Why Are Chechens Fighting On Both Sides In Ukraine?

[MH.Yang]

Because these Chechens are a group of mercenaries, they can fight for anyone.

 

[Foinikas]

I disagree my friend because it's just not as simple as saying jihadi and anti jihadi.

I think it started with the occupation of the Caucasus mountains area by the Russians.

Stalis genocide of the people of that area, and then Russians wars from 1991 to 1996

I was also going to ask u about ur grasp of the meaning of the word Jihad, but the post above me already took care of that.

It did start like that. But it later fanatics got involved and started terror attacks and brutal killings. Of course in Chechnya there were pro-Russian and anti-Russian factions already.

Nope but then again I’m not a facist Islamaphobe to distort a word to suit my racist narrative .


jihad, (Arabic: “struggle” or “effort”) also spelled jehad, in Islam, a meritorious struggle or effort. The exact meaning of the term jihāddepends on context; it has often been erroneously translated in the West as “holy war.” Jihad, particularly in the religious and ethical realm, primarily refers to the human struggle to promote what is right and to prevent what is wrong.

And do you know the meaning of fascism that you call me a fascist and an Islamophobe?

Now do you understand the meaning of "jihadi" in modern terms?

Not mujahed,but jihadi. Not muslim,but Islamist. Do you understand the difference? Or are you happy pretending to be a smartass who corrects the "evil kuffar" in this forum?

 

[Aslan]

It did start like that. But it later fanatics got involved and started terror attacks and brutal killings. Of course in Chechnya there were pro-Russian and anti-Russian factions already.

War is a dirty business, and radicalism is the side effect.

 

[Tornado23]

I know what it means. But do you know the modern meaning of "jihadi"?

There is no such thing as a modern meaning. A 'modern meaning' is just a term used to twist a words meaning into another one to suit their narrative.

For example, as you said. Jihad.

Jihad true and only meaning means to struggle. Its not a holy war which people tend to think it is.

Jihadi is someone that is struggling i guess.

The modern meaning that people are used to regarding jihad and jihadi, is a holy war, and someone fighting that war. Mostly associated with terrorists. This was done by the medias manipulating the narrative against Arab nations, to ultimately demonise them and get the people on their side to support their nation going to war against said Arab nation (started en masse with Iraq, and later used for the surrounding Arab nations).

So @Foinikas. You seem educated, you seem like a reasonable person. Please dont use the term Jihad or Jihadi in the context of war and only war.

 

[Foinikas]

Jihadi is someone that is struggling i guess.

Jihadi man,I didn't say mujahed. When I use the word "salafi" people go nuts. When I use the word "islamist" people say there's nothing wrong with that. When I use the word "terrorist" they say "muslims are not terrorists". What the heck do you want me to say? It's like your hiding behind your fingers. You know what I mean. Do you think I like it when a gazillion people here use the word "Crusaders" to describe Europeans and Americans?

You know what I mean,don't pretend to not understand.

Jihadi as in those barbaric radicals who go on tours to muslim countries at war,to fight their "jihad",but actually promoting wahabi ideals and strict interpretation of Islam.

 

[Tornado23]

Jihadi man,I didn't say mujahed. When I use the word "salafi" people go nuts. When I use the word "islamist" people say there's nothing wrong with that. When I use the word "terrorist" they say "muslims are not terrorists". What the heck do you want me to say? It's like your hiding behind your fingers. You know what I mean. Do you think I like it when a gazillion people here use the word "Crusaders" to describe Europeans and Americans?

You know what I mean,don't pretend to not understand.

Jihadi as in those barbaric radicals who go on tours to muslim countries at war,to fight their "jihad",but actually promoting wahabi ideals and strict interpretation of Islam.

Re read what i wrote.

Jihad simply means to struggle. A jihadi would mean someone who is struggling. Its meaning has nothing to do with war

 

[Foinikas]

Re read what i wrote.

Jihad simply means to struggle. A jihadi would mean someone who is struggling. Its meaning has nothing to do with war

But it's used in the English speaking world as slang for extremist islamic fighter.

