Why is America turning Islamophobic?

[TheBlackCoat]

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

She's a great speaker but unfortunately she has a reputation of being the new Al Sharpton.
That is to say they are so fervent on pointing out injustice that they are too quick to run to some person who claims they were a victim of prejudice and doing interviews claiming complete outrage. Then when the facts are in that show nothing happened (and the victim even admits it) they yell "no..no..no..this all a police coverup". Never admitting in their overzealousness they completely jumped the gun without checking out the facts.

 

[Mugwop]

Chinese atheists should teach western atheists the real meaning of atheism.

 

[Gomig-21]

Well spoken lady. I can't count how many times this subject of unity and more involvement in the Muslim community has been the subject of salaat al Jumaa lectures. It connects with the betterment of oneself, as well.

 

[turbofan7a]

The question is why do muslims go to the west when they know its a different culture and mindset.

 

[TheBlackCoat]

The question is why do muslims go to the west when they know its a different culture and mindset.

Hypocrites and opportunists of the highest order.

They hate American values so much but still immigrate here.

They want to earn money in the US and fund organizations that are fighting America.

They want to unite in the name of Islam but would not assimilate and unite in the name of US which provides them all the opportunities.

 

[salimpheku]

Better question would have been 'Why Muslims Hate other Religion's So much?'

Problem is not others. Self introspection is needed. This kind of belligerent, self-pitying attitude when people are being killed by trucks, cars, knives, bombs & guns won't sit well with anyone.

If anything, I am amazed at the west's tolerance of this terrorism. Usually they go in exterminate and then talk. By those standards, they are very constrained, considering the quiet genocide terrorists are doing to them in their cities.
Heck man, these people killed Kids in a concert & here are preaching about Islamophobia!!

 

[Gomig-21]

They want to earn money in the US and fund organizations that are fighting America.

What?! Are you equating what she said to what you just said? Couldn't be further from the truth.

They want to unite in the name of Islam but would not assimilate and unite in the name of US which provides them all the opportunities.

What do you mean by "assimilate and unite in the name of US?" What would they have to do exactly to appease you in that regard? Take off her hijab? Go to a bar?

Heck man, these people killed Kids in a concert & here are preaching about Islamophobia!!

Yep, those are the same people in that room as those psychopaths in the UK. Come on, man.

 

[TheBlackCoat]

What?! Are you equating what she said to what you just said? Couldn't be further from the truth.



What do you mean by "assimilate and unite in the name of US?" What would they have to do exactly to appease you in that regard? Take off her hijab? Go to a bar?



Yep, those are the same people in that room as those psychopaths in the UK. Come on, man.

