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In the latest annual rankings of the world's 200 best universities, by Times Higher Education (THE) there's not a single Indian name.

Shocking? Then here's the surprise: 15 Asian universities figure in the same survey as the rising stars of global higher education -- two from China, three from South Korea, four from Japan, four from Hong Kong, one from Singapore, and one from Taiwan.

Put the two facts together, and you get a pretty good idea of what the new class is going to be like.

Japan, of course, has been for long a respected presence on the global academic scene and will continue to be a steady winner in future rankings.

But it's China (including Hong Kong and Taiwan), South Korea and Singapore that are making waves right now -- in particular, China and South Korea -- as they entrench their positions as the world's new destinations of excellence, Western domination of global higher education, still unquestioned, could begin to feel the pinch.

In the THE rankings, universities are judged for teaching quality, research activities, knowledge transfer, and international outlook.

If, against these criteria, the National University of Singapore could occupy the 29th position in the 2012-13 survey, the University of Hong Kong the 35th, Peking and Tsinghua Universities in China the 46th and 52nd places, respectively, Seoul National University the 59th slot and Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology the 68th, the future shouldn't be hard to read.

Even more remarkable is the strength of the determination to excel.

The National University of Singapore, for example, moved up 11 notches from a year ago, while Tsinghua and Seoul National jumped 19 and 56 places, respectively, in a single year. Academic circles in the West believe a bigger Asian presence in the global league is only a matter of time.

Where exactly does India stand? A year ago, India was nowhere even among the world's 300 best, and the Indian Institute of Technology, Mumbai had a presence in the 301-350 band.

In 2012-13, IIT Kharagpur appeared in the 226-250 bracket, IIT Mumbai advanced into the 251-275 range, while IIT Roorkee sneaked into the last of the ranking categories, 351-400.

There's a movement, yes, but still a very tentative one.

What's the secret that the Chinese and the Koreans know and we don't?

Simply put, it's their desire to blend pure academic pursuits with down-to-earth R&D, go the extra mile to woo international talent, open up channels of international cooperation, and turn universities into laboratories of national development.

Working towards this end, and encouraged by their governments, universities in the two countries have undergone a character change that foreign students and professors find increasingly hospitable, as do foreign corporations looking across borders for partnerships in problem-solving research.

Both countries have been pumping huge amounts of money every year into research and higher education.

South Korea, where the private sector accounts for almost 74 per cent of all R&D spending, has a funding programme called the "World-Class University Project" that encourages universities to establish new academic departments and host international scholars for collaborative research.

China treats its universities and research institutes as "engines of growth", expecting them to function as idea machines to serve specific industry needs.

It's not a surprise therefore that foreign professors and students are as welcome in China as multinational corporations seeking to expand R&D alliances in the country.

IBM, Intel, Microsoft, and many other foreign firms have substantial collaborative arrangements with Chinese universities. China's own R&D spending, coursed mainly through its universities and research institutes, was up 23 per cent to $139.2 billion in 2011, which meant a steady rise of 20 per cent on average for the sixth straight year.

Until as late as 1993, exchanging students, swapping information, and attending international conferences were the primary modes of China's international academic collaboration.

Things began to change when a new law was introduced that year on the future of science and technology in the country. Beijing's Tsinghua University -- where this year's Nobel Prize co-winner in Chemistry, Brian Kobilka, is a guest professor -- reflects how this change is affecting Chinese academia.

In 1950, Tsinghua only had 14 foreign students on its rolls, all from Eastern Europe. In October last year, 3,450 international students from 112 countries were studying there.

In recent years, it has been particularly aggressive in seeking R&D collaborations with international partners, widening the scope it offers for practical research and enhancing its appeal among students and teachers alike.

A typical example is a new lab that BT, a leading provider of communications services, is setting up at Tsinghua to undertake joint projects in areas like the business application of cloud computing.

