Why MOSSAD has never tried to assassinate Hafiz Saeed and Hammad Lakhvi !!!

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WikiLeaks: Pakistan spy chief shared intelligence with Israel post 26/11

Pakistan and Israel have no diplomatic ties but a year after 26/11 Islamabad shared intelligence information with Israel regarding possible terrorist attacks against Jewish and Israeli sites in India, according to a leaked US diplomatic cable.

WikiLeaks: Pakistan spy chief shared intelligence with Israel post 26/11

Pakistan and Israel have no diplomatic ties but a year after 26/11 Islamabad shared intelligence information with Israel regarding possible terrorist attacks against Jewish and Israeli sites in India, according to a leaked US diplomatic cable.

www.hindustantimes.com

happened during soviet afghan war too!

 

[Neurath]

We certainly do have experience with militancy and terrorism, so does Israel, they're by no means behind us in this. The thing is that the Geography doesn't allow for any direct action for both countries. Israel can't come here, they will fund India and work with them. What can Pakistan do? The same. Fund PLA and Hamas, and work and train with them.

Whatever the case, it is highly unlikely that Israel and Pakistan would ever be on a confrontationist course. At least not until our borders meet.

 

[Svartr Warg]

That's the difference between them and true Muslims. For a true Muslim only considers one thing, Imaan in Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah. Arrogance, complacency, over or underestimation is not in the character of a true Muslim.

The I.S.I or Pakistan Military or Pakistan itself does not underestimate any enemy. Rather, to study the enemy, analyze it and reserve the appropriate response with deliberation.

You're talking about ideal situations here that the Pakistani military and agencies only care about Islam. Pakistan also has to live in this world and deal with its problems as well, Afghanistan wasn't purely for Islam, South Waziristan and Swat wasn't purely for Islam, you have to see what is being done wrong and then act against it, and the military knows it well. Collaborating with Mossad would be beneficial for ISI as it would be for the former, there's no need to create unnecessary enemies.

 

[Sayfullah]

They already seem pretty paranoid of ISI.
Also remember they say Taliban in Afghanistan only won because of help from ISI.
Now imagine if the same ISI who destroyed soviets through mujahideen and that made Afghanistan a hell for USA, starts heavily supporting Palestinian groups and send mujahideen with advanced weapons to fight Israel.

Remember one the reasons CIA assassinated Zia ul Haq was because he wanted to use the mujahideen in Afghanistan to first defeat soviets then defeat india in Kashmir then free Palestine.

They get paranoid just hearing Pakistan saying it’s supports Palestinian groups.

Also one shaheen 3 with a nuke is enough to wipe israel off the face of the earth if it ever comes down to war between the two

 

[Nasr]

Since when recognizing Israel means declaring a war against Allah?

Since the time you forgot to pick up the Holy Qur'an and read it.

The only reason it isn't getting recognized is because of Palestine, which is a justified cause.

And that remark right there, has vindicated my first response. Go read the Holy Qur'an, there is a world of knowledge you lack on the subject.

The day Israel recognizes Palestine as an independent state and vacate occupied territories,

Bro please, I urge you to study the subject first, before posting your views. Because at this rate, you don't have a leg to stand on.

The zionist state of israel has periodically and systematically usurped Palestinian lands over the last 72 years. Today, as we speak, israel has comprehensively colonized large swathes of the West Bank and cornered Palestinians behind reinforced concrete walls. Today america has moved it's embassy to Jerusalem, when since 1948 the capital of the zionist state has been Tel Aviv.

Anyone who thinks that israel would ever concede land back to the Palestinians, vacate the entire West Bank, give up it's quest to make Jerusalem it's capital and allow Palestine to exist as an independent state with its own borders, military, police, airports and seaports. Then I would recommend you go see a therapist.

Pakistan should consider building a relation with them, if not very friendly then certainly not as enemies as well. Both counties can help each other in many things, especially in defence and intelligence, it would also balance out the relations Israel has with India.

