Why India is allowed to do human rights violation in Kashmir. Robert Fisk

[BHarwana]

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[Indus Pakistan]

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This guy is rare breed who say it like it is. It's all about geopolitics. And by the way it's Robert Fisk.

 

[BHarwana]

This guy is rare breed who say it like it is. It's all about geopolitics. And by the way it's Robert Fisk.

Yes and in this permit given to India USA and NATO is also suffering. Trump is failing in Afghan policy just because of India. NATO is being forces to commit billions to weapons than human development because of India. On the other hand India has so far delivered nothing which has been expected from India.

 

[maximuswarrior]

Nailed it. It is nothing, but the truth. They want to contain China and they think that India can act as a buffer state. The Americans are sorely wrong about that. They have put money on the wrong horse. They have bled like a pig in Afghanistan and not learnt a thing in the past 17 years. In the process they have hurt Pak economy and security. Not only that, they have lost every bit of credibility and the relations are beyond repair. Job well done America. Today they are literally begging for negotiations with the Taliban. When Pakistan said the same thing it was a sin, but today it is kosher. What an incredible loss for America. Talk about shooting yourself on the foot. Everything gone to absolute waste.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Yes and in this permit given to India USA and NATO is also suffering. Trump is failing in Afghan policy just because of India. NATO is being forces to commit billions to weapons than human development because of India. On the other hand India has so far delivered nothing which has been expected from India.

It's all about ....

They want to contain China and they think that India can act as a buffer state.

 

[UKBengali]

Nailed it. It is nothing, but the truth. They want to contain China and they think that India can act as a buffer state. The Americans are sorely wrong about that. They have put money on the wrong horse. They have bled like a pig in Afghanistan and not learnt a thing in the past 17 years. In the process they have hurt Pak economy and security. Not only that, they have lost every bit of credibility and the relations are beyond repair. Job well done America. Today they are literally begging for negotiations with the Taliban. When Pakistan said the same thing it was a sin, but today it is kosher. What an incredible loss for America. Talk about shooting yourself on the foot. Everything gone to absolute waste.

Apart from Pakistan and now Myanmar(known flip-flop) does China have any friends or allies?

China is containing itself by annoying most countries in Asia.

 

[BHarwana]

It's all about ....

I know but my point is India has failed to contain China. India has not delivered any thing to contain China instead loans which were given to India to contain China are being sent to Russian military in forming weapons purchases. Only few billions came back to French companies in form of Rafale deal yet every thing else of US tax payers is going to Russia. What has India delivered so far on the aspects of containing China? Other than getting humiliating at dolkham by China.

 

[UKBengali]

I know but my point is India has failed to contain China. India has not delivered any thing to contain China instead loans which were given to India to contain China are being sent to Russian military in forming weapons purchases. Only few billions came back to French companies in form of Rafale deal yet every thing else of US tax payers is going to Russia. What has India delivered so far on the aspects of containing China? Other than getting humiliating at dolkham by China.

India is helping the containment of China by just being there.

Like I say, no-one needs to contain China as they have pretty much annoyed every single country in Asia and are doing a fantastic job containing themselves!

US is only a superpower as it has the whole of the Western World, Japan and Korea on it's side. China only has an economically weak Pakistan to be frank.

 

[MultaniGuy]

The reason the world does not give a damn, is because India is being used to counter China.

but lol, India is far behind China economically, and militarily, to be a rival, lol.

The three great empires of our time in the year 2018 which are USA, Russia, and China couldn't give a damn for Kashmir dispute because it does not affect them.

 

[BHarwana]

India is helping the containment of China by just being there.

Like I say, no-one needs to contain China as they have pretty much annoyed every single country in Asia and are doing a fantastic job containing themselves!

US is only a superpower as it has the whole of the Western World, Japan and Korea on it's side. China only has an economically weak Pakistan to be frank.

Okay let's take what you are saying and tell me how China is contained. Every country in Asia is buying from China and India whose job is to contain China is buying from China more than any one. Chinese military is growing every day they are throwing out military tech out there which is not yet operational in west. There are 52 insurgencies taking place in India and those insurgencies have the capacity to swallow Bangladesh along it. So how is China being contained? Still what has India delivered so far? This is the big question.

The values of human rights are being played like a game of poker in Kashmir. Students are being killed activists being abducted under false charges Children being blinded with pellet guns and what has been achieved by giving India free hand to kill Kashmir people? China is to big for India to contain so why help killing innocent in Kashmir?

 

[UKBengali]

Okay let's take what you are saying and tell me how China is contained. Every country in Asia is buying from China and India whose job is to contain China is buying from China more than any one. Chinese military is growing every day they are throwing out military tech out there which is not yet operational in west. There are 52 insurgencies taking place in India and those insurgencies have the capacity to swallow Bangladesh along it. So how is China being contained? Still what has India delivered so far? This is the big question.

The values of human rights are being played like a game of poker in Kashmir. Students are being killed activists being abducted under false charges Children being blinded with pellet guns and what has been achieved by giving India free hand to kill Kashmir people? China is to big for India to contain so why help killing innocent in Kashmir?

Simple - apart from Pakistan, who will fight with China or even give China verbal support in a war with US?

India is no match for China for sure but it is useful as it is so big and the US now has the ability to use bases in India to fight China.

If you look at a map you will see how boxed in China is - without allies it will just stay a regional power unable to exert influence anywhere near the level of the US. China's economy will grow large for sure but so will other Asian countries ,and so it's economic power will not grow to a level that it can punish other countries that do not side with it.

I would personally prefer China to stop pissing everyone off and make some friends, but they keep doing it time after time.

 

[BHarwana]

Simple - apart from Pakistan, who will fight with China or even give China verbal support in a war with US?

India is no match for China for sure but it is useful as it is so big and the US now has the ability to use bases in India to fight China.

If you look at a map you will see how boxed in China is - without allies it will just stay a regional power unable to exert influence anywhere near the level of the US. China's economy will grow large for sure but so will other Asian countries ,and so it's economic power will not grow to a level that it can punish other countries that do not side with it.

I would personally prefer China to stop pissing everyone off and make some friends, but they keep doing it time after time.

Okay so China has no allies? Russia is China's enemy? Pakistan is China's enemy? North Korea is China's enemy? Kazakhstan is China's enemy? If look around China I don't see any enemies other than India Japan south Korea and all these so called enemies of China are just verbal they do more trade with China than any other country.

USA and Europe is allowing Indian genocide in Kashmir with out gaining any thing. China has economically taken over USA they are building military which is far stronger than NATO so where has India contained China attest show me one thing India has done for west so far to contain China?

You mean to say allowing India to kill civilians in Kashmir and after 5 years Trump will just say India has done nothing for us other than lies?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I know but my point is India has failed to contain China. India has not delivered any thing to contain China instead loans which were given to India to contain China are being sent to Russian military in forming weapons purchases. Only few billions came back to French companies in form of Rafale deal yet every thing else of US tax payers is going to Russia. What has India delivered so far on the aspects of containing China? Other than getting humiliating at dolkham by China.

The person who wears the shoes knows if it fits. it's for USA to decide. And they have. Further they are in it for the long haul. Measuring in the present is being myopic. This is a strategic investment by the west in India which looks as far forward as 2050s onwards. India will never contain China. Hindoo's don't have the nuts. But still 1,400,000,000 nuts times 2 does carry some weight which the west can leverage. Who else do they have in the underbelly of China? Bhutan, Bangla, gayboy Thai's?

From the west's perspective it makes eminent sense.

 

[BHarwana]

The person who wears the shoes knows if it fits. it's for USA to decide. And they have. Further they are in it for the long haul. Measuring in the present is being myopic. This is a strategic investment by the west in India which looks as far forward as 2050s onwards. India will never contain China. Hindoo's don't have the nuts. But still 1,400,000,000 nuts times 2 does carry some weight which the west can leverage. Who else do they have in the underbelly of China? Bhutan, Bangla, gayboy Thai's?

From the west's perspective it makes eminent sense.

Okay so they have no one in the under belly of China I know it. Even the puppet govt in Afghanistan don't has the balls.
I can understand the love of Yankees for this type of game. They have a habit for such theater but what about Europe? Are they also going to let this all human killing happen under the pretext of containing China?

For example they are donating to India for poverty elevation while France it self needs money to lower fuel prices and look whole holiday season is fucked in France because of Paris burning? I have nothing against France but turning a blind eye to genocide in Kashmir and letting your own cities burn because of inflation just to send money to India to contain China is something I am not able to understand.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Europe?

Look below. When you say USA. It has a tail mile long behind it. They call it 'west' although many of the countries not not by definition physically in the west like Japan.

USA < Canada < UK < France < Germany < Italy < Spain < Sweden < Europe etc < Israel < Saudia Arabia < Japan < South Korea < Singapore < Australia < New Zealand etc.

They can have differances. So do I with my brothers but broadly all are in the same lane. And USA is the pied piper.