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Jordanians have strong reasons for rejecting Israel - for some, these are nationalistic, for others, they are religious.


Five and a half years before Jordan signed its peace treaty with Israel at Wadi Araba in October 1994, the country saw the eruption of its first major revolution since its creation by the British in 1921. Dire economic conditions and a series of draconian measures adopted by the pro-Syria government of Zaid al-Rifai to restrict political activities and curtail civil liberties, sparked what became known as the April (1989) uprising of the South.

In anticipation of the need to adopt a severe austerity programme and in a bid to appease disgruntled masses, the late King Hussein launched a process of political liberalisation that included new legislative elections. However, the Jordanian democratic honeymoon was short lived. The massive popular show of support the Islamists received in the elections, the 1991 Gulf war provoked by Saddam Hussein's invasion of Kuwait in August 1990, and the Madrid Peace Conference in late 1991 were among some of the factors that dissuaded the king from pursuing the democratic reform path. Yet, the most important impediment to democratisation has been the peace treaty with Israel.

The people of Jordan, just like the majority of Arabs and Muslims, do not recognise the legitimacy of Israel's occupation of Palestine. Israel's very existence on a land that was usurped by force continued to be regarded as an aggression against the entire Ummah. Generation after generation, Arabs, foremost among them the Jordanians - who until recent years did not see Palestine and Jordan as separate entities - aspired to see Palestine liberated and the Zionist project aborted. Jordanian children like their fathers before them, grew up learning by heart details of what happened to Palestine and its people, several millions of whom ended up living in Jordan permanently either as refugees or as Jordanian citizens. Invariably, Jordanians have strong reasons for rejecting Israel; for some people these are nationalistic, for others they are religious and for a great many they are personal.

Public sentiment

Yet, the Jordanian public sentiment was for much of the history of the Zionist occupation of Palestine at odds with that of the ruling elite in Jordan. Since King Abdullah the First, the founding monarch, the Hashemite rulers of Jordan have maintained clandestine contacts with the Israelis. They probably would have recognised Israel much earlier had circumstances permitted them. Nevertheless, their political discourse, at least until the Madrid peace conference, remained within the bounds of Arab consensus, paying lip service to the public sentiment.

There was even a time when Jordan was home for the PLO resistance factions and other times when King Hussein competed with Yassir Arafat over who legitimately represented the people of the West Bank who were, until the mid-1980s, still considered Jordanian citizens.

Therefore, it was to be expected that political liberalisation in Jordan would not assist in the conclusion of any peace deal that might recognise Israel's right to exist. It even became clear that any fair legislative election, as part of such a process of liberalisation, was going to produce a parliament with a sizable Islamic representation and most likely a majority that would be opposed to any move towards Israel in contradiction with the people's wishes. A free and powerful parliament in Jordan would never authorise the executive to sign a peace deal with Israel.

It is no wonder then that after the Madrid conference and less than two years away from the next parliamentary elections the Jordanian authorities embarked on changing the election law.

The aim was to restrict the ability of the Islamists in particular, but more generally any candidates who were not to the liking of the intelligence services, to gain votes in sufficient numbers to guarantee a seat in parliament. The measure soon paid dividend. The legislative elections of November 1993 resulted in reducing, substantially, the parliamentary share of the Islamists and other political trends allied with them. The king had his parliament of choice, one that would bless whatever it is asked to endorse.

A mirage

What was hailed as a genuine transition to democracy in the autumn of 1989 soon proved to be a mirage. Throughout the initial stages of political liberalisation, and despite some tangible improvements in the record of human rights and civil liberties, the king made sure he relinquished very little of his powers to the elected parliament. And as soon as the post-Madrid Washington talks started, Jordan saw a rapid reversal of many of the positive steps taken earlier. The intelligence services gradually regained many of the powers they had lost during the initial period and this led to heavy restrictions on freedoms of expression, of assembly and of movement.

The regime was not content with just changing the election law, opposition groups, some of whom chose to boycott subsequent elections, claimed that those elections were rigged, or somehow interfered with, in order to produce rubber stamp parliaments.
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Why peace with Israel was bad for Jordan - Al Jazeera English
 
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Ok so why was peace with Israel bad for Jordan exactly? Failed revolts? There would have been many more of those if Jordan hadn't made the necessary economic connections by signing the treaty. Not to mention that the peace treaty ensures that Jordan can, and consistently has, help(ed) Palestinians in the West Bank and gaza through the Jordanian embassy. I can see why the concept of peace with Israel is rejected by many in Jordan but there are more elements to this treaty and it benefits Jordan in many ways.
This piece is basically anti-Hashemite propaganda and doesn't give any legitimate reasons for why the peace treaty is bad.
 