The purpose is as much to provide a bridge between Chinese innovation and BT technology as to develop new global patents that will give both China and BT a better competitive advantage.

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Only 2 Universities from China . Congrats to Chinese people for Reaching Epitome in Education . Between 200 to 300 there are two Indian Universities as well . You might have more but again it Does not make you a Asian Leader in Education .


Try trolling India on a better topic next time .
 
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Only 2 Universities from China . Congrats to Chinese people for Reaching Epitome in Education . Between 200 to 300 there are two Indian Universities as well.

Which is considered as low ranking.

You might have more but again it Does not make you a Asian Leader in Education

I wasn't intended to say China is a leader in Asian education, unlike some Indian members here claiming India's a superpower already :lol:
 
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Which is considered as low ranking.



I wasn't intended to say China is a leader in Asian education, unlike some Indian members here claiming India's a superpower already :lol:

Just Like some Chinese Clown that claim they will Nail USN with DF 21 :rofl: . It's upto you who you listen too .
 
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4 IITs ranks within top 100 for engineering and science department, overall ranking is poor because they don't teach arts, music, history or medical sciences like traditional western universities.
 
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Which is enough to keep the US guessing. But it's nothing close to hungry Indians claiming superpower status :rofl:

Indian Govt. doesn't claims itself to be a superpower. So where-ever you have read-heard about India being super power is obviously the wrong source. And not all written over internet is true. So use some sense.
 
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Only 2 Universities from China . Congrats to Chinese people for Reaching Epitome in Education . Between 200 to 300 there are two Indian Universities as well . You might have more but again it Does not make you a Asian Leader in Education . Try trolling India on a better topic next time .

We have more than 2 universities which rank high in top 50:

QS World University Rankings - Topuniversities

Peking U
Tsinghua U
HKU
HKUST
CUHK

Ranking 51-100

National Taiwan U
Fudan U
City U HK

101-200

Shanghai Jiaotong U
HK Polytechnic U
Nanjing U
Zhejiang U
Nationa Tsing Hua U

4 IITs ranks within top 100 for engineering and science department, overall ranking is poor because they don't teach arts, music, history or medical sciences like traditional western universities.

Tsinghua U
HKUST
MIT ( no 1)
Caltech ( no 10)
EHT Zurich - Swiss Fed IT (no 13)
Nanyang Tech U
Carnegie Mellon U
.... etc are great engineering schools in top 50 nothwithstanding other comprehensive top ranking univeristies also excel in their engineering departments

IIT sucks!
 
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Indian Govt. doesn't claims itself to be a superpower. So where-ever you have read-heard about India being super power is obviously the wrong source. And not all written over internet is true. So use some sense.

There is no doubt that India feels that it has arrived. Some of its politicians and business leaders believe it has reached a status as a third superpower, alongside the United States and China. On August 15, the country celebrated the 65th anniversary of its independence from British rule with elaborate parades. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, 79, promised: "No power in the world can stop our country from achieving new heights of progress and development."
India Caught Between Superpower Dreams and Harsh Realities - SPIEGEL ONLINE
 
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well its because of lack of research, innovation and infrastructure and also Indian educational system is different than that which exist in Western countries and you have to perform better in all areas like quality teaching, job prospects, research, funding etc

Six indicators are used there

academic peer review(40%), Faculty student ratio(20%) , citations per faculty(20%), recruiter review(10%), international orientation(10%) etc
 
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well its because of lack of research, innovation and infrastructure and also Indian educational system is different than that which exist in Western countries and you have to perform better in all areas like quality teaching, job prospects, research, funding etc

Six indicators are used there

academic peer review(40%), Faculty student ratio(20%) , citations per faculty(20%), recruiter review(10%), international orientation(10%) etc

Whatever resource we have, we are improving it and will improve the figures in coming time. How fast/slow we will improve, no one can predict. Ony time will tell. These ranking also helps the policymaker to improve the facilities.
 
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