why does Vietnam develop better than India?

[janon]

Do you think space will soon come to end? obviously , you underestimate the power and funcion of space . I am sure that it will not come to end over the next 100 years

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[magic-007]

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[kuge]

Both are developing countries，Asian countries are in close proximity.The standard of living is quite.Both have good tourist resources.
The two countries have a strong sense of national pride.Do not you think the two countries are similar.

& both of them r antagonist to their northern neighbour..

 

[osama zafar]

Why does America develop better than Nigeria?

 

[Speeder 2]

From evolution point of view, India's avg IQ is 81, whereas Vietnam's is 90+.

That's why.

 

[Wen Ling]

My unbiased comment. when china had good relations with vietnam there were trickled economic benefits to vietnam. now i don't know if that will be the same in the future as relationship not as good as before. china start to become tougher for border villagers who want to go across china border to sell stuff than return at night. now they just close off or scrutinize more.
now Vietnamese merchants trying to find other sources to get raw materials and sell agri products. when vietnam sign TPP i hope it will benefit us.

The relationship between Vietnam and China has both historic and geopolitical origin.
But any reasonable people who's been in Vietnam will believe it has a bright future.
Honest speaking, if Vietnam does not take the chance of low GDP to build a decent railway between south and the north ASAP, Vietnam may regret in the future. I was personally confused, usually Communist Party has good vision for development because of the Marxism philosophy, but it seems CPV does not have such capabilities.

 

[Wen Ling]

Both are poor and very clueless in their game plan. However the Viet benefit from learning from the best, us.

Don't be arrogant. every country is unique. One thing Chinese has to learn from its past 4000 year history is: don't be arrogant.
one failure of USA in the past decade is too arrogant!

I don't know why Chinese members here think India and Vietnam as a poor country and China as a developed country.

All 3 countries are Developing and I'm damn sure in our life time, we won't be seeing any of these 3 countries turn into Fully Developed country like West.

If any Chinese people think China is already a developed country, that is a stupid guy! plus, being humble is always good.

The problem with the Indian is that for every dollar they save and gain from surplus revenue, they buy weapons to showboat to the world of India's impending superpower while neglecting the poor infrastructure. Now without a proper infrastructure, they can't do anything. In fact, energy will become a major problem for them. Electricity is already hard in India for household, let alone for business to thrive.

As for the little Viet.. They get to learn from the best but they don't have the enthusiasm or shall I call it, "Smart business decision-maker".. that why they try to copy our SOE strategy but fail to recognize their weaknesses in maintaining an profitable business which led to huge deficit and loss in their SOEs and a stagnant, slow growing country for a size as tiny as them.

My fellow countryman, trying to teach someone a lesson is always bad. don't be arrogant! China has its own trouble. How do feel when China being condescending by Japan/Korea ten years ago? please do not repeat their mistakes. just watch and listen, it is basically not of our business, and both of them do not like us. We should try to consult when being asked.

Hate will destroy oneself. I don't like those so_called anti_Japanese patriots in China. Mobs are terrible! One should be a friend to all peoples.

In case of dispute, sit down and talk. It's 21st century, fighting benefits no one.

The distrust between Vietnam and China is both geopolitical and historic. no solution. if you notice, Chinese government preferred their companies invest more in Cambodia and Thailand...
even Taiwan probably invest more in Vietnam. but I truly believe Vietnam will have a bright future.
good luck for them!

but china 动手 in 1979 and now in our sea.

The 1979 war is because Vietnam invaded Cambodia before, and China stated very clearly. It is unacceptable for China to have a potential powerful nation in the southern without natural barrier, and Vietnam wanted to take over Laos and Cambodia at that time.
SCS is something we have to fight for while... no solution... and Vietnam does not hold all the good reasons for it.

The national interest between China and Vietnam is conflicting, and its geopolitical, that is not gonna change. plus, there is historical mistrust.

Weather you like it or not, China is there, Vietnam is nearby...no solution

Of course the best possible future would be one with all conflicts settled peacefully. But can that happen?

It can and will happen with India and China. These two countries don't have a history of enemity towards each other, and no religious hatred at all. The only issue is that both countries claim some land at the border, and neither country wants to simply let go of the claim. However, that bit of land is not worth fighting a war, especially between such large militaries that India and China are. Frankly, most of the contested land is sparsely populated and of no value. Bear in mind though, that although we have a land dispute, we also have multi billion dollar trade relations. Among people to people, there is very little bad feelings.

India-Pak is a different issue. Both countries hate each other, due to history and to an extent, due to religious issues. There is littlle love lost between the people on either side. Now the main conflict is this - both countries claim Kashmir to be fully their own, but control only part of it. Pakistan has started three wars and several smaller conflict to try to take Indian Kashmir from India. That has never happened, and India has succesfully defended the territory she controls. What kind of a solution do you propose? India has no intention of giving away Indian land. Pakistan will keep trying to win sympathy through Kashmir, because that is the only cause that unites their people. Frankly, the ball is in Pak's court - India would be amenable to making the present line of control the permanent border, and both countries can keep what they have. But as long as Pak won't agree (and they won't), what do you expect us to do?

You say we should talk it out - but what exactly will that yield? Try to think of one possible solution that will make both sides happy. There isn't one, as far as I can tell.

I am not sure Pakistan, but I am quite the distrust between India and China is geopolitical, and I did not see a solution in horizon. Please just don't be kidding ourself. This is forum for truth, even partially, pretending is not good.
The same applies to Vietnam.
If you notice, China's government never encourage their companies goes to both countries. Because there is NO solution for both national interest conflictions, and we have to live with that.
BTW, I does not process hostility to both Indians and Vietnamese. It is just plain truth, no way to get around...

