Why India's choosing US side to contain China is an epic mistake

[kankan326]

First of all, I need to make it clear that India is completely responsible for the recent China-India tensions. After Trump visited India in February, Modi had already made up his mind to join in anti China coalition. From April India army broke the status quo at LAC to build roads and bridges there.

Back to the topic. The best choice for India is, sitting on the fence(plan A). Keeping same distance between China and US. Good choice is joining in China’s side(plan B). Worst choice is Joining in US side(plan C).

1, Why is plan A the best choice? It will guarantee India to make profit from both sides. Both sides are willing to offer bribes to India. After joining in US side, India has lost its strategic flexibility. China of course will become its enemy. For US, it doesn’t have to please India because India has no way back. Before the day India decided to side with US, India was the boss. After, US was the boss.

2, Why plan B is better than plan C? 1) If India joins in China side, its position in the ally will be one of the leader countries. May be next to China. On US side however, India will be one of pawn countries like Australia, Canada, Japan. Maybe even worse. 2) China can help India more than US does. First, China has more free money than US to invest. Second, India’s economic structure is too different than US’. China’s technology transfer is more suitable for India’s industry demands. China is good at infrastructure, energy, electronics, labor-intensive industries. US is good at semiconductors, aircraft, high tech products. US is neither suitable for India’s development phase nor willing to transfer it technologies to India or other counties. The China-US trade war has proven that. 3) China is India’s neighbour. US is too far away. China can help India more, also can hurt India more. I mean much much more.

Modi is not a smart leader. He may want to become Indian version Deng Xiaoping. Who joined in US side during cold war and started a war with China’s neighbour Vietnam, Which demonstrated to the world that China was on US board. And China gained a huge reward by that. But things are different this time.

1, Soviet Union was barely a big economic power. It was an energy and materials supplier. And it’s a declining super power. Leaving it would not cause serious loss. Now, US is the declining super power and China is the biggest and growing industry country.

2, Boycotting Chinese products set a glass ceiling for India’s future development. India can boycott Chinese products because it is an importer. But if Indians have a wider and longer view, they should know China is the world biggest market and will be the biggest technologies transfer source. Giving up China is equal to giving up India’s future. “No China” is okay for present India, but not okay if India wants to upgrade its industry structure. The higher India’s development stage is, the harder the glass ceiling will be.

3, China will not collapse like Soviet Union did. China is way stronger than Soviet Union. Western countries have huge interests in China. Chinese leaders are much smarter than Soviet Union’s leaders. Compared with Russians, Chinese are much hardworking and good at science and economic activities. China will haunt India forever.

 

[Skull and Bones]

China and Chinese should never be trusted, period. Only normal trade relations should exists, nothing more.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Don't trust the US, said the Chinese.

Hmm.....

 

[kankan326]

Don't trust the US, said the Chinese.

Hmm.....

Also said by history.

 

[Ashraf. M]

China is an enemy... who puts the citizens as slaves.. and u want the democratic country like INDIA want to be allied with it.. r u gone nuts?.

India should play strategic games, get US weapons and make CHINA vulnerable with Nukes & by building more delivery systems.
Reduce imports and ally with all its enemies, strengthen QUAD, play war games in Indian ocean..

Its win win situation for India, extract the universal hatredness of all CHINEESE people around the world, replace all the workers in foriegn countries by Indians or south aseans.. CN is a very dirt word after CORONA.. year 2020 is wasted.. and the poster wants IN to be alley with CN.. no doubt the CN ambasidor has making overtures to India, thryre feeling the pain all around the diplomatic mess.

 

[Figaro]

First of all, I need to make it clear that India is completely responsible for the recent China-India tensions. After Trump visited India in February, Modi had already made up his mind to join in anti China coalition. From April India army broke the status quo at LAC to build roads and bridges there.

Back to the topic. The best choice for India is, sitting on the fence(plan A). Keeping same distance between China and US. Good choice is joining on China’s side(plan B). Worst choice is Joining on US side(plan C).

