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That paper isn't even considered scientific by the REAL scientific community! =D
You are absolutely clueless about what you are talking. A Professor from MIT would not put his/her career at stake by publishing his/her work in a substandard journal(s). PLoS Biology had an impact factor of 13.5 in 2009 and after Nature, Science, and PNAS, it is fourth most frequently evaluated multi-disciplinary journal.
 
what was ur mami\'s age n what kind of abnormality....it may not be hereditary.....


my mami's age at that time was I think 29 or something (not sure) but there were couple of people abnormal on her side and cousin marriage was common...
Even though she did not belong to our family but still her child is abnormal..

My cousin cannot speak clearly and he is atleast 5 years behind his age.
You know they have a specific face (mangol kind)
Down syndrome..

May Allah Bless him!
 
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Probably because in half a million years humans evolved from fish to dino to monkey to man, if those genes could get us this far there is reasonable assurance that we can get by for another half a million yrs.
 
Prophet Muhammad [PBUH] worked for Khadijah right? And later they got married.

Why is it wrong to 'date' then? What's wrong if you like a co-worker/friend? Or if you date [Date is nothing but eating out or socializing together] them? I can understand if you are against Pre-marital sex, but what's with clubbing dating and promiscuity.

Oh Chachaa chup ke baith.

Prophet Muhammad SAW married with Hazrat Khadijah before the first revelation. I don't feel like giving a long lecture for you who will come up with another stupid question :angry:

Come back tomorrow
 
Probably because in half a million years humans evolved from fish to dino to monkey to man, if those genes could get us this far there is reasonable assurance that we can get by for another half a million yrs.


Very good topic!

Hey qsaark if you have time than kindly tell us about evolution. What do you think about it?

Religiously speaking it is not true!
^^ In my opinion
 
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Very good topic!

Hey qsaark if you have time than kindly tell us about evolution. What do you think about it?

Religiously speaking it is not true!
Evolution is proven by Quran. Human have evolved from humanoids, and humanoids from non-human primates.
 
Prophet Muhammad [PBUH] worked for Khadijah right? And later they got married.

Why is it wrong to 'date' then? What's wrong if you like a co-worker/friend? Or if you date [Date is nothing but eating out or socializing together] them? I can understand if you are against Pre-marital sex, but what's with clubbing dating and promiscuity.

Praise be to Allaah.
The reports of the seerah (Prophet’s biography) indicate that Khadeejah bint Khuwaylid (may Allaah be pleased with her) was a determined and intelligent woman, and she was also rich and had several kinds of trade. The men of her people were keen to marry her. She did not engage directly in trade herself, rather she used to employ men to work on her behalf.

News reached Khadeejah of the honest and trustworthy Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him); she heard a great deal about his honesty and trustworthiness, so she wanted to hire him to work for her and do trade on her behalf. She sent someone to him with an offer of work, and he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) agreed to that.

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) went out to do trade with the money of Khadeejah (may Allaah be pleased with her), and there was with him a slave of Khadeejah’s whose name was Maysarah. Maysarah saw the signs that happened to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) whilst travelling, and that amazed him, so he started to tell his mistress Khadeejah about everything that he had seen.

For example, when the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) came to the city of Busra in Syria, he stopped in the shade of a tree, and one of the monks said to Maysarah, “No one ever stops under the shade of this tree but a Prophet.” And Maysarah used to see two angels shading the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) when the heat of the sun grew too intense.

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) came back from that journey, and he had made far more money in trading for Khadeejah than anyone else ever had before. Khadeejah was impressed with the personality of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and she wanted to marry him. So she sent her friend Nafeesah bint Maniyyah to tell the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) about that. He (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) agreed, and the marriage of Khadeejah (may Allaah be pleased with her) was arranged by her father Khuwaylid, according to the most sound reports, as mentioned by the scholars of seerah.

From the above it is clear that there was no inappropriate relationship between the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and Khadeejah (nay Allaah be pleased with her) before he married her.

The morals of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) were sound and he lived a virtuous life; Allah protected him from everything that may have detracted from his message or that was contrary to modesty and chivalry.

If such a thing has happened – but he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is far above such a thing – the kuffaar of Quraysh would not have kept quiet about it. They would have regarded it as a great source of shame and they would have used it as a means to reject his religion and tarnish his reputation. But nothing of the sort happened, rather before his Prophethood they used to call him al-Saadiq (the honest one) and al-Ameen (the trustworthy one). They did not cast aspersions upon his chastity at all.

