Why Imran Khan idea about TTP office in brilliant?

[Peaceful Civilian]

What has MQM got to do with TTP? At least they have the guts to fight TTP in Karachi not like Imran Khan coward.

Mate, this party MQM is shameless... They are licking every ruling government just to protect their target killers and bhatta mafia .... I will not surprise when They will lick PTI, if PTI becomes ruling party..
You need video link of Nawaz sharif and PPPP statements about terrorist MQM....? Han.... Tell me....
This is such shameless political party in the history... Mate, even if Alqaida wins from Pakistan, they will start licking them......
or
I remind you, statements of MQM about "Taliban supporter Nawaz sharif"? and recent statement of MQM about about MQM's brother PMLN?? han

No need to bring MQM here.

 

[Hyperion]

IK's heart is in the right place, as usual. He is one of the most honest and decent person that I know of, however, in this particular case, he is just plain wrong. You can not negotiate with terrorists, and that too with 100 splinter groups, who all want something. Let's say, even if every subgroup has just one demand, in the end it will pile up to 100 demands, what do you do then? Rewrite the law to accommodate these imbeciles? Bad bad idea.

And to blind IK supporters: IK is not a god, nor is any other politician. He is one of the best available choices we have as he is not corrupt, however, he is no strategist. He needs to reprimanded whenever he goes overboard.

 

[Jzaib]

IK's heart is in the right place, as usual. He is one of the most honest and decent person that I know of, however, in this particular case, he is just plain wrong. You can not negotiate with terrorists, and that too with 100 splinter groups, who all want something. Let's say, even if every subgroup has just one demand, in the end it will pile up to 100 demands, what do you do then? Rewrite the law to accommodate these imbeciles? Bad bad idea.

And to blind IK supporters: IK is not a god, nor is any other politician. He is one of the best available choices we have as he is not corrupt, however, he is no strategist. He needs to reprimanded whenever he goes overboard.

totally agree with u ..but serious exhuast all options b4 the operation ..so we dnt keep saying what we did in wazirstan was same as we done in 1971..let the people know they cant be trusted ..have u seen how many taliban aplogist we have in this forum ..its much more on streets .. if anythng will go wrong they will star criticizing the government and action ..

opening up an office is a gud ideaa .. we are not gona do it parmanetly ..just to ficilitate talk ..trust me taliban dnt trust ius like we dnt trust them .. we call them kafirs and agents , they call us american puppets .. giving them office can help in talks

I am all in for war with them if the nation unite against them but we all know it it will be deadly and very costly war ..which we cant afford ..let everyone exhuast all the other options

 

[pak-marine]

Mate this party MQM is shameless... They are licking every ruling government just to protect their target killers and bhatta mafia .... I will not surprise when They will lick PTI, if PTI becomes ruling party..
You need video link of Nawaz sharif and PPPP statements about terrorist MQM....? Han.... Tell me....
This is such shameless political party in the history... Mate, even if Alqaida wins from Pakistan, they will start licking them......
or I remind you, statements of MQM about "Taliban supporter Nawaz sharif"? and recent statement of MQM about about MQM's brother PMLN?? han No need to bring MQM here.

MQM dared to fight the Taliban and extremists goons , they stood up to the tyrants .. They never let the mullah and extremists brigade do what they wanted to do and spread hatred in karachi ... atleast they did some thing right from the beganing unlike PTI which has now turned into TTP's political cell and mouth piece , and thats what the fight was all about since last many years.

 

[Patriots]

Isn't Asad Umar agreed with IK's ideology....?
@mr42O @Peaceful Civilian

 

[Anotherangle]

To be honest i was also thinking did Imran Khan made a mistake by saying TTP should be allowed to open a office but i also could understand why he was saying that.

But after giving his idea second thoughts and talking with some other friends here is my view why Imran Khan's idea is brilliant. Reason is simple get them into politics , ask them to open office , sitt on table and talk , stop fighting. It will take time to change them but its only way. There are more than local ppl living in these area, ppl hiding from there goverment or from Pakistanies for there crimes as it has always been with these area.

Forget about politics and which party u belong to or even which country u are from. Can u realy think you can kill every one and take over area to live in peace ? Histroy speaks for itself after Americans leaving Afghanistan atleast most of them in 2014 it will be even harder to have any control. These groups will have even bigger area to play on and no way Afghans or Pakistan or any one else can control border.

You cant change people by force its a long time process with education etc etc.


And a suggestion to my PTI politicans please dont make comments like its 40% chance we can take control of waziristan by force etc etc. Atleast not in public.

YES! After initially dismissing it, I just realized the merits of the idea giving it a second thought in my free time; in addition to the benefits you have mentioned, an immediate benefit is the strategic one and that is you know who is sitting in the office, who they represent, how many groups are serious and from which area, so it will reduce the operation area, reduce the enemy number, dispel confusions who is in control of whom and who is talk-able and who is not. Usually I consider Imran as a person in hurry and rather immature (second to the Dawn readership only), but this time he has come up with really brilliant idea (maybe unitentionally); it has real potential to deliver and also to get Imran more respect, only if people realize

 

[Jzaib]

Isn't Asad Umar agreed with IK's ideology....?
@mr42O @Peaceful Civilian

its a democratic party ..its not MQM or pml n .. we criticise imran if we think that he is wrong .. isnt it a good change ?