That is a very naive and gullible thinking. I bet israel would dearly love to have more Pakistanis thinking like you are. Because that's what they're counting on.

If you haven't learnt a thing yet, then try applying your God given intelligence to extrapolate what's the single most deadliest threat to israel from Pakistan and why?

If you can answer that, I would engage with you further. Otherwise, dear brother, you have a lot of studying to do on the subject.

 

[Svartr Warg]

Whatever the case, it is highly unlikely that Israel and Pakistan would ever be on a confrontationist course. At least not until our borders meet.

Exactly my point.

 

[Big Tank]

These two individuals have nothing to do with Israel, never hurted Israel and never mentioned Israel on their hitlist.

Also, Mossad isn't fool to waste it's money, resource and manpower to assasinate these two which won't ever benefit them. Also, they won't take risk of getting their manpower exposed, just for this.

They had greater goals against us. They hired a court martialed PAF pilot to bomb Kahuta. The whole operation was caught by Major R Amir Khan.

The second time was when they tried to bomb Kahuta in a joint op with IAF.

Once we tested our nukes, they had nothing to do in Pakistan.
Also, these two individuals have failed to get our objectives achieved despite wasting a lot of money on them. They're not useful anyway.

 

[Khan vilatey]

With what ?

F-16s and mirages on a one way trip. If possible they would try to land in Iraq or Syria after the raid

k

 

[Svartr Warg]

My man you need to relax here, no one said that Israel will recognize Palestine, I just said "if" a day like that ever comes then Pakistan should not hold its grudges as well. As for my gullible thinking, I didn't say that we need to replace China with Israel, we just need a military based relation with them, we're not going to give them bases here which they would use against us. Collaborations happen everywhere in the world and are often fruitful.
I don't really know what do you consider a single most deadliest threat to Israel from Pakistan but I have a feeling that you might be referring to something religious.

Since the time you forgot to pick up the Holy Qur'an and read it.



And that remark right there, has vindicated my first response. Go read the Holy Qur'an, there is a world of knowledge you lack on the subject.



Bro please, I urge you to study the subject first, before posting your views. Because at this rate, you don't have a leg to stand on.

The zionist state of israel has periodically and systematically usurped Palestinian lands over the last 72 years. Today, as we speak, israel has comprehensively colonized large swathes of the West Bank and cornered Palestinians behind reinforced concrete walls. Today america has moved it's embassy to Jerusalem, when since 1948 the capital of the zionist state has been Tel Aviv.

Anyone who thinks that israel would ever concede land back to the Palestinians, vacate the entire West Bank, give up it's quest to make Jerusalem it's capital and allow Palestine to exist as an independent state with its own borders, military, police, airports and seaports. Then I would recommend you go see a therapist.



That is a very naive and gullible thinking. I bet israel would dearly love to have more Pakistanis thinking like you are. Because that's what they're counting on.

If you haven't learnt a thing yet, then try applying your God given intelligence to extrapolate what's the single most deadliest threat to israel from Pakistan and why?

If you can answer that, I would engage with you further. Otherwise, dear brother, you have a lot of studying to do on the subject.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Whatever the case, it is highly unlikely that Israel and Pakistan would ever be on a confrontationist course. At least not until our borders meet.

Its set to happen once they touch yasrab(Medina), i dont think Paksitanis would tolerate that..They will be an expansionist state, from nile to euphrates, .

 

[Nasr]

You're talking about ideal situations here that the Pakistani military and agencies only care about Islam.

My dear friend, what ideal situation are you even talking about? Pakistan is because you and I are Muslim. Don't believe me, then go to your dearly beloved google and type in the largest populated Muslim countries in the world and you'll find out why.

Ideal situation? Bro, Pakistan was created to be a state for the MUSLIMS of the former british colony. What part of this equation is ideal for ya? Tell me?

Pakistan also has to live in this world and deal with its problems as well,

Tell me, what happened when america found out that Pakistan was developing its own nuclear program? Didn't america impose crippling sanctions? Didn't america cut off deliveries of PAID FOR F-16s to Pakistan?

