghans etc to fight their boogeyman. While we, set up various intel operations groups to fight this "boogeyman" on our soil.
 
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You are right 9/11, 26/11, ISIS, Indian-Mujaheedin, SIMI, Partition of India, Boko Haram, More than 50 Islamic Nations etc are all fictions.

Can all Hindus be held responsible for Sri Lanka and its LTE , Kashmir and India's problems there etc ? When I say all Hindus I mean inclusive of Hindus living elsewhere in the world and who have never been to India? If not, accept that lumping people into the collective is plainly just stupid
 
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Can all Hindus be held responsible for Sri Lanka and its TTE , Kashmir and India's problems there etc ? When I say all Hindus I mean inclusive of Hindus living elsewhere in the world and who have never been to India? If not, accept that lumping people into the collective is plainly just stupid

LTTE never said that it was fighting to establish a Dharmic Empire. Did you ever see LTTE fighter carrying Hindu religious scriptures while training? Mere existence of 50 Islamic Theocratic States is a proof of the fact that the danger is real.
 
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LTTE never said that it was fighting to establish a Dharmic Empire. Did you ever see LTTE fighter carrying Hindu religious scriptures while training? Mere existence of 50 Islamic Theocratic States is a proof of the fact that the danger is real.

  • The principle remains the same. If LTTE wasn't fighting for a state based on identity then what exactly was their problem with the Lankan government of the day ???
  • 50 Islamic theocratic states ? Now, you would hold 1,5 billion people responsible for the political aspirations of the rulers of some 50 states ? Please spare me the can
 
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  • The principle remains the same. If LTTE wasn't fighting for a state based on identity then what exactly was their problem with the Lankan government of the day ???
  • 50 Islamic theocratic states ? Now, you would hold 1,5 billion people responsible for the political aspirations of the rulers of some 50 states ? Please spare me the can

Why don't you ask a Muslim whether he/she would wish to live in an Islamic State or a Liberal state. Please ask a "Liberal" Pakistani Muslim and do let me know the response. In fact the "liberal Muslim" exists in fiction only, in reality you are a Muslim or you are not.
LTTE was not fighting with religious motives. FULL STOP.
 
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Sorry in Islam we are told to respect other peoples deities and religious figures. I would have add though that Muslims should respond to propaganda with positive PR and writing books in response. Going ape on streets and shouting death to the west is exactly the type of response the media and writers want for their ratings.


Words are cheap - Only actions are expensive!

During Osama Bin Laden, 85% of Pakistanis were PRO OBL...May I know why?
It clearly shows there are stealth Jehadis among normal one's, kind of sleeper cells..
Its all about the built-in ideology.
Like a programmed computer...
 
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