You know it,come on. You're a smart person.

 

[Tornado23]

But it's used in the English speaking world as slang for extremist islamic fighter.

You know it,come on. You're a smart person.

Faggot is also used in the english speaking world to insult homosexuals, but its actual meaning is a bundle of firewood.

Be wary of manipulation. Just because it is slang doesnt mean its true.

 

[Foinikas]

Faggot is also used in the english speaking world to insult homosexuals, but its actual meaning is a bundle of firewood.

Be wary of manipulation. Just because it is slang doesnt mean its true.

How do you want me to call all those barbarians then? Radicals? Extremists? Islamists? Someone always gets offended.

 

[Tornado23]

How do you want me to call all those barbarians then? Radicals? Extremists? Islamists? Someone always gets offended.

Easy. You can call them many things

Terrorists
Scum
Cowards
And a lot of obscenities that will get me banned

 

[Azadkashmir]

apparently zelensky got info from inside kgb about chechems sent to kill him i suppose that wat got them killed. putin going for two birds one stone i dont know. plus the school massacre by chechens terrorist is russia 9/11 that how putin propelled himself as hard guy for russia. but it was false flag. they did it again but civilian reported it they give them a tv set to shut them up. at moment i dont have reference.

 

[Iñigo]

The first thing to understand

Nazis hated the Yiddish people
Neo-Nazis hates Muslims

Second

At the beginning of the 20th century the most influential ethno-nationalism-fascism was German.

At the beginning of the 21st century, the most influential ethno-nationalism-fascism is Biblical-Israeli.

So

The striking thing about this entanglement is that ... The terror suffered by the Ukrainians at the hands of the Bolsheviks and the terror suffered by the Yiddish people at the hands of the Ukrainians ... Now it has become the nostalgics of the 14th Waffen SS that form the hard core of the Ukrainian regime of an oligarch grandson of the Yiddish people who hired an actor and comedian supported by the US State Department.

 

[Aslan]

Jihadi man,I didn't say mujahed. When I use the word "salafi" people go nuts. When I use the word "islamist" people say there's nothing wrong with that. When I use the word "terrorist" they say "muslims are not terrorists". What the heck do you want me to say? It's like your hiding behind your fingers. You know what I mean. Do you think I like it when a gazillion people here use the word "Crusaders" to describe Europeans and Americans?

You know what I mean,don't pretend to not understand.

Jihadi as in those barbaric radicals who go on tours to muslim countries at war,to fight their "jihad",but actually promoting wahabi ideals and strict interpretation of Islam.

The barbaric radicals going on tours of Muslim countries to fight their jihad.

Whatd about the civilized white man volunteer to fight for another white man's country because he don't like this war.

This basically is the problem, and u don't see it.

The wars we like and the wars we don't. And based on that we allow opposition, and we don't.

If the war is instigated by the USA then how dare u oppose it, and fight against us u terrorists.

But when the so called civilized world don't like the blue eyed blood man under duress then mayday mayday

 

[GumNaam]

Because there's pro-Russian Chechens and anti-Russian Chechens,mostly anti-Kadyrov and jihadi ones.

so these so called and self proclaimed "jihadis" will take sides with a lgbtq friendly ukraine and will oppose a lgbtq hostile Russia? munafiqat at a while new level!

 

[Foinikas]

The barbaric radicals going on tours of Muslim countries to fight their jihad.

Whatd about the civilized white man volunteer to fight for another white man's country because he don't like this war.

This basically is the problem, and u don't see it.

The wars we like and the wars we don't. And based on that we allow opposition, and we don't.

If the war is instigated by the USA then how dare u oppose it, and fight against us u terrorists.

But when the so called civilized world don't like the blue eyed blood man under duress then mayday mayday

I'm talking about fanatics and terrorists and you talk to me about the white man and USA. These same terrorists have killed thousands in Pakistan in the name of their "jihad". Do you see what I'm talking about now?