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Jordanians have strong reasons for rejecting Israel - for some, these are nationalistic, for others, they are religious.


Five and a half years before Jordan signed its peace treaty with Israel at Wadi Araba in October 1994, the country saw the eruption of its first major revolution since its creation by the British in 1921. Dire economic conditions and a series of draconian measures adopted by the pro-Syria government of Zaid al-Rifai to restrict political activities and curtail civil liberties, sparked what became known as the April (1989) uprising of the South.

In anticipation of the need to adopt a severe austerity programme and in a bid to appease disgruntled masses, the late King Hussein launched a process of political liberalisation that included new legislative elections. However, the Jordanian democratic honeymoon was short lived. The massive popular show of support the Islamists received in the elections, the 1991 Gulf war provoked by Saddam Hussein's invasion of Kuwait in August 1990, and the Madrid Peace Conference in late 1991 were among some of the factors that dissuaded the king from pursuing the democratic reform path. Yet, the most important impediment to democratisation has been the peace treaty with Israel.

The people of Jordan, just like the majority of Arabs and Muslims, do not recognise the legitimacy of Israel's occupation of Palestine. Israel's very existence on a land that was usurped by force continued to be regarded as an aggression against the entire Ummah. Generation after generation, Arabs, foremost among them the Jordanians - who until recent years did not see Palestine and Jordan as separate entities - aspired to see Palestine liberated and the Zionist project aborted. Jordanian children like their fathers before them, grew up learning by heart details of what happened to Palestine and its people, several millions of whom ended up living in Jordan permanently either as refugees or as Jordanian citizens. Invariably, Jordanians have strong reasons for rejecting Israel; for some people these are nationalistic, for others they are religious and for a great many they are personal.

Public sentiment

Yet, the Jordanian public sentiment was for much of the history of the Zionist occupation of Palestine at odds with that of the ruling elite in Jordan. Since King Abdullah the First, the founding monarch, the Hashemite rulers of Jordan have maintained clandestine contacts with the Israelis. They probably would have recognised Israel much earlier had circumstances permitted them. Nevertheless, their political discourse, at least until the Madrid peace conference, remained within the bounds of Arab consensus, paying lip service to the public sentiment.

There was even a time when Jordan was home for the PLO resistance factions and other times when King Hussein competed with Yassir Arafat over who legitimately represented the people of the West Bank who were, until the mid-1980s, still considered Jordanian citizens.

Therefore, it was to be expected that political liberalisation in Jordan would not assist in the conclusion of any peace deal that might recognise Israel's right to exist. It even became clear that any fair legislative election, as part of such a process of liberalisation, was going to produce a parliament with a sizable Islamic representation and most likely a majority that would be opposed to any move towards Israel in contradiction with the people's wishes. A free and powerful parliament in Jordan would never authorise the executive to sign a peace deal with Israel.

It is no wonder then that after the Madrid conference and less than two years away from the next parliamentary elections the Jordanian authorities embarked on changing the election law.

The aim was to restrict the ability of the Islamists in particular, but more generally any candidates who were not to the liking of the intelligence services, to gain votes in sufficient numbers to guarantee a seat in parliament. The measure soon paid dividend. The legislative elections of November 1993 resulted in reducing, substantially, the parliamentary share of the Islamists and other political trends allied with them. The king had his parliament of choice, one that would bless whatever it is asked to endorse.

A mirage

What was hailed as a genuine transition to democracy in the autumn of 1989 soon proved to be a mirage. Throughout the initial stages of political liberalisation, and despite some tangible improvements in the record of human rights and civil liberties, the king made sure he relinquished very little of his powers to the elected parliament. And as soon as the post-Madrid Washington talks started, Jordan saw a rapid reversal of many of the positive steps taken earlier. The intelligence services gradually regained many of the powers they had lost during the initial period and this led to heavy restrictions on freedoms of expression, of assembly and of movement.

The regime was not content with just changing the election law, opposition groups, some of whom chose to boycott subsequent elections, claimed that those elections were rigged, or somehow interfered with, in order to produce rubber stamp parliaments.
@Horus @Oscar @AUz @al-Hasani @fatman17 @BLACKEAGLE @Arabian Legend @Yzd Khalifa @Mosamania @RazPaK @Jf Thunder @Munir @Bratava
Why peace with Israel was bad for Jordan - Al Jazeera English


yes. peace is bad for every country

Jordan should be carbon copy of Gaza. NOT!
 
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View attachment 138364

Jordanians have strong reasons for rejecting Israel - for some, these are nationalistic, for others, they are religious.