Rome is not built in a day, same goes to China here! In 15 years or 50 years, China will be worlds leading economy but leading economy doesn't automatically translate into a developed country. China's HDI , wages, labor protection, infrastructure development, health sector, transport, communication must improve 100 folds what is it now.

My age is around 27 now so if you ask me if I'll see China as a developed Country when I'm 80; I highly doubt that.

Dude, whether China can be a fully developed country or not, One fact you shold know, if China want to make Singapore life miserable, it is easy.
you notice the Seaport projects with Malaysia, right? that is an excellent strategic move just by commercial force. Moreover, 6 Malaysia ports now forms ally with 7 biggest China's ports.
This is only because China does not appreciate Singapore's position on SCS. so No matter how advanced Singapore is, it is a tiny country and the the countries around does NOT like Singapore that much.

 

[Wen Ling]

this is just the reason coz Vietnam and India are comparable, both in Asia, close to each other and with



in 2005, China's GDP is only half of Japan's
in 2013, China's GDP is about twice of Japan's

it means in just 8 years, China's GDP grows 4 times compared to Japan.

Now, China's GDP per capita is about 1/3 of Taiwans, let's see how long will it take for China 's GDP per capita to grow 3 times compared to Taiwan.

No one can be sure about that. China still has a lot of trouble before its further development.

 

[CorporateAffairs]

These two countries started reforming in similar years
but Vietnam is ahead of India

If I want to travel or work in one of these two countries, I will definitely choose vietnam coz it is clean, safe and non-chaos like India

India had a chronic disease called as Congress (a political establishment) meant for destroying and looting India, we just started to get rid of it, hence you will see how India will move ahead in the years to come.

 

[Sanchez]

Don't be arrogant. every country is unique. One thing Chinese has to learn from its past 4000 year history is: don't be arrogant.
one failure of USA in the past decade is too arrogant!


If any Chinese people think China is already a developed country, that is a stupid guy! plus, being humble is always good.


My fellow countryman, trying to teach someone a lesson is always bad. don't be arrogant! China has its own trouble. How do feel when China being condescending by Japan/Korea ten years ago? please do not repeat their mistakes. just watch and listen, it is basically not of our business, and both of them do not like us. We should try to consult when being asked.


The distrust between Vietnam and China is both geopolitical and historic. no solution. if you notice, Chinese government preferred their companies invest more in Cambodia and Thailand...
even Taiwan probably invest more in Vietnam. but I truly believe Vietnam will have a bright future.
good luck for them!


The 1979 war is because Vietnam invaded Cambodia before, and China stated very clearly. It is unacceptable for China to have a potential powerful nation in the southern without natural barrier, and Vietnam wanted to take over Laos and Cambodia at that time.
SCS is something we have to fight for while... no solution... and Vietnam does not hold all the good reasons for it.

The national interest between China and Vietnam is conflicting, and its geopolitical, that is not gonna change. plus, there is historical mistrust.

Weather you like it or not, China is there, Vietnam is nearby...no solution


I am not sure Pakistan, but I am quite the distrust between India and China is geopolitical, and I did not see a solution in horizon. Please just don't be kidding ourself. This is forum for truth, even partially, pretending is not good.
The same applies to Vietnam.
If you notice, China's government never encourage their companies goes to both countries. Because there is NO solution for both national interest conflictions, and we have to live with that.
BTW, I does not process hostility to both Indians and Vietnamese. It is just plain truth, no way to get around...


Dude, whether China can be a fully developed country or not, One fact you shold know, if China want to make Singapore life miserable, it is easy.
you notice the Seaport projects with Malaysia, right? that is an excellent strategic move just by commercial force. Moreover, 6 Malaysia ports now forms ally with 7 biggest China's ports.
This is only because China does not appreciate Singapore's position on SCS. so No matter how advanced Singapore is, it is a tiny country and the the countries around does NOT like Singapore that much.

It’s funny that you have so much to teach others. How long have you been to the US？

 

[Wen Ling]

It’s funny that you have so much to teach others. How long have you been to the US？

I do not want to offend any one.
I once worked in USA over 10 years, now mainly work in Shanghai. To our Chinese fellowmen, I just mean we have to remember where we were 10 years ago when Japan / Korean was also condescending on us. the world changes fast. You will never know what will happen on Indian and Vietnam. The confliction between them and China has no solution, fueling the inflames is not wise. China has its own big troubles.

 

[Jlaw]

I do not want to offend any one.
I once worked in USA over 10 years, now mainly work in Shanghai. To our Chinese fellowmen, I just mean we have to remember where we were in 10 years ago when Japan / Korean was also condescending on us. the world changes fast. You will never know what will happen on Indian and Vietnam. The confliction between them and China has no solution, fuel the inflames is not wise. China has its own big troubles.

China trouble miniscule compare to India.

 

[C130]

These two countries started reforming in similar years
but Vietnam is ahead of India

If I want to travel or work in one of these two countries, I will definitely choose vietnam coz it is clean, safe and non-chaos like India

because it's smaller country and Eastern Asians, but mostly because they are eastern Asians.

 

[terranMarine]

because it's smaller country and Eastern Asians, but mostly because they are eastern Asians.

I consider Viets South East Asians and most East Asians probably do

 

[C130]

I consider Viets South East Asians and most East Asians probably do

east, south east, close enough.