1, Why is plan A the best choice? It will guarantee India to make profit from both sides. Both sides are willing to offer bribes to India. After joining in US side, India has lost its strategic flexibility. China of course will become its enemy. For US, it doesn’t have to please India because India has no way back. Before the day India decided to side with US, India was the boss. After, US was the boss.

2, Why plan B is better than plan C? 1) If India joins in China side, its position in the ally will be one of the leader countries. May be next to China. On US side however, India will be one of pawn countries like Australia, Canada, Japan. Maybe even worse. 2) China can help India more than US does. First, China has more free money than US to invest. Second, India’s economic structure is too different than US’. China’s technology transfer is more suitable for India’s industry demands. Third, China is good at infrastructure, energy, electronics, labor-intensive industries. US is good at semiconductors, aircraft, high tech products. US is neither suitable for India’s development phase nor willing to transfer it technologies to India or other counties. The China-US trade war has proven that. 3) China is India’s neighbour. US is too far away. China can help India more, also can hurt India more. I mean much much more.

Modi is not a smart leader. He may want to become Indian version Deng Xiaoping. Who joined in US side during cold war and started a war with China’s neighbour Vietnam, Which demonstrated to the world that China was on US board. And China gained a huge reward by that. But things are different this time.

1, Soviet Union was barely a big economic power. It was an energy and materials supplier. And it’s a declining super power. Leaving it would not cause serious loss. Now, US is the declining super power and China is the biggest and growing industry country.

2, Boycotting Chinese products set a glass ceiling for India’s future development. India can boycott Chinese products because it is an importer. But if Indians have a wider and longer view, they should know China is the world biggest market and will be the biggest technologies transfer source. Giving up China is equal to giving up India’s future. “No China” is okay for present India, but not okay if India wants to upgrade its industry structure. The higher India’s development stage is, the harder the glass ceiling will be.

3, China will not collapse like Soviet Union did. China is way stronger than Soviet Union. Western countries have huge interests in China. Chinese leaders are much smarter than Soviet Union’s leaders. Compared with Russians, Chinese are much hardworking and good at science and economic activities. China will haunt India forever.

I really don't think building infrastructure on the LAC was "choosing" the United State's side or joining an Anti-China coalition. The Indians wanted to strengthen their position but obviously overreached.

China is an enemy... who puts the citizens as slaves.. and u want the democratic country like INDIA want to be allied with it.. r u gone nuts?.

India should play strategic games, get US weapons and make CHINA vulnerable with Nukes & by building more delivery systems.
Reduce imports and ally with all its enemies, strengthen QUAD, play war games in Indian ocean..

Ask how many Chinese "slaves" would want to become "free" in the land of India. After all, India is the world's largest democracy lol. Surely all slaves would rejoice and happily accept going to a place of freedom right?

 

[Vikram1]

Also said by history.

Well history said otherwise.
People of Hongkong are living example

Ask how many Chinese "slaves" would want to become "free" in the land of India. After all, India is the world's largest democracy lol. Surely all slaves would rejoice and happily accept going to a place of freedom right?

Slaves?
What about Uyghurs muslims in China?

 

[PradoTLC]

First of all, I need to make it clear that India is completely responsible for the recent China-India tensions. After Trump visited India in February, Modi had already made up his mind to join in anti China coalition. From April India army broke the status quo at LAC to build roads and bridges there.

Back to the topic. The best choice for India is, sitting on the fence(plan A). Keeping same distance between China and US. Good choice is joining on China’s side(plan B). Worst choice is Joining on US side(plan C).

1, Why is plan A the best choice? It will guarantee India to make profit from both sides. Both sides are willing to offer bribes to India. After joining in US side, India has lost its strategic flexibility. China of course will become its enemy. For US, it doesn’t have to please India because India has no way back. Before the day India decided to side with US, India was the boss. After, US was the boss.