So tell me, if your state was created on the basis of Islam and you have been proclaiming to be Muslim. What would happen when Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah sees Pakistan recognize israel, when the Holy Qur'an has declared that Allah banished the Jews from the Holy Land. What consequences await those Muslim States that have recognized this unholy israel, makes american sanctions look like kindergarten play.

Afghanistan wasn't purely for Islam, South Waziristan and Swat wasn't purely for Islam

So Afghan Pukhtuns have been fighting the americans for the last 20 years for the sheer fun of it, right?

you have to see what is being done wrong and then act against it, and the military knows it well. Collaborating with Mossad would be beneficial for ISI as it would be for the former, there's no need to create unnecessary enemies.

Again, dear brother, I urge you to study the subject and more importantly read the Holy Qur'an.

 

[fitpOsitive]

I have read some good books on MOSSAD. Also as I am huge defence buff and love to study geo political issues and military strategies and polices. One question which has bugged me for past one year is that we know is that how ruthless Israelis are when it comes to protecting their people and going after those who try to harm them. Israel literally hunts down any one who they feel is a threat to their people. Recent assassination of Iranian scientist is living proof of that.

So in Mumbai attack of 2008, among all the victims four were Israelis. The attack was blamed by India on Hafiz Saeed and Hammad Lakhvi along with few others. We may not agree with it but that is what India believes and also I think so does Israel and USA. And in that attack four victims were Israelis. So I wonder How is it that MOSSAD didn't tried to kill Hafiz Saeed or Hammad Lakhvi to get their revenge ? Or may be they tried but failed, and even were caught, and we may have not announced it. Because there is no way Israel would forget its four citizens getting killed like that. So I wonder what is stopping them from trying to go after Hafiz Saeed and Hammad Lakhvi.

Note : No I don't want bloodshed in Pakistan or seeing these two guys getting attacked. Just curious because it doesn't look like Mossad or Israel to not come after these two guys.

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I have a hypothesis about it.
Earlier in 2011, mehran base got attacked. Many Pakistani air crafts destroyed. Target was specially Pakistan navy aireal capabilities.
Later that years, Mumbai attack took place.
Whole of the Israeli cell conducted these attacks in Pakistan got wiped out.

We once again delivered a message to Israel: you assassinate Arabs and Persians and they don't retaliate, their matter. But if you poked your nose in our affairs, be ready to get retaliation. Ham woh bandy hi mardaingy Jo control kerrahy hongy.

 

[Nasr]

My man you need to relax here, no one said that Israel will recognize Palestine, I just said "if" a day like that ever comes then Pakistan should not hold its grudges as well.

For starters, I am very relaxed, thank you for your suggestion. Also, there is no "if" when it comes to israel. Mark my words, israel will usurp all of West Bank, Gaza and take all of Jerusalem. israel will also demolish Masjid Al-Aqsa to build their Temple Mount. Regardless however you wanna play around with this equation, there ain't no probability. And even if it were, the creation of a state of israel by Jews is illegal, as it is clearly stated in the Qur'an as they were banished from the Holy Land for their wickedness, which was murders of Prophets of God, practicing Usury, changing the word of God in the Torah and plotting and executing plans to crucify Jesus the Messiah, son of the blessed Virgin Mary.

So no matter how you twist, turn or swing around with words or probability, the answer from Pakistan to israel is, NO WE WILL NOT EVER RECOGNIZE YOU.

As for my gullible thinking, I didn't say that we need to replace China with Israel, we just need a military based relation with them, we're not going to give them bases here which they would use against us.

Dear brother, israel is state that has come to existence based on lies, usurping other state's power, murdering and slaughtering Palestinian people, distorting history and playing with world powers as if they were it's pets. So you think that israel would have cordial relations with you, you got another thing coming.

Collaborations happen everywhere in the world and are often fruitful. I don't really know what do you consider a single most deadliest threat to Israel from Pakistan but I have a feeling that you might be referring to something religious.