Five and a half years before Jordan signed its peace treaty with Israel at Wadi Araba in October 1994, the country saw the eruption of its first major revolution since its creation by the British in 1921. Dire economic conditions and a series of draconian measures adopted by the pro-Syria government of Zaid al-Rifai to restrict political activities and curtail civil liberties, sparked what became known as the April (1989) uprising of the South.

In anticipation of the need to adopt a severe austerity programme and in a bid to appease disgruntled masses, the late King Hussein launched a process of political liberalisation that included new legislative elections. However, the Jordanian democratic honeymoon was short lived. The massive popular show of support the Islamists received in the elections, the 1991 Gulf war provoked by Saddam Hussein's invasion of Kuwait in August 1990, and the Madrid Peace Conference in late 1991 were among some of the factors that dissuaded the king from pursuing the democratic reform path. Yet, the most important impediment to democratisation has been the peace treaty with Israel.

The people of Jordan, just like the majority of Arabs and Muslims, do not recognise the legitimacy of Israel's occupation of Palestine. Israel's very existence on a land that was usurped by force continued to be regarded as an aggression against the entire Ummah. Generation after generation, Arabs, foremost among them the Jordanians - who until recent years did not see Palestine and Jordan as separate entities - aspired to see Palestine liberated and the Zionist project aborted. Jordanian children like their fathers before them, grew up learning by heart details of what happened to Palestine and its people, several millions of whom ended up living in Jordan permanently either as refugees or as Jordanian citizens. Invariably, Jordanians have strong reasons for rejecting Israel; for some people these are nationalistic, for others they are religious and for a great many they are personal.

Public sentiment

Yet, the Jordanian public sentiment was for much of the history of the Zionist occupation of Palestine at odds with that of the ruling elite in Jordan. Since King Abdullah the First, the founding monarch, the Hashemite rulers of Jordan have maintained clandestine contacts with the Israelis. They probably would have recognised Israel much earlier had circumstances permitted them. Nevertheless, their political discourse, at least until the Madrid peace conference, remained within the bounds of Arab consensus, paying lip service to the public sentiment.

There was even a time when Jordan was home for the PLO resistance factions and other times when King Hussein competed with Yassir Arafat over who legitimately represented the people of the West Bank who were, until the mid-1980s, still considered Jordanian citizens.

Therefore, it was to be expected that political liberalisation in Jordan would not assist in the conclusion of any peace deal that might recognise Israel's right to exist. It even became clear that any fair legislative election, as part of such a process of liberalisation, was going to produce a parliament with a sizable Islamic representation and most likely a majority that would be opposed to any move towards Israel in contradiction with the people's wishes. A free and powerful parliament in Jordan would never authorise the executive to sign a peace deal with Israel.

It is no wonder then that after the Madrid conference and less than two years away from the next parliamentary elections the Jordanian authorities embarked on changing the election law.

The aim was to restrict the ability of the Islamists in particular, but more generally any candidates who were not to the liking of the intelligence services, to gain votes in sufficient numbers to guarantee a seat in parliament. The measure soon paid dividend. The legislative elections of November 1993 resulted in reducing, substantially, the parliamentary share of the Islamists and other political trends allied with them. The king had his parliament of choice, one that would bless whatever it is asked to endorse.

A mirage

What was hailed as a genuine transition to democracy in the autumn of 1989 soon proved to be a mirage. Throughout the initial stages of political liberalisation, and despite some tangible improvements in the record of human rights and civil liberties, the king made sure he relinquished very little of his powers to the elected parliament. And as soon as the post-Madrid Washington talks started, Jordan saw a rapid reversal of many of the positive steps taken earlier. The intelligence services gradually regained many of the powers they had lost during the initial period and this led to heavy restrictions on freedoms of expression, of assembly and of movement.

The regime was not content with just changing the election law, opposition groups, some of whom chose to boycott subsequent elections, claimed that those elections were rigged, or somehow interfered with, in order to produce rubber stamp parliaments.
@Horus @Oscar @AUz @al-Hasani @fatman17 @BLACKEAGLE @Arabian Legend @Yzd Khalifa @Mosamania @RazPaK @Jf Thunder @Munir @Bratava
Why peace with Israel was bad for Jordan - Al Jazeera English

What a biased article piece.


Let me provide some more objective information. ;)

How has Jordan Benefited?

This progress was initially incentivized by Washington via the establishment of Qualifying Industrial Zones. Created by Congress in 1996, these QIZs allow goods produced in Jordan to enter Israel duty-free as long as they have a certain percentage of Israeli content or value added. Between 1996 and 2010, when the U.S.-Jordanian Free Trade Agreement went into effect, thirteen QIZs were established, providing tens of thousands of Jordanians with employment. As early as 2002, QIZ products were accounting for 90 percent of Jordanian exports to the United States.