You should also note that the Prophets (peace be upon them) – all the Prophets – are the most perfect and best of human beings. Allaah does not choose anyone to convey His Message except those who are fit for it. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Allaah knows best with whom to place His Message”
[al-An’aam 6:124]

Ibn Katheer (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

This means, He knows best where to place His Message and who is most fit for that among His creation. This is like the verse (interpretation of the meaning):

“And they say: ‘Why is not this Qur’aan sent down to some great man of the two towns (Makkah and Taa’if)?’ Is it they who would portion out the Mercy of your Lord?”
[al-Zukhruf 43:31]
What they meant was, If this Qur’aan had been sent down to some great man or leading figure who was of high status in their eyes, “of the two towns” i.e., Makkah and al-Taa’if. That was because they – may Allaah curse them – despised the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) out of hatred and envy, and stubbornness and pride, as Allaah tells us (interpretation of the meaning):

“And when those who disbelieved (in the Oneness of Allaah) see you (O Muhammad), they take you not except for mockery (saying): “Is this the one who talks (badly) about your gods?” While they disbelieve at the mention of the Most Gracious (Allaah)”

[al-Anbiya’ 21:36]

And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And when they see you (O Muhammad), they treat you only in mockery (saying): ‘Is this the one whom Allaah has sent as a Messenger’”

[al-Furqaan 25:41]

“And indeed (many) Messengers before you were mocked at, but their scoffers were surrounded by the very thing that they used to mock at”

[al-An’aam 6:10]

This happened even though they were aware of his virtue, nobility and lineage, and the purity of his house and upbringing. Before the Revelation came to him, they used to refer to him amongst themselves as al-Ameen (the trustworthy one). The leader of the kuffaar, Abu Sufyaan, admitted that when Heraclius, the ruler of Rome, asked him. “What is his lineage amongst you?” He said, “He is of noble descent.” He asked,”Did you ever accuse him of lying before he said what he said?” He said, “No.” In this lengthy conversation the Roman ruler took the pure attributes of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) as evidence that his Prophethood was real and that what he said was true.

The scholars (may Allaah have mercy on them) stated that the Prophets were protected from committing major sins and every kind of sin which points to the base character of the one who does it.

Ibn al-‘Arabi said: “Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was protected by his Lord against committing any sin, whether during the Jaahiliyyah or afterwards, as an honour from Allaah, so that he might occupy a great and lofty status. So throughout his life he was protected from sin.

Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

You should note that the scholars differed as to whether the Prophets could commit sin. Al-Qaadi summed up the main points of this issue when he said… with regard to sin, there is no dispute that the Prophets were protected from committing any major sin. Similarly there was no dispute that they were protected from minor sins which reflect badly on a person and lower his status and damage his character. But they differed as to whether the Prophets could commit other kinds of minor sins. Most of the fuqaha’, hadeeth scholars and scholars of kalaam among the earlier and later generations are of the view that they could have committed such minor sins. They quote as evidence the apparent meaning of the Qur’aan and reports. Some of the fuqaha’ and scholars of kalaam among our imams are of the view that they were protected from minor sins just as they were protected from major sins, and that the position of Prophethood means that the Prophets were far above committing sin or deliberately going against Allaah’s commands. They commented on verses and ahaadeeth which refer to mistakes on the part of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and they interpreted them in a manner other than the apparent meaning. They said that these verses and ahaadeeth refer to incidents where a Prophet based his actions on his own reasoning, or he did what he did out of forgetfulness, or with permission from Allaah in cases where he feared that he would be blamed for it, or there might be mistakes that they made before Prophethood. This last view is the one which is correct. These are the words of al-Qaadi ‘Iyaad, may Allaah have mercy on him. And Allaah knows best.

Out of respect towards the position of Prophethood, the scholars said that whoever slanders any of the Prophets is a kaafir and must be executed.

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said in Majma’ al-Fataawa, 35/123

The imams are agreed that whoever insults a Prophet should be executed. And an accusation of adultery is the worst kind of insult. See also Question no. 22809.