Tell me this .... if gangsters came into your home, murdered your family members and stole stuff .... and you were well trained on using handguns, and you had the most powerful set of handguns in your house. What would you do?

 

[Svartr Warg]

My dear friend, what ideal situation are you even talking about? Pakistan is because you and I are Muslim. Don't believe me, then go to your dearly beloved google and type in the largest populated Muslim countries in the world and you'll find out why.

Ideal situation? Bro, Pakistan was created to be a state for the MUSLIMS of the former british colony. What part of this equation is ideal for ya? Tell me?



Tell me, what happened when america found out that Pakistan was developing its own nuclear program? Didn't america impose crippling sanctions? Didn't america cut off deliveries of PAID FOR F-16s to Pakistan?

So tell me, if your state was created on the basis of Islam and you have been proclaiming to be Muslim. What would happen when Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah sees Pakistan recognize israel, when the Holy Qur'an has declared that Allah banished the Jews from the Holy Land. What consequences await those Muslim States that have recognized this unholy israel, makes american sanctions look like kindergarten play.



So Afghan Pukhtuns have been fighting the americans for the last 20 years for the sheer fun of it, right?



Again, dear brother, I urge you to study the subject and more importantly read the Holy Qur'an.

Did I say that Pakistan wasn't crested for Islam or for Muslims? Of course, it was created for Muslims and would always work to safeguard the interests of Muslims. That doesn't mean that every other person who is not a follower of Islam is our sworn enemy? And I mean an enemy of Pakistan as a country not of Islam as a whole.
America had reservations about our Nuclear program and so did Israel, because whether we like it or not these countries are suffering from Islamophobia since quite a long time and wouldn't want any Muslim country to attain nuclear or other powers. But that has settled now, we have the nukes and both of those countries have made their peace with that.
Afghanis fought for their religion as much as for their own independence, my concern wasn't with Afghanis but with Pakistan and the part it played there.
I don't really want to argument with you on religious grounds, I just want to see our agencies collaborate with their agencies strictly on "worldly matters". They don't have to change their religion while doing so. America is a staunch supporter of Israel and ISI and CIA have collaborated on numerous occasions, is that haram too?

 

[Svartr Warg]

Okay. What is your stance on general Israeli population and jews in general? Where do you think they should go and live if all of Israel and Palestine is handed over to Hamas and they employ a "no jew" policy. I believe in two state theory, live and let live, Israel should stop with its bullshit and change its occupier mindset and be content with what it has and Palestinians should also decide on an area whether it includes West bank, Gaza or other places, no party should try to completey annihilate the other. There needs to be a mutual settlement on Jerusalem, without this nothing of value will come off this decades old fighting.
The answer to your last question is I WILL SHOOT THEM. But how is that relevant? Has Israel come into Pakistan? And don't tell me you consider our nuclear weapons most dangerous threat to Israel.

For starters, I am very relaxed, thank you for your suggestion. Also, there is no "if" when it comes to israel. Mark my words, israel will usurp all of West Bank, Gaza and take all of Jerusalem. israel will also demolish Masjid Al-Aqsa to build their Temple Mount. Regardless however you wanna play around with this equation, there ain't no probability. And even if it were, the creation of a state of israel by Jews is illegal, as it is clearly stated in the Qur'an as they were banished from the Holy Land for their wickedness, which was murders of Prophets of God, practicing Usury, changing the word of God in the Torah and plotting and executing plans to crucify Jesus the Messiah, son of the blessed Virgin Mary.

So no matter how you twist, turn or swing around with words or probability, the answer from Pakistan to israel is, NO WE WILL NOT EVER RECOGNIZE YOU.



Dear brother, israel is state that has come to existence based on lies, usurping other state's power, murdering and slaughtering Palestinian people, distorting history and playing with world powers as if they were it's pets. So you think that israel would have cordial relations with you, you got another thing coming.



Tell me this .... if gangsters came into your home, murdered your family members and stole stuff .... and you were well trained on using handguns, and you had the most powerful set of handguns in your house. What would you do?