Another relatively bright spot has been tourism. Last year, 218,000 Israelis reportedly visited Jordan, while just over 18,000 Jordanians traveled to Israel. To accommodate the tourists, twenty-four weekly flights link Ben Gurion, Sde Dov, and Queen Alia Airports.

Once the treaty was signed, it opened the floodgates of U.S. economic and military assistance to Jordan. In 1993, Washington provided Amman with just $35 million in economic support; the 2014 figure is $700 million. Similarly, Jordan received just $9 million in U.S. Foreign Military Financing in 1993, compared to $300 million this year. Some of the bigger-ticket defense articles Washington has provided over the years include fifty-eight F-16s and a state-of-the-art counterterrorism facility -- the King Abdullah Special Operations Training Center (KASOTC) -- constructed by the Army Corps of Engineers in 2006-2007.

As U.S. financing increased, so did joint training and intelligence sharing. On the military front, the Eager Lion multilateral exercises became an annual affair. And according to one former CIA official quoted in 2005 by the Los Angeles Times, the intelligence partnership became so close that the agency had technical personnel "virtually embedded" at Jordan's General Intelligence Directorate headquarters.

Yet an even more important byproduct for Jordan has been its free-trade agreement with the United States, which has had a significant impact on the kingdom's historically feeble economy since 2010. Last year, U.S.-Jordanian trade reached $3.3 billion, a nearly tenfold increase from 1994; it jumped by over 30 percent between 2009 and 2013 alone.


Reference:
Twenty Years of Israeli-Jordanian Peace: A Brief Assessment - The Washington Institute for Near East Policy
 
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That's Al Jazeera for you. I assume the powers that be in Qatar have decided to add Jordan to their list of enemies.

These extremists groups would rather have the instability in the region so they can impact the societies. Unfortunately for them, they see that Jordan is capable of making independent policies that will benefit Jordan as a whole. Jordan has seen what has happened in Iraq, in Lebanon, in Syria, and to some extents, even in the borders of Turkey, as well as what is going on in Yemen and Oman.

What I admire about Jordan is that not only do they maintain the importance of Hashemite principles as the founding King had emphasized, but Jordan has shown an adaptive foreign policy. Aside from my deep respect for Jordan's balancing of interests, I also am proud of their ability to house not only palestinian refugees, but even the some 300,000 refugees from Iraq and Syria.

In the past, many Arab states would refer to Jordan as a "Shrimp among whales", but now, Alhamdulillah, they see that Jordan, because of its mature foreign policy, enhanced trade agreements, is a 'Diamond in the Ruff'.

May God Bless Jordan, Jordan's King, and the Jordanian People.
 
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These extremists groups would rather have the instability in the region so they can impact the societies. Unfortunately for them, they see that Jordan is capable of making independent policies that will benefit Jordan as a whole. Jordan has seen what has happened in Iraq, in Lebanon, in Syria, and to some extents, even in the borders of Turkey, as well as what is going on in Yemen and Oman.

What I admire about Jordan is that not only do they maintain the importance of Hashemite principles as the founding King had emphasized, but Jordan has shown an adaptive foreign policy. Aside from my deep respect for Jordan's balancing of interests, I also am proud of their ability to house not only palestinian refugees, but even the some 300,000 refugees from Iraq and Syria.

In the past, many Arab states would refer to Jordan as a "Shrimp among whales", but now, Alhamdulillah, they see that Jordan, because of its mature foreign policy, enhanced trade agreements, is a 'Diamond in the Ruff'.

May God Bless Jordan, Jordan's King, and the Jordanian People.
Thank you for your kind words:)
 
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What a shame for the arabs what the jordanians are doing, their brothers are beeing massacred in Cisjordania and they do nothing, but they're very good at barking against the SAA and be fully conquered like a mini US army
@BLACKEAGLE
 
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Jordan hasn't benefitted palestine issue is still there our brother and sisters are being killed on daily bases Jeruslam and Holy Places being voilated this joker kind off peace accord will now end soon and eventually war will be the only option
 
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All of you guys are sell outs and ashamed to be Muslim.

Peace treaty with baby killers, huh?

One day all of your houses will burn too.
 
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All of you guys are sell outs and ashamed to be Muslim.

Peace treaty with baby killers, huh?

One day all of your houses will burn too.

Parsing peace will make people house burn?
 
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Parsing peace will make people house burn?

Peace at the expense of children's blood?

There will be peace too, once all minority sects are finished off in Pakistan.

Let's go ahead praise that as well.

But I am not like these guys. What is wrong is wrong. I would never shake hands with a murderer.
 
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