Ibn Qudaamah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in al-Mughni, 12/405

Whoever slanders the mother of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is to be executed even if he repents, whether he is a Muslim or a kaafir, but if he repents then his repentance will be accepted by Allaah, but the sentence of execution will not be waived because of his repentance, because of the rights of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

Then he said:

The ruling concerning slander of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is like the ruling on slander of his mother, because slandering his mother brings a sentence of execution because it is a slander against the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and against his lineage.

And Allaah knows best.

See Zaad al-Ma’aad, 1/77; al-Seerah al-Nabawiyyah by Dr. Akram Diya’ al-‘Umari, 1/112-114; al-Seerah al-Nabawiyyah by Dr. Mahdi Rizq-Allaah, p. 132; Af’aal al-Rasool (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) by Dr. Muhammad Sulaymaan al-Ashqar, 1/139-165; Ahkaam al-Qur’aan al-Kareem, 3/576.
 
Evolution is proven by Quran. Human have evolved from humanoids, and humanoids from non-human primates.

Kindly prove your claim :no::no::no:

I don't agree with that

There are different kind of evolutions some of them are acceptable while others are not. If you mean Evolution of Darwin's i don't agree with that.

Please prove it
 
Evolution is proven by Quran. Human have evolved from humanoids, and humanoids from non-human primates.

There are people who say that long ago man was a monkey and he evolved. Is this true? Is there any evidence?.


Praise be to Allaah.

This view is not correct, and the evidence for that is that Allaah has described in the Qur’aan the stages of the creation of Adam. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Verily, the likeness of ‘Eesa (Jesus) before Allaah is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then (He) said to him: ‘Be!’ — and he was”

[Aal ‘Imraan 3:59]

This dust was moistened until it became sticky mud or clay that stuck to the hands. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And indeed We created man (Adam) out of an extract of clay (water and earth)”

[al-Mu’minoon 23:12]

“Verily, We created them of a sticky clay”

[al-Saaffaat 37:12]

Then it became dried (sounding) clay of altered mud. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And indeed, We created man from dried (sounding) clay of altered mud”
[al-Hijr 15:26]

Then when it dried it became sounding clay like the clay of pottery. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“He created man (Adam) from sounding clay like the clay of pottery”

[al-Rahmaan 55:14]

Then Allaah moulded it into the form that He wanted and breathed into him (his) soul created by Him. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“(Remember) when your Lord said to the angels: ‘Truly, I am going to create man from clay’.

So when I have fashioned him and breathed into him (his) soul created by Me, then you fall down prostrate to him”

[Saad 38:71-72]

These are the stages through which the creation of Adam passed according to the Qur’aan. As for the stages of creation which the progeny of Adam pass through, Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And indeed We created man (Adam) out of an extract of clay (water and earth).

Thereafter We made him (the offspring of Adam) as a Nutfah (mixed drops of the male and female sexual discharge and lodged it) in a safe lodging (womb of the woman).

Then We made the Nutfah into a clot (a piece of thick coagulated blood), then We made the clot into a little lump of flesh, then We made out of that little lump of flesh bones, then We clothed the bones with flesh, and then We brought it forth as another creation. So Blessed is Allaah, the Best of creators”
[al-Mu’minoon 23:12-14]

With regard to the wife of Adam – Hawwa’ (Eve) – Allaah tells us that He created her from him, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

“O mankind! Be dutiful to your Lord, Who created you from a single person (Adam), and from him (Adam) He created his wife [Hawwa (Eve)], and from them both He created many men and women”

[al-Nisa’ 4:1]
 
What do you mean?
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I knew this would be your reaction; many Muslims do not believe in Evolution and when told that even Quran says so, they would go bezerk. The truth is, evolution is proven from Quran as well as hadith. The story is told in bits and pieces but when you assemble them, the complete picture emerges. Right now I do not have enough time as I would have to go back and find the proper verses for reference, but I'll compile an essay and post here maybe during weekend. Just remember the conversation between Allah and the angels when Allah told the angels about his intentions of 'creating' a human being and send him in the earth. The angels replied, O Allah, he will cause trouble in the earth. Now if Adam was the first human being, how the angels knew that a human would cause trouble in the earth? Because there were human (or humanoids) in the earth before Adam. Adam was the first human who actually had the spirit of Allah as Quran talks about that event. It is interesting story but I'll tell more in a few days.
 