Is CAIR a Terror Group? CAIR co-founder Nihad Awad (Alex Wong/Getty) SHARE ARTICLE ON FACEBOOKSHARE TWEET ARTICLETWEET PLUS ONE ARTICLE ON GOOGLE PLUS+1 PRINT ARTICLE ADJUST FONT SIZEAA by DANIEL PIPES November 28, 2014 4:00 AM @DANIELPIPES A prominent Arab government thinks so. We who follow the Islamist movement fell off our collective chair on November 15, when the news came that the United Arab Emirates’ ministerial cabinet had listed the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) as one of 83 proscribed terrorist organizations, up there with the Taliban, al-Qaeda, and ISIS. This came as a surprise because the UAE authorities themselves have a record of promoting Islamism; because CAIR has a history of raising funds in the UAE; and because the UAE embassy in Washington had previously praised CAIR. On reflection, however, the listing makes sense for, in recent years, the Islamist movement has gravely fractured. Sunnis fight Shiites; advocates of violence struggle against those working within the system; modernizers do battle against those trying to return to the seventh century; and monarchists confront republicans. This last divide concerns us here. After decades of working closely with the Muslim Brotherhood (MB) and its related institutions, the Persian Gulf monarchies (with the single, striking exception of Qatar) have come to see the MB complex of institutions as a threat to their existence. The Saudi, Emirati, Kuwaiti, and Bahraini rulers now view politicians like Mohamed Morsi of Egypt as their enemies, as they do Hamas and its progeny — including CAIR. While the Gulf monarchs have not become any less Islamist, they have acquired a clear-eyed appreciation of the harm that MB-related groups can do. Having explained why the UAE listed CAIR on its terror manifest, we must ask a second question: Is the listing warranted? Can a Washington-based organization with ties to the Obama White House, the U.S. Congress, leading media outlets, and prestigious universities truly be an instigator of terrorism? CAIR can rightly be so characterized. True, it does not set off bombs, but, as the UAE’s foreign minister explains, “Our threshold is quite low. . . . We cannot accept incitement or funding.” Indeed, CAIR incites, funds, and does much more vis-à-vis terrorism: It apologizes for terrorist groups: Challenged repeatedly to denounce Hamas and Hezbollah as terrorist groups, CAIR denounces the acts of violence but not their sponsors. It is connected to Hamas: Hamas, designated a terrorist organization by the U.S. and many other governments, indirectly created CAIR and the two groups remain tight. Examples: In 1994, CAIR head Nihad Awad publicly declared his support for Hamas; the Holy Land Foundation (HLF), a Hamas front group, contributed $5,000 to CAIR; in turn, CAIR exploited the 9/11 attacks to raise money for HLF; and, this past August, demonstrators at a CAIR-sponsored rally in Florida proclaimed “We are Hamas!” It settled a lawsuit: CAIR initiated a libel lawsuit in 2004 over five statements by a group called Anti-CAIR. But two years later, CAIR settled the suit with prejudice (meaning that it cannot be reopened), implicitly acknowledging the accuracy of Anti-CAIR’s assertions, which included: “CAIR is a terrorist supporting front organization that is partially funded by terrorists”; “CAIR . . . is supported by terrorist supporting individuals, groups and countries”; “CAIR has proven links to, and was founded by, Islamic terrorists”; and “CAIR actively supports terrorists and terrorist supporting groups and nations.” It includes individuals accused of terrorism: At least seven board members or staff at CAIR have been arrested, denied entry to the U.S., or were indicted on or pled guilty to (or were convicted of) terrorist charges: Siraj Wahhaj, Bassem Khafagi, Randall (“Ismail”) Royer, Ghassan Elashi, Rabih Haddad, Muthanna Al-Hanooti, and Nabil Sadoun. It is in trouble with the law: Federal prosecutors in 2007 named CAIR (along with two other Islamic organizations) as “unindicted co-conspirators and/or joint venturers” in a criminal conspiracy to support Hamas financially. In 2008, the FBI ended contacts with CAIR because of concern about its continuing terrorist ties. On learning of the UAE listing, CAIR called it “shocking and bizarre,” then got to work to have the Department of State protest and undo the ruling. Nothing loath, department spokesperson Jeff Rathke noted that the U.S. government, which “does not consider these organizations to be terrorist organizations,” has asked for more information about the UAE decision. The UAE minister of state for foreign affairs replied that if organizations can show that their “approach has changed,” they are eligible to appeal “to have their names eliminated from the list.” Pressure from the Obama administration might reverse the UAE listing. Even so, this will not undo its lasting damage. For the first time, an Islamist government has exposed the malign, terroristic quality of CAIR — a stigma CAIR can never escape. — Daniel Pipes is president of the Middle East Forum. © 2014 by Daniel Pipes. All rights reserved.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/393614/cair-terror-group-daniel-pipes

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

What do you mean by "assimilate and unite in the name of US?" What would they have to do exactly to appease you in that regard? Take off her hijab? Go to a bar?

It is about loyalty.
What is the natural loyalty of a US Muslim, when there is a conflict between
a US Christian and a foreign Muslim?

Once You put citizenship above religion, you are done.
As long as You put religion over citizenship You are going to see rejection,
and it is You, that create that split.

(not ignoring the existence of prejudice)

 

[salimpheku]

Yep, those are the same people in that room as those psychopaths in the UK. Come on, man.

That's not what I said or meant.
I may have phased it better but the intent was to identify the root cause of the malic rather than going after the reactions to the main cause.

We all know what the main cause is. Address the main cause and Islamophobia will disappear.
BUT none of us have the guts, to say the main cause in the open. We all pussyfoot around these people not representing Islam or Muslim when we damn well know the truth.

 

[wiseone2]

Hypocrites and opportunists of the highest order.

They hate American values so much but still immigrate here.

They want to earn money in the US and fund organizations that are fighting America.

They want to unite in the name of Islam but would not assimilate and unite in the name of US which provides them all the opportunities.

what you say is true for a small minority ?

Most American Muslims want to raise their families in the West. Most of them do not finance armed groups that fight USA.

Nothing is perfect in America. Religious Christians find a lot of things failing in contemporary American society.

 

[Shivani87]

Chinese atheists should teach western atheists the real meaning of atheism.

By banning dangerous sounding names?

 

[TheBlackCoat]

what you say is true for a small minority ?

Most American Muslims want to raise their families in the West. Most of them do not finance armed groups that fight USA.

Nothing is perfect in America. Religious Christians find a lot of things failing in contemporary American society.

How do you know that most Muslims do not subscribe to such thoughts? Are you a Muslim?

 

[Avicenna]

Hypocrites and opportunists of the highest order.

They hate American values so much but still immigrate here.

They want to earn money in the US and fund organizations that are fighting America.

They want to unite in the name of Islam but would not assimilate and unite in the name of US which provides them all the opportunities.

Bullshit. There IS Islamophobia. And widespread tolerance of it. Do me a favor man, go read the comments section in ANY Yahoo article about Islam or muslims and then tell me how there isn't Islamophobia.