2, Why plan B is better than plan C? 1) If India joins in China side, its position in the ally will be one of the leader countries. May be next to China. On US side however, India will be one of pawn countries like Australia, Canada, Japan. Maybe even worse. 2) China can help India more than US does. First, China has more free money than US to invest. Second, India’s economic structure is too different than US’. China’s technology transfer is more suitable for India’s industry demands. China is good at infrastructure, energy, electronics, labor-intensive industries. US is good at semiconductors, aircraft, high tech products. US is neither suitable for India’s development phase nor willing to transfer it technologies to India or other counties. The China-US trade war has proven that. 3) China is India’s neighbour. US is too far away. China can help India more, also can hurt India more. I mean much much more.

Modi is not a smart leader. He may want to become Indian version Deng Xiaoping. Who joined in US side during cold war and started a war with China’s neighbour Vietnam, Which demonstrated to the world that China was on US board. And China gained a huge reward by that. But things are different this time.

1, Soviet Union was barely a big economic power. It was an energy and materials supplier. And it’s a declining super power. Leaving it would not cause serious loss. Now, US is the declining super power and China is the biggest and growing industry country.

2, Boycotting Chinese products set a glass ceiling for India’s future development. India can boycott Chinese products because it is an importer. But if Indians have a wider and longer view, they should know China is the world biggest market and will be the biggest technologies transfer source. Giving up China is equal to giving up India’s future. “No China” is okay for present India, but not okay if India wants to upgrade its industry structure. The higher India’s development stage is, the harder the glass ceiling will be.

3, China will not collapse like Soviet Union did. China is way stronger than Soviet Union. Western countries have huge interests in China. Chinese leaders are much smarter than Soviet Union’s leaders. Compared with Russians, Chinese are much hardworking and good at science and economic activities. China will haunt India forever.

India will never want to cooperate simply as they cannot mentally accept playing second fiddle to China.

Indians believe (very incorrectly) that they have superpower calibre and so it suits them to join with US to gag up against China and bring them down.

Indians have a slave mentality to white people, they are happy to serve under americans because in their heads white people are superior and should be followed.

 

[kankan326]

Well history said otherwise.
People of Hongkong are living example

You are brainwashed. Hongkong basic law has security law(Article 23). This law is supposed to be passed by HK legislature after 1997. But HK refused to pass it. It was HKers who broke their promise. Not China.

 

[PradoTLC]

the democratic country like INDIA wa

the most absurd statement of the century...

 

[Osiris]

Chinese emperor Xi could not handle the criticism(both internal and external ) he was receiving due to his handling this plague which originated from China, jnstead lashed all around like a little kid and in the process has made very powerful enemies in it's neighborhood and beyond.

 

[Prometheus]

1) China is not a superpower and US is.
2) India is still friend with Russia , even with cozy relations with US
3) Joining China , as per Communist Chinese Govt. is giving away Arunachal and parts of Ladakh .........along with literally giving free hand to bully small nation of Bhutan.
4) Pakistan joined China , not as equal . ............India is not like Pakistan.
5) Claiming China as world's largest market is just plain idiotic . Communist Govt. does not provide excess to its market.........what biggest market? examples are of Indian Pharma companies still not getting excess to Chinese market. and even on global level , companies like google and facebook are not allowed in China......so please insdead of claiming China as largest market .....claim it as Largest locked market.
6) every Totalitarian regimes have fallen in the past , and they will continue to fall in the future......Democracy is the future.

7) World can loose interest in China or any other country if it is perceived as a rough state.........and whole world unites against them. example is of Nazi germany.........literally whole of europe had trade/commercial interest in it..........so where is nazi germany now???

 

[PradoTLC]

Modi is not a smart leader.

The guy was formally a tea boy...so what do you expect?

 

[Vikram1]

You are brainwashed. Hongkong basic law has security law(Article 23). This law is supposed to be passed by HK legislature after 1997. But HK refused to pass it. It was HKers who broke their promise. Not China.

You are only allowed to read/watch news/articles that are pro CCP and we are brainwashed ... Waah

 

[PradoTLC]

What about Uyghurs muslims in China?

what about muslims in india?