I knew this would be your reaction; many Muslims do not believe in Evolution and when told that even Quran says so, they would go bezerk. The truth is, evolution is proven from Quran as well as hadith. The story is told in bits and pieces but when you assemble them, the complete picture emerges. Right now I do not have enough time as I would have to go back and find the proper verses for reference, but I'll compile an essay and post here maybe during weekend. Just remember the conversation between Allah and the angels when Allah told the angels about his intentions of 'creating' a human being and send him in the earth. The angels replied, O Allah, he will cause trouble in the earth. Now if Adam was the first human being, how the angels knew that a human would cause trouble in the earth? Because there were human (or humanoids) in the earth before Adam. Adam was the first human who actually had the spirit of Allah as Quran talks about that event. It is interesting story but I'll tell more in a few days.


Now this is what I call Tasawuf!
I know that Adam was not the first one!
According to my theory which is little bit different..
I think that Adam was among other people who were sent to Earth at the same time.
It will be really interesting to talk to you in person someday!
;)

I will like to discuss the role of Satan with you also.
Satan ka inkar bhi Allah ki marzi thi...
;)

I can further prove but not in this world!
There will another living being after we all (human beings) go where we are coming from..

I am in charge of few things
^^ Now this might sound crazy...
:smitten:
 
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I knew this would be your reaction; many Muslims do not believe in Evolution and when told that even Quran says so, they would go bezerk. The truth is, evolution is proven from Quran as well as hadith. The story is told in bits and pieces but when you assemble them, the complete picture emerges. Right now I do not have enough time as I would have to go back and find the proper verses for reference, but I'll compile an essay and post here maybe during weekend. Just remember the conversation between Allah and the angels when Allah told the angels about his intentions of 'creating' a human being and send him in the earth. The angels replied, O Allah, he will cause trouble in the earth. Now if Adam was the first human being, how the angels knew that a human would cause trouble in the earth? Because there were human (or humanoids) in the earth before Adam. Adam was the first human who actually had the spirit of Allah as Quran talks about that event. It is interesting story but I'll tell more in a few days.


DID YOU EVEN READ WHAT I POSTED BEFORE.I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IT.WELL MAYBE YOU SHOULD READ THIS.



You have discovered pages at a particular site, for which you have asked a proper rejoinder, that indeed show hostility towards the religion of Islam, ridicule the personality of our Prophet (peace be upon him) and carry false accusations and distortions. However, the matter is as said by Allaah (azza wa jall) (interpretation of the meaning):

"They want to blow out, with their mouths, the light that Allah has sent, but Allah has decided to bring this light to a completion even though the disbelievers do not like it" (Al-Tawbah 9:32)

I do not see any point in announcing the URL of their page in any other Islamic page which Muslims visit frequently. We should not propagate its existence or invite people to it even by indirect means. What I see as important is that some capable persons should send the proper translation of meanings of the following verse of Qur'an and other such verses to them:

"Those who disbelieve spend their wealth in distracting people from the right path, will continue to spend until it becomes a source of regret for them and then they will be overcome. And the disbelievers will be resurrected towards Hellfire so that Allaah may distinguish the evil from the righteous"

It should be enough to send them this and similar verses of Quran in rejoinder and to raise their anger. Doing so will be an act of worship and nearness to Allaah as Allaah (azza wa jall) has informed about the true believers (interpretation of the meaning):

"They suffer neither thirst nor fatigue, nor hunger in the Cause of Allaah, nor they take any step to raise the anger of disbelievers nor inflict any injury upon an enemy but is written to their credit as a deed of righteousness. Surely, Allaah wastes not the reward of the righteous"(At-Tawbah, 9:120
 
I will like to discuss the role of Satan with you also.
Satan ka inkar bhi Allah ki marzi thi...
;)
Yes, if you believe that nothing happens without the permission of Allah, than what Iblees did was also from Allah. The soofia do not consider Iblees as a cursed species, but a true lover (aashiq saadiq) of Allah who refused to bow to anyone else, but Allah.
 
Yes, if you believe that nothing happens without the permission of Allah, than what Iblees did was also from Allah. The soofia do not consider Iblees as a cursed species, but a true lover (aashiq saadiq) of Allah who refused to bow to anyone else, but Allah.

Yes, I consider Satan an ashiq of Allah...

If you are interested we can talk somewhere else because here people will call us Kafirs...
I have met few "x" (not Sufias) in person!

You can understand...

I am one of "them"....
I dont like to blow my cover...
and I am not blowing as no one here knows me personally..
I am just a random forum guy for them..
 

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