Why most of muslims afraid of discussing their religion? ?

[My-Analogous]

Thanks.
Im just giving you an option to choose one pic which is more peaceful and seems good for human life.
First pic or second pic?
First pic
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Second pic
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Read the quote on both pics and choose one which pic according to you peaceful and nice.
Answer me only in just "first pic" or second pic" .

Brother feel free to ask more questions.

 

[Armchair]

Note:- this is not a religious thread.

I just want to ask a legal question.

I have never found a Hindu , Christian or jew who afraid of discussing their faith.

I discussed with many of them as i was researching on religions.

Yes... many of them don't have actual knowledge of their own faith but they got never offended but discussed whatever they knew.

But once i was trying to research on Islam and i went to mosques , met many mullahs and scholars. Some of them refused to discuss and told me to read the Quran first. I told them i have already read Quran three time very deeply. Thats why im here bcz it raised many questions in my minds. So i want to discuss it .

They had given me time but never met again on that time.
Then i tried online but onliner muslims gets offended easily and started abusing and run away from discussion.

The best example of my legal question is here on PDF.
PDF itself has banned discussing Islam.
So why Muslims afraid of discussing their faith??
Does muslims afraid of criticism of their religion or fear of Allah raising questions ??
Any idea....?

Hi, you can discuss your religious questions about Islam with me. Just send me a message on PDF or give me your email. I'm happy to try to answer your questions, in'sha'Allah (which means God Willing)

Most real Muslims are always looking for an opportunity to answer questions about their religion. Problem with forums like PDF and Pakdef has always been that there are a lot of secular, weak-faithed people in key positions. This is because of the colonial legacy and the Macauley plan (google Minute on Indian Education 1835).

Given that these military forums are influenced by the Pakistan Army (or Indian Army or Bangladesh Army), and were former forced secular slave-armies of the British, they don't want to discuss religion. Because that is what the British taught them.

 

[Jlaw]

Not just Muslim but also cow worshippers, and low IQ Trump supporters don't like discussing characters from a fictional epic book

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

I will go to second one because that is near to Islam. In Islam Humanity is stand first.
"O you who believe! Stand out firmly for God, as witness to fair dealings and do not let the hatred of a people lead you to treat them unjustly. Deal with them justly; it is closer to piety." (Quran 5:8)
In time of war, respect for the dignity of human beings leads Islam to put an end to fighting as soon as the enemy declare peace: "...therefore if they withdraw from you but do not fight you, and (instead) send you (guarantees) of peace, then God has opened no way for you (to wage war against them)." (Quran 4:90)
Even to engage in arguments with Non-Muslims in a disrespectful manner is prohibited, as the Quran states: “And argue not with the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), unless it be in (a way) that is better (with good words and in good manner), except with such of them as do wrong, and say (to them): “We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you; our God and your God is One, and to Him we have submitted”(29:46)

Sir, you are manipulating the Quranic ideology. The second pic is not Islamic ideology for sure. First one is.. ask any islamic scholar.
5:8 verse is not same as second pic Quote.
Both are very different.

Let me tell you about verses like no. 5:8 or 5:32
These verses are copied from Talmud.
Let me tell you why these verses creates contrast between other verses.

Let me give you an example.
Do you know what is this?

Can you see the beautiful cover and packing? ?
Will you trust me if i tell you there is a bomb inside this beautiful package? ?

 

[fitpOsitive]

The people who are abusing you are not actually in the mode to answer you, they will not.
For you, if you are asking any question, please ask it for the sake of knowledge. If you want to attack Islam, go ahead, and face the people, who also are not in mode for some positive discussion.

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

Not just Muslim but also cow worshippers, and low IQ Trump supporters don't like discussing characters from a fictional epic book

Not really. I have discussed with Cow worshipers and Trump supporters too. They were really interested in discussing.
Their reasons were funny and stupid but they were harmless.
I really liked them.

 

[Jlaw]

Not really. I have discussed with Cow worshipers and Trump supporters too. They were really interested in discussing.
Their reasons were funny and stupid but they were harmless.
I really liked them.

Until you mention a certain main character in the Trump supporters religion is fictional and you have proof. Than they will pull out their guns and threaten you.

 

[Hamza913]

Note:- this is not a religious thread.

I just want to ask a legal question.

I have never found a Hindu , Christian or jew who afraid of discussing their faith.

I discussed with many of them as i was researching on religions.

Yes... many of them don't have actual knowledge of their own faith but they got never offended but discussed whatever they knew.

But once i was trying to research on Islam and i went to mosques , met many mullahs and scholars. Some of them refused to discuss and told me to read the Quran first. I told them i have already read Quran three time very deeply. Thats why im here bcz it raised many questions in my minds. So i want to discuss it .

They had given me time but never met again on that time.
Then i tried online but onliner muslims gets offended easily and started abusing and run away from discussion.

The best example of my legal question is here on PDF.
PDF itself has banned discussing Islam.
So why Muslims afraid of discussing their faith??
Does muslims afraid of criticism of their religion or fear of Allah raising questions ??
Any idea....?

Because the discussion is almost never respectful, and the questions are often dumb and/or have been answered before.

We aren't parrots and we aren't doormats.

If you have any new questions, ask me here or on my profile.

Better yet, go on a forum dedicated to this kind of stuff like IslamicBoards.

 

[My-Analogous]

Sir, you are manipulating the Quranic ideology. The second pic is not Islamic ideology for sure. First one is.. ask any islamic scholar.
5:8 verse is not same as second pic Quote.
Both are very different.

Let me tell you about verses like no. 5:8 or 5:32
These verses are copied from Talmud.
Let me tell you why these verses creates contrast between other verses.

Let me give you an example.
Do you know what is this?View attachment 481915

Can you see the beautiful cover and packing? ?
Will you trust me if i tell you there is a bomb inside this beautiful package? ?

I give reference of Quran and it is up to you what you belief. Regarding your claim that it is come from Talmud then for that we also believed that it was book of Allah but people made many changes in it and that is why Toreh become Zaboor in David time. What currently jews are claiming is actually is Zaboor but they called it Tulmud and it i also corrupted. After that Bible come because of so many corruption in Tulmud and you can find many things similarly between bible and Tulmud too because its source is same so your claim didn't surprise me even i didn't read tulmud before but yes i read few chapters of bible to know more dynamic views.

Now the point is do you believe on those points which verify by two religions? or just playing games and manipulated things?

 

[Hamza913]

Can anyone anwer the question without name calling and abusing?

Just spit it out already and stop beating around the bush.

I dont trust on these youtube videos. They all are same like Dr. Zakir Naik , he used to ran a scripted show. These people put only only selected questions.

Well then why the hell should we answer your questions if you don't trust us? Seems like a waste of time don't you think?

They dont discuss much with non muslims scholars.

Is that a joke?

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

read my post with Quran references and he is following islamic teaching. Regarding your second picture can you please tell me who belief in One God

Do any other religion have something similar to that?

Hinduism believe in one God which is thousands years older than Islam.
Don't talk about their deities. They are many

 

[Hamza913]

Thanks.
Im just giving you an option to choose one pic which is more peaceful and seems good for human life.
First pic or second pic?
First pic
View attachment 481905

Second pic
View attachment 481906

Read the quote on both pics and choose one which pic according to you peaceful and nice.
Answer me only in just "first pic" or second pic" .

That's not a question, that's you trying to bait us so you can win an argument.

Also, they both look stupid.

Ok. Thanks.
I was hoping a positive answer from you.

Quran itself says " jews and Christians are on wrong path". When following the same .

When two are wrong, i doesn't make you right if you are following the same.

Sir, you itself proved that Islamic ideology is not so good to follow for humanity when you selected second pic.
You proved sir that there are some other ideology too existed in the world which are better than Islamic ideology.
Yes, you selected the second pic ignoring the Islamic ideology.
I still has hope from this world.

We don't follow the same path, otherwise they wouldn't be considered wrong in our eyes.

???

Where the hell does that 2nd part come in? You're clutching at straws here.

Sir, you are manipulating the Quranic ideology. The second pic is not Islamic ideology for sure. First one is.. ask any islamic scholar.
5:8 verse is not same as second pic Quote.
Both are very different.

Let me tell you about verses like no. 5:8 or 5:32
These verses are copied from Talmud.
Let me tell you why these verses creates contrast between other verses.

Let me give you an example.
Do you know what is this?View attachment 481915

Can you see the beautiful cover and packing? ?
Will you trust me if i tell you there is a bomb inside this beautiful package? ?

Idiot, YOU are manipulating Quranic ideology.

Both pics are not Muslims, and even if any of them were, it makes no difference. What the heck do those pictures show reveal about ANY religion? They just show how these two people are very different in how they preach, with one being more harsh and the other being more gentle.

No, those verses are not "copied" from the Talmud, the concept of "taking one life is as if you've killed all of mankind" has been around for a long time, the Quran just used it to beautifully explain how big of a sin it is to kill an innocent person.

Also, Jews were a major community in Arabia. Obviously the Quran would use phrases already similar to their own, it helps make it easier for them to embrace the religion since it makes it feel less alien to them, and more familiar.

Oh and we also believe that Allah (The Most Gracious and The Most Merciful) sent down scripture to previous people, including the Christians and the Jews. Anything the Quran has that the Jews/Christians used to have can simply be declared as part of that scripture before it was corrupted by later transgressors.

Hinduism believe in one God which is thousands years older than Islam.

As per Islam, all people were given a scripture akin to Islam, but they corrupted it over time. We believe the very first people were monotheists.

Therefore, by saying stuff such as this, you only prove our claims. Checkmate.

 

[Jaanbaz]

What this guy means by discussion is that why can't they swear at Prophet Muhammad(saw) in public. Usually these Indians make up a large crowd on anti-Islamic websites which use the most disgusting language against all Muslims and Prophet Mohammad(saw), they even go as far to say every single Muslims should be killed.

 

[Hamza913]

What this guy means by discussion is that why can't they swear at Prophet Muhammad(saw) in public. Usually these Indians make up a large crowd on anti-Islamic websites which use the most disgusting language against all Muslims and Prophet Mohammad(saw), they even go as far to say every single Muslims should be killed.

These people are muppets like most other religious communities who criticise us, the only non-Muslims with any good polemics are atheists and even then they say pretty stupid things.

Jews are also very nice to have theological discussions with since they are by far the most respectful and the least hypocritical, even Zionists aren't that bad (they just have a dirty political ideology). But again, I don't feel as if their polemics against us are that strong.

 

[My-Analogous]

Hinduism believe in one God which is thousands years older than Islam.
Don't talk about their deities. They are many

Which God? and what is Hinduism? define Hinduism or i can say (Group of religion of many believes combine and named Hinduism divert from Indus or Indu Nadi) There is no religion called Hinduism 1000 years before please prove your claim with reference. I only know Vedic religion or Sanātana dharma. Where is Hinduism even 400 years back?. Plus which God you are referring as one God and Only God please give me reference as i did earlier)