YES! After initially dismissing it, I just realized the merits of the idea giving it a second thought in my free time; in addition to the benefits you have mentioned, an immediate benefit is the strategic one and that is you know who is sitting in the office, who they represent, how many groups are serious and from which area, so it will reduce the operation area, reduce the enemy number, dispel confusions who is in control of whom and who is talk-able and who is not. Usually I consider Imran as a person in hurry and rather immature (second to the Dawn readership only), but this time he has come up with really brilliant idea (maybe unitentionally); it has real potential to deliver and also to get Imran more respect, only if people realize

but the timings of the bombing is very bad .. peace process is kinda over now .. media is totally against it .. im all in for war but we should sincerly exhuast all options .. to many people are talking about war but they are not considering ..how costly, deadly and winable the war is ... ow america exit will make TTP more stronger ...

 

[Anotherangle]

MQM dared to fight .......................... they stood up to the tyrants .. ece , and thats what the fight was all about since last many years.

I am also an MQM voter, but please don't tell lies so openly; when did we (MQM) stand up to dictators? MQM was made by Dictator 1 ZiaulHaq during Marshal law and protected by Musharaf dictator 2, and To be honest, MQM faced the wrath of democratic governments for obvious wrong doings (in fact crimes) and our youth has killed all the policemen who took part in Karachi operation during Benazir time (1994); if it is not terrorism, what other name can I give to it? that is what alienate people like me from MQM and vote in next election for PTI (although I do not like IK)

 

[pak-marine]

I am also an MQM voter, but please don't tell lies so openly; when did we (MQM) stand up to dictators? MQM was made by Dictator 1 ZiaulHaq during Marshal law and protected by Musharaf dictator 2, and To be honest, MQM faced the wrath of democratic governments for obvious wrong doings (in fact crimes) and our youth has killed all the policemen who took part in Karachi operation during Benazir time (1994); if it is not terrorism, what other name can I give to it? that is what alienate people like me from MQM and vote in next election for PTI (although I do not like IK)

why were you voting for MQM when you knew all this ??

 

[Slav Defence]

Very bad idea,very very bad idea,infact this is a huge mistake of Mr.Khan.
I am a PTI supporter,and I am extremely disappointed of such decision.
There is a huge difference between having peace settlement and giving political influence,by giving them access to our political infrastructure,Mr.Khan is giving them chance to spread,strenghthen their tentacles in our very politcal base,also helping them to produce positive image.

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Isn't Asad Umar agreed with IK's ideology....?
@mr42O @Peaceful Civilian

Hi, everybody has right to express any concern and to speak... this is freedom of expression in PTI unlike MQM , where even you can't speak against party or else you receive Bori band lash immediately...

 

[Patriots]

Hi, everybody has right to express any concern and to speak... this is freedom of expression in PTI unlike MQM , where even you can't speak against party or else you receive Bori band lash immediately...

I am just asking my dearest dumbo that why didn't Asad Umar agree with brilliant idea of biggest DUMBO of Pakistan ...........

 

[Anotherangle]

why were you voting for MQM when you knew all this ??

Oh ho! the election is different; a lot depends on the candidate ; you can choose if there is really a choice available.

 

[pak-marine]

Oh ho! the election is different; a lot depends on the candidate ; you can choose if there is really a choice available.

on one hand you said they were killers and have all the worst things than on the other hand you were voting for them because elections are different .. WTF is this ! and you called me a liar ! you have not painted a good picture about your self.

 

[Anotherangle]

Very bad idea,very very bad idea,infact this is a huge mistake of Mr.Khan.
I am a PTI supporter,and I am extremely disappointed of such decision.
There is a huge difference between having peace settlement and giving political influence,by giving them access to our political infrastructure,Mr.Khan is giving them chance to spread,strenghthen their tentacles in our very politcal base,also helping them to produce positive image.

I am not a PTI suppporter and I am now really convinced that this is a potentially brilliant idea in fact this is among very few intelligent statement, not a mistake at all. An office for dialogue does not mean many political offices; The under discussion elements are citizens of Pakistan, they have all rights to any image if they accept the law and lay down weapons; Contrary to your opinion the idea has huge strategic potential; It depends how you implement the idea, it is about how you use the office, if you botch the job, it can be negative, then you can close it; it would become a potential leverage against the rogue elements!
Referring to my earlier post only if you have not read
[in addition to the benefits you have mentioned, an immediate benefit is the strategic one and that is you know who is sitting in the office, who they represent, how many groups are serious and from which area, so it will reduce the operation area, reduce the enemy number, dispel confusions who is in control of whom and who is talk-able